I agree but from a different perspective – the whole concept of truth vs. an 
operational and tentative understanding.

 

When I wrote about VoIP (https://rmf.vc/VoIPInflection), the interesting 
question is where does the meaning of “hello” come from since the packets being 
exchanged and meaningless out of context and none are necessary – the word 
itself does not exist in the “between” yet is being communicated. (There are 
similar results in psycholinguistics and in the tokenization of LLMs).

 

This is the kind of question that doesn’t fit into a simple falsifiability 
model, nor does religion seem to have a way to deal with it, yet it is 
fundamental to our current reality. I’d appreciate pointers to where these kind 
of questions are being asked and addressed.

 

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This atheist firmly rejects the notion that atheism is “another religion” or at 
some level is conceptually equivalent to it. There are two quite distinct modes 
of perceiving the universe - one lens rests on immutable eternal truths, and 
the other on beliefs which are consciously contingent and provisional. I think 
they really have very little in common. 

 

 

On Jan 15, 2024 at 8:24:20 PM, Alok Singh via Silklist 
<silklist@lists.digeratus.in <mailto:silklist@lists.digeratus.in> > wrote:

On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 8:47 AM Tomasz Rola via Silklist
<silklist@lists.digeratus.in <mailto:silklist@lists.digeratus.in> > wrote:



So, for me, there is no need for "religion for atheist" because

atheists are religious already...


I too see no tension between atheism and religiosity. It has been said
that the ability to keep mutually incompatible concepts in one mind at
a time is human. Though I feel that when I can work with seemingly
incompatible concepts in my mind, I'd found the commonality between
the ideas.

The only truly incompatible ideas seem to be opinions.
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