On Mon, 10 Jul 2023 12:27:44 GMT, Thomas Stuefe <stu...@openjdk.org> wrote:
>> src/hotspot/share/runtime/trimNativeHeap.cpp line 106: >> >>> 104: ml.wait(wait_ms); >>> 105: } else if (at_or_nearing_safepoint()) { >>> 106: ml.wait(safepoint_poll_ms); >> >> OK, so here is a little problem. Suppose I want to run trims very often, >> like every 10ms. This loop would stall for 250ms when safepoint is detected, >> which throws off this guarantee. Can we instead go and sleep for >> `TrimNativeHeapInterval`? AFAICs, this plays nicely with heuristic guidance >> (short intervals -> more interference), and it would best-effort stall for >> twice the interval when safepoint interjects. > > But then we have a problem for larger trim intervals. Loosing one or multiple > trim attempts because a safepoint happened to happen hurts if the interval is > e.g. 5 minutes. > > We could either wait for `MIN2(TrimNativeHeapInterval, safepoint_poll_ms)`. > > Or, at the cost of one Mutex grab per safepoint, I could do a `notify_all()` > at the end of a safepoint. Yes, waiting for `MIN2(TNHI, <reasonable-higher-limit>)` would be my preference. Not sure how 250ms was chosen, probably to be slightly above `MaxGCPauseMillis`? Should document the reasoning a bit. Let's not grab more mutexes during safepoint. This is opportunistic feature, we should not risk deadlock/longer safepoints. ------------- PR Review Comment: https://git.openjdk.org/jdk/pull/14781#discussion_r1258282439