Re: [zfs-discuss] Noob: Best way to replace a disk when you're out of internal connectors?

2008-12-30 Thread Brandon High
On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 8:45 PM, Larry Hastings wrote: > Hope I'm posting this in the right place. > > I've got a RAIDZ2 volume made of 14 SATA 1TB drives. The box they're in is > absolutely packed full; I know of no way to add any additional drives, or > internal SATA connectors. I have a dyi

[zfs-discuss] ZFS Import Problem

2008-12-30 Thread Michael McKnight
Hi everyone, I have a serious problem and need some assistance. I was doing a rolling upgrade of a raidz1, replacing 320GB drives with 1.5TB drives (ie. zpool replace). I had replaced three of the drives and they had resilvered without errors and then I started on the fourth one. It went dow

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Import Problem

2008-12-30 Thread Andrew Gabriel
Michael McKnight wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I have a serious problem and need some assistance. I was doing a rolling > upgrade of a raidz1, replacing 320GB drives with 1.5TB drives (ie. zpool > replace). I had replaced three of the drives and they had resilvered without > errors and then I star

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs HardWare raid - data integrity?

2008-12-30 Thread Marc Bevand
Carsten Aulbert aei.mpg.de> writes: > > In RAID6 you have redundant parity, thus the controller can find out > if the parity was correct or not. At least I think that to be true > for Areca controllers :) Are you sure about that ? The latest research I know of [1] says that although an algorith

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs HardWare raid - data integrity?

2008-12-30 Thread Carsten Aulbert
Hi Marc, Marc Bevand wrote: > Carsten Aulbert aei.mpg.de> writes: >> In RAID6 you have redundant parity, thus the controller can find out >> if the parity was correct or not. At least I think that to be true >> for Areca controllers :) > > Are you sure about that ? The latest research I know of

Re: [zfs-discuss] Cannot remove a file on a GOOD ZFS filesystem

2008-12-30 Thread Marcelo Leal
Hello all, # zpool status pool: mypool state: ONLINE scrub: scrub completed after 0h2m with 0 errors on Fri Dec 19 09:32:42 2008 config: NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM storage ONLINE 0 0 0 mirror ONLINE 0 0 0

Re: [zfs-discuss] Problem with time-slider

2008-12-30 Thread Charles
Yeah Thanks a lot to timf and mgerdts, it's working now ! -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

[zfs-discuss] snapshot before patching..

2008-12-30 Thread dick hoogendijk
What kind of snapshot do I need to be on the safe side patching a S10u6 system? rpool? rpool/ROOT? rpool/ROOT/BE? And how/what do I do to reverse to the non-patched system in case something goes terribly wrong? ;-) -- Dick Hoogendijk -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE +http://nagual.nl/ | SunOS 10u6 10/

Re: [zfs-discuss] Redundancy for /opt by raidz?

2008-12-30 Thread iman habibi
Dear Admin I have a server with 6 HDD,in fresh installation i select two disks for mirroring and create rpool and installing solaris10,but i need further space than default rpool`s file systems for installing my application. (for example mysql).so i decide create another pool (named tank) with 4 re

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Import Problem

2008-12-30 Thread Weldon S Godfrey 3
If memory serves me right, sometime around 12:34am, Michael McKnight told me: > > I have tried import -f, import -d, import -f -d ... nothing works. > Did you try zpool export 1st? ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.

Re: [zfs-discuss] snapshot before patching..

2008-12-30 Thread Gary Mills
On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 02:06:16PM +0100, dick hoogendijk wrote: > What kind of snapshot do I need to be on the safe side patching a S10u6 > system? rpool? rpool/ROOT? rpool/ROOT/BE? Use Live Upgrade. Create a new boot environment and apply the patches to that. Activate the new BE and `init 6'.

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Import Problem

2008-12-30 Thread Johan Hartzenberg
On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 3:32 PM, Weldon S Godfrey 3 wrote: > > > > If memory serves me right, sometime around 12:34am, Michael McKnight told > me: > > > > > I have tried import -f, import -d, import -f -d ... nothing works. > > > > Did you try zpool export 1st? > He did say he was doing zpool re

Re: [zfs-discuss] Noob: Best way to replace a disk when you're out of internal connectors?

2008-12-30 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Mon, 29 Dec 2008, Larry Hastings wrote: > > I could swap the dying drive with the fresh drive, then run an > in-place "zpool replace". But the drive isn't [i]dead,[/i] it is > merely [i]dying[/i]. That seems like overkill. I am a bit slow today. It seems like a dying drive should be replac

Re: [zfs-discuss] Noob: Best way to replace a disk when you're out of internal connectors?

