I think nature and specifically bird-watching is a good religion to adopt--
it has been for me.  But I love the art and beauty surrounding all old
faiths.


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> From: Peter Griffin <peter.grif...@gmail.com>
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> Many years ago, when I worked with Forbes India, as part of an anniversary
> special, we commissioned an essay by Alain de Botton on a ?religion for
> atheists? (he has of course written and spoken about this extensively
> elsewhere).
>
> https://www.forbesindia.com/article/ideas-to-change-the-world/alain-de-botton-a-religion-for-atheists/13532/1
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> I just came across this.
>
> https://theconversation.com/church-without-god-how-secular-congregations-fill-a-need-for-some-nonreligious-americans-215749
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> I resonate with the thought. After beginning my walk away from Christianity
> in my teens and twenties, and all religion some time after, there have been
> many times I missed some of the peripheral things about religion. The sense
> of community, the places of contemplative silence, the art, the music.
>
> What do you folk ? believers or otherwise ? think?
>
> ~ peter
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> From: Surabhi Tomar <surabhi.to...@gmail.com>
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> As a fellow atheist, I understand the need- A place to have like minded
> people.
>
> Hinduism has had many groups over thousands of years that are outrightly
> atheist- if anti-god is what you are seeking. Jainism and Buddhism are
> purely agnostic if just a philosophical lifestyle is what you are seeking.
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> On Sun, 14 Jan, 2024, 2:04 pm Peter Griffin via Silklist, <
> silklist@lists.digeratus.in> wrote:
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> > Many years ago, when I worked with Forbes India, as part of an
> anniversary
> > special, we commissioned an essay by Alain de Botton on a ?religion for
> > atheists? (he has of course written and spoken about this extensively
> > elsewhere).
> >
> https://www.forbesindia.com/article/ideas-to-change-the-world/alain-de-botton-a-religion-for-atheists/13532/1
> >
> > I just came across this.
> >
> https://theconversation.com/church-without-god-how-secular-congregations-fill-a-need-for-some-nonreligious-americans-215749
> >
> > I resonate with the thought. After beginning my walk away from
> > Christianity in my teens and twenties, and all religion some time after,
> > there have been many times I missed some of the peripheral things about
> > religion. The sense of community, the places of contemplative silence,
> the
> > art, the music.
> >
> > What do you folk ? believers or otherwise ? think?
> >
> > ~ peter
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> From: Venkatesh Hariharan <ven...@gmail.com>
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> On Sun, Jan 14, 2024 at 2:04?PM Peter Griffin via Silklist <
> silklist@lists.digeratus.in> wrote:
>
> > Many years ago, when I worked with Forbes India, as part of an
> anniversary
> > special, we commissioned an essay by Alain de Botton on a ?religion for
> > atheists? (he has of course written and spoken about this extensively
> > elsewhere).
> >
> https://www.forbesindia.com/article/ideas-to-change-the-world/alain-de-botton-a-religion-for-atheists/13532/1
> >
> > I just came across this.
> >
> https://theconversation.com/church-without-god-how-secular-congregations-fill-a-need-for-some-nonreligious-americans-215749
> >
> > I resonate with the thought. After beginning my walk away from
> > Christianity in my teens and twenties, and all religion some time after,
> > there have been many times I missed some of the peripheral things about
> > religion. The sense of community, the places of contemplative silence,
> the
> > art, the music.
> >
> > What do you folk ? believers or otherwise ? think?
> >
> > ~ peter
> >
> > Having grown up with an atheist father, I find myself more spiritual than
> religious. Personally, I have never felt the need for a "religion for
> atheists." I have dabbled in Osho's meditations at the resort in Pune,
> Vipassana meditation at Igatpuri and have liked them all but don't follow
> them systematically. Some of my friends are similar in that they are more
> religious than spiritual. I have often taken breaks with them to an ashram
> in Bhaja, near Lonavala in Maharashtra. Though the ashram is Buddhist, they
> do not impose their practices on us when we visit and our trips involve
> sitting quietly in the meditation hall, bird watching, trekking, admiring
> the flora and fauna, cooking and eating the locally grown produce, cleaning
> the ashram, and long conversations. I find that fulfilling in a wonderful
> way.
>
> Venky
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> From: Chris Kantarjiev <c...@dimebank.com>
> To: Intelligent conversation <silklist@lists.digeratus.in>
> Subject: Re: [Silk] A religion for atheists
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> I spend time in the mountains, preferably skiing. Sometimes alone,
> sometimes with other beings. That's enough for me.
>
> On January 14, 2024 1:36:57 AM PST, Venkatesh Hariharan via Silklist <
> silklist@lists.digeratus.in> wrote:
> >On Sun, Jan 14, 2024 at 2:04?PM Peter Griffin via Silklist <
> >silklist@lists.digeratus.in> wrote:
> >
> >> Many years ago, when I worked with Forbes India, as part of an
> anniversary
> >> special, we commissioned an essay by Alain de Botton on a ?religion for
> >> atheists? (he has of course written and spoken about this extensively
> >> elsewhere).
> >>
> https://www.forbesindia.com/article/ideas-to-change-the-world/alain-de-botton-a-religion-for-atheists/13532/1
> >>
> >> I just came across this.
> >>
> https://theconversation.com/church-without-god-how-secular-congregations-fill-a-need-for-some-nonreligious-americans-215749
> >>
> >> I resonate with the thought. After beginning my walk away from
> >> Christianity in my teens and twenties, and all religion some time after,
> >> there have been many times I missed some of the peripheral things about
> >> religion. The sense of community, the places of contemplative silence,
> the
> >> art, the music.
> >>
> >> What do you folk ? believers or otherwise ? think?
> >>
> >> ~ peter
> >>
> >> Having grown up with an atheist father, I find myself more spiritual
> than
> >religious. Personally, I have never felt the need for a "religion for
> >atheists." I have dabbled in Osho's meditations at the resort in Pune,
> >Vipassana meditation at Igatpuri and have liked them all but don't follow
> >them systematically. Some of my friends are similar in that they are more
> >religious than spiritual. I have often taken breaks with them to an ashram
> >in Bhaja, near Lonavala in Maharashtra. Though the ashram is Buddhist,
> they
> >do not impose their practices on us when we visit and our trips involve
> >sitting quietly in the meditation hall, bird watching, trekking, admiring
> >the flora and fauna, cooking and eating the locally grown produce,
> cleaning
> >the ashram, and long conversations. I find that fulfilling in a wonderful
> >way.
> >
> >Venky
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