[zfs-discuss] ZFS

2011-09-13 Thread cephas maposah
hello team i have an issue with my ZFS system, i have 5 file systems and i need to take a daily backup of these onto tape. how best do you think i should do these? the smallest filesystem is about 50GB here is what i have been doing i take snapshots of the 5 file systems, i zfs send these into a

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS

2011-09-13 Thread Peter Tribble
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 9:48 AM, cephas maposah wrote: > hello team > i have an issue with my ZFS system, i have 5 file systems and i need to take > a daily backup of these onto tape. how best do you think i should do these? > the smallest filesystem is about 50GB > here is what i have been doing

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS

2011-09-13 Thread Ian Collins
On 09/13/11 09:00 PM, Peter Tribble wrote: On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 9:48 AM, cephas maposah wrote: hello team i have an issue with my ZFS system, i have 5 file systems and i need to take a daily backup of these onto tape. how best do you think i should do these? the smallest filesystem is about

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS

2011-09-13 Thread cephas maposah
i do send the tapes offline. The idea of sending onto another system seems an excellent idea but i would still need to send them to tape. if i tar or dump the replicated filesystems this will chew up a lot of space since my filesystems are almost 900GB in total On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Ia

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS

2011-09-13 Thread Fajar A. Nugraha
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 3:48 PM, cephas maposah wrote: > hello team > i have an issue with my ZFS system, i have 5 file systems and i need to take > a daily backup of these onto tape. how best do you think i should do these? > the smallest filesystem is about 50GB It depends. You can backup the

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS

2011-09-13 Thread Fajar A. Nugraha
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 4:37 PM, Fajar A. Nugraha wrote: >> here is what i have been doing i take snapshots of the 5 file systems, i zfs >> send these into a directory gzip the the files and then tar them onto tape. >> this takes a considerable amount of time. >> my question is there a faster and

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS

2011-09-13 Thread Ian Collins
On 09/13/11 09:20 PM, cephas maposah wrote: On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Ian Collins > wrote: On 09/13/11 09:00 PM, Peter Tribble wrote: On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 9:48 AM, cephas maposahmailto:mapo...@gmail.com>> wrote: hello team

Re: [zfs-discuss] aclmode gone in S10u10?

2011-09-13 Thread Paul Kraus
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 8:50 PM, Paul B. Henson wrote: > I recently saw a message posted to the sunmanagers list complaining > about installing a kernel patch and suddenly having his ACL's disappear > completely whenever a chmod occurred. I replied and asked him to check > if the aclmode attribute

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS

2011-09-13 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
> From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- > boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of cephas maposah > > here is what i have been doing i take snapshots of the 5 file systems, i zfs > send these into a directory gzip the the files and then tar them onto tape. > this takes a cons

Re: [zfs-discuss] aclmode gone in S10u10?

2011-09-13 Thread Peter Tribble
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 1:50 AM, Paul B. Henson wrote: > I recently saw a message posted to the sunmanagers list complaining > about installing a kernel patch and suddenly having his ACL's disappear > completely whenever a chmod occurred. I replied and asked him to check > if the aclmode attribute

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS

2011-09-13 Thread Paul Kraus
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 5:00 AM, Peter Tribble wrote: > Personally, I use zfs send and zfs receive to replicate the data to > a second system, and then simply tar the replicated file system > to tape. That way I'm not dependent on zfs to get the data back > (and can get individual files/directori

Re: [zfs-discuss] aclmode gone in S10u10?

2011-09-13 Thread Hung-Sheng Tsao (Lao Tsao 老曹) Ph.D.
hi I do not have s10u10 but in s10u9 zfs get does have aclmode but in s11x(express) zfs get does not have aclmode any more, there was big discussion and seems that illumos has resurrect aclmode regards On 9/13/2011 8:21 AM, Peter Tribble wrote: On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 1:50 AM, Paul B. Henson

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS

2011-09-13 Thread Bryan Hodgson
Concerning native Solaris tools: Solaris tar takes a 'p' flag that stores ACL information, and re-creates same when extracted. I've not made much use of it yet, but it apparently works on UFS and ZFS (although there are obvious difficulties restoring ZFS ACLs to UFS, etc.) Gtar on Linux extract

Re: [zfs-discuss] aclmode gone in S10u10?

