On Dec 12, 2007 8:45 PM, shiv sastry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wednesday 12 Dec 2007 1:16 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > With the unbridled faith in science, technology and economic growth that
> > seems to have gripped the middle classes, some critical reflection on
> > India's current development trajectory is in order -- which is precisely
> > what sociologists (and others) are supposed to be good at. Yet they do not
> > often enough air their views, or their knowledge, in public.
>
> Carol your study was itself an eye opener. You showed how the IT boom was
> restricted largely to the forward castes. You were bold enough to mention the
> unmentionable "R" word that can earn you a fatwa  -"reservation!!
>
> As you pointed out (and as was mentioned in an article that I Googled) Engilsh
> rules the airwaves. People who use English in India get heard the most and
> their views are echoed and amplified by the dominance of the anglosphere
> courtesy the US of A.
>
> I have often felt (with no proof whatsoever) that the old (pre-independence)
> cliches about India, many of them negative, were based on interaction of
> foreign visitors and invaders with the upper castes of India. If you exclude
> ancient Indian literature, the narratives of India that exist are the
> narratives of the upper castes of India and their attitudes and habits. You
> will not find, for example, a narrative of a "chamar" or a "bhangi", or even
> a "mochi" - a word that caused recent uproar for being used in a Bollywood
> song. I have no way of verifying this theory- there is no independent
> corroboration that I know of.
>
> But if that is true, it only adds on to another possible anomaly that can be
> verified if someone bothers to do that.
>
> I spoke of the way the views of the Indian anglophones are propagated and
> amplified. But a question that has always puzzled me is whether anyone has
> ever done a caste distribution study of Indian immigrants in the US. I
> suspect, without proof, that they are likely to be predominantly Indians of
> forward caste descent. If there is a correlation between Indian
> English-speakers and forward caste, we may be hearing a narrative of India
> that excludes the 95% of Indians by virtue of their lack of English that also
> correlates with a complete absence of serious information about the state of
> lower castes, non English speakers and the poor.
>
> In other words, there may be a complete dysjunction between what is said and
> discussed in the English media and issues on the ground in India. I would
> consider this a serious social anomaly.
>
> shiv

That was very thought-provoking and I am going to mull that
over...this perspective had never occurred to me before...who the
chroniclers were, and are...

Ironic that English has to be the link language and is yet a sharp
divider of the "haves" and "have-nots", whether it is a bank balance
or education or access to information that the "haves" have. But I
suppose that is true everywhere in the English-speaking world?

Deepa.






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