Hi Chris,

Yes we are aware of the issue and there are two open issues tracking this, one for ML-KEM and one for ML-DSA:

https://bugs.openjdk.org/browse/JDK-8347938
https://bugs.openjdk.org/browse/JDK-8347941

Stay tuned for further progress on resolving these issues.

--Sean

On 1/30/25 12:59 PM, Chris Vest wrote:
Hi,

I downloaded JDK 24 EA to play with the new ML-DSA features, and noticed that the `PrivateKey.getEncoded()` produces the expanded-form private key format.
However, the industry is aligning behind the seed-form. [1]
For instance, BoringSSL removed[2] support for parsing expanded-form private keys, and plans on adding support for reading seed-form private keys instead.

The JDK 24 EA throws away the seed after generating the private keys, so in order to produce seed-form PEMs, I find myself wrapping the `SecureRandom` to capture it, and then wrapping the `PrivateKey` to override the `getEncoded`, both of which are uncomfortable looking hacks.

It'd be much preferred if the `PrivateKey.getEncoded` produced the seed- form encoding directly. It looks like the JDK is already perfectly happy to use private keys that do that, at least in the testing I did.

Thanks,
Chris

[1]: https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-lamps-dilithium- certificates-06.html#name-private-key-format <https://www.ietf.org/ archive/id/draft-ietf-lamps-dilithium-certificates-06.html#name-private- key-format> [2]: https://boringssl.googlesource.com/boringssl/ +/92a7368bad899b3c81fb99feff33515ee7eb8bb5 <https:// boringssl.googlesource.com/boringssl/ +/92a7368bad899b3c81fb99feff33515ee7eb8bb5>

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