2011-09-13 Thread Paul B. Henson
On 9/13/2011 5:07 AM, Paul Kraus wrote: Patch-ID# 144500-19 is the kernel update that is the kernel from 10U10 Yep, the guy posting on sunmanagers confirmed that was the patch he installed which broke aclmode. Did update 10 sneak out under cover of darkness or what? I didn't see any announcem

Re: [zfs-discuss] aclmode gone in S10u10?

2011-09-13 Thread Paul B. Henson
On 9/13/2011 5:21 AM, Peter Tribble wrote: Update 10 has been out for about 3 weeks. Where was any announcement posted? I haven't heard anything about it. As far as I can tell, the Oracle site still only has update 9 available for download: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/server-storage/

Re: [zfs-discuss] aclmode gone in S10u10?

2011-09-13 Thread Ian Collins
On 09/14/11 12:21 AM, Peter Tribble wrote: I just tried on a U9 and U10 box. On the U10 system, I did a simple 'chmod g+s' on a directory with an ACL, and wham, the ACL vanished. Same operation on U9, and the ACL is preserved. (This doesn't affect me all that much, as ACLs on ZFS have never rea

Re: [zfs-discuss] aclmode gone in S10u10?

2011-09-13 Thread Peter Tribble
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 8:34 PM, Paul B. Henson wrote: > On 9/13/2011 5:21 AM, Peter Tribble wrote: > >> Update 10 has been out for about 3 weeks. > > Where was any announcement posted? I haven't heard anything about it. As far > as I can tell, the Oracle site still only has update 9 available for

Re: [zfs-discuss] aclmode gone in S10u10?

2011-09-13 Thread Paul B. Henson
On 9/13/2011 12:46 PM, Peter Tribble wrote: Hm. They updated that a few weeks ago with a new release but you're right, it's now back to S10U9. Which leaves me with a whole slew of boxes running a release that doesn't exist. Oracle Solaris 10 8/11 s10x_u10wos_17a X86 Copy

Re: [zfs-discuss] aclmode gone in S10u10?

2011-09-13 Thread Paul Kraus
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 3:31 PM, Paul B. Henson wrote: > Did update 10 sneak out under cover of darkness or what? I didn't see > any announcements or chatter about it, google doesn't find anything, and > the Oracle download site still only shows update 9: It was supposed to be released on Au

Re: [zfs-discuss] aclmode gone in S10u10?

2011-09-13 Thread Paul B. Henson
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 12:41:36PM -0700, Ian Collins wrote: > Not work on what way? > > I have a client who makes extensive (more like excessive!) use of ACLs > on ZFS and we don't see any problems. Other than the ridiculous > complexity of some of the ACLs that have grown over time. >From my

[zfs-discuss] NexentaStor auto-sync - zfs snapshot destroys times

2011-09-13 Thread Evgueni Martynov
Does anyone see long timeouts during zfs snapshot destroys? How long does it take to destroy in your situation? If yes, in what kind of configuration (NexentaStor version if applicable, snapshot size, type of IO to the pool, zpool type)? I'm interested to hear if anyone uses NexentaStor/Opensola

Re: [zfs-discuss] NexentaStor auto-sync - zfs snapshot destroys times

2011-09-13 Thread Ian Collins
On 09/14/11 01:59 PM, Evgueni Martynov wrote: It's not a good idea to hijack an existing thread! Does anyone see long timeouts during zfs snapshot destroys? Define long in this context. How long does it take to destroy in your situation? No more than a second or two. If yes, in what ki

Re: [zfs-discuss] NexentaStor auto-sync - zfs snapshot destroys times

2011-09-13 Thread Evgueni Martynov
On 13/09/2011 10:12 PM, Ian Collins wrote: On 09/14/11 01:59 PM, Evgueni Martynov wrote: It's not a good idea to hijack an existing thread! Does anyone see long timeouts during zfs snapshot destroys? Define long in this context. ~1-2 minutes, may be longer How long does it take to destr

Re: [zfs-discuss] aclmode gone in S10u10?

2011-09-13 Thread Florian Wagner
> [...] > > He already opened a support ticket, they responded: > > - > ZFS appears to be the only file system supporting NFSv4 ACLs > that attempts to preserve ACLs during chmod(2) operations. > Unfortunately, this requires the ACL to be modified in ways that are > confusing to customers and