2008-12-30 Thread Larry Hastings
On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 12:18 AM, Brandon High wrote: > You should be able to export the volume and > physically replace the disk at that point. Again, noob here, so just making sure I understand what you suggest: 1) zpool replace volume baddisk newdisk 2) zpool export volume 3) physically remove bad

Re: [zfs-discuss] Cannot remove a file on a GOOD ZFS filesystem

2008-12-30 Thread Sanjeev Bagewadi
Marcelo, Thanks for the details ! This rules out a bug that I was suspecting : http://bugs.opensolaris.org/view_bug.do?bug_id=6664765 This needs more analysis. What does the "rm" command fail with ? We could probably run truss on the rm command like : "truss -o /tmp/rm.truss rm " You then pass o

Re: [zfs-discuss] Noob: Best way to replace a disk when you're out of internal connectors?

2008-12-30 Thread Bob Netherton
> I am a bit slow today. It seems like a dying drive should be replaced > ASAP. Completely agree with Bob on this. I drive an 8.000lb truck and the tires have industrial strength runflats. If I get a puncture or tear in a tire I replace it as soon as I can, not when it is convenient. The r

Re: [zfs-discuss] Noob: Best way to replace a disk when you're out of internal connectors?

2008-12-30 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Tue, 30 Dec 2008, Larry Hastings wrote: > Again, noob here, so just making sure I understand what you suggest: > 1) zpool replace volume baddisk newdisk > 2) zpool export volume > 3) physically remove baddisk and replace it with newdisk (which for > me requires shutting down, sigh) > 4) zpool

Re: [zfs-discuss] Noob: Best way to replace a disk when you're out of internal connectors?

2008-12-30 Thread Larry Hastings
On Tue, 30 Dec 2008, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: > I don't see a need for the zpool export and import > unless you have a way to convert your USB drive > into an drive which works directly in your chassis. Ah, but that's exactly what I've got. I'm not using a dedicated USB drive, I'm using a simple e

Re: [zfs-discuss] Cannot remove a file on a GOOD ZFS filesystem

2008-12-30 Thread Marcelo Leal
execve("/usr/bin/rm", 0x08047DBC, 0x08047DC8) argc = 2 mmap(0x, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANON, -1, 0) = 0xFEFF resolvepath("/usr/lib/ld.so.1", "/lib/ld.so.1", 1023) = 12 resolvepath("/usr/bin/rm", "/usr/bin/rm", 1023) = 11 sysconfig(_CONFIG_PAGESIZE)

Re: [zfs-discuss] read/write errors on storage pool (poss. ahci/hw related?)

2008-12-30 Thread Richard Elling
Jay wrote: > hi *, > > i'm currently playing around with the setup of an opensolaris server as > home nas and am experiencing occasional read/write problems with the > zfs pool. > > the short version (details below/attached): > * 6-disk raidz pool attached to the sata controller on an nvidia MCP78

Re: [zfs-discuss] Cannot remove a file on a GOOD ZFS filesystem

2008-12-30 Thread Sanjeev Bagewadi
Marcelo, Thanks for the details. Comments inline... Marcelo Leal wrote: > execve("/usr/bin/rm", 0x08047DBC, 0x08047DC8) argc = 2 > mmap(0x, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANON, > -1, 0) = 0xFEFF > resolvepath("/usr/lib/ld.so.1", "/lib/ld.so.1", 1023) = 12 > re

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS capable GRUB install from within Linux?

2008-12-30 Thread David Abrahams
on Mon Dec 29 2008, David Abrahams wrote: > on Tue Nov 11 2008, Mario Goebbels wrote: > >> Is it possible to install a GRUB that can boot a ZFS root, but installing it >> from >> within Linux? >> >> I was planning on getting a new unmanaged dedicated server, which however >> only comes >> wit

Re: [zfs-discuss] Cannot remove a file on a GOOD ZFS filesystem

2008-12-30 Thread Marcelo Leal
execve("/usr/bin/ls", 0x08047DA8, 0x08047DB4) argc = 2 mmap(0x, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANON, -1, 0) = 0xFEFF resolvepath("/usr/lib/ld.so.1", "/lib/ld.so.1", 1023) = 12 resolvepath("/usr/bin/ls", "/usr/bin/ls", 1023) = 11 xstat(2, "/usr/bin/ls", 0x08047A5

[zfs-discuss] zfs mount hangs

2008-12-30 Thread Magnus Bergman
Hi again, No ideas? I have spent quite some time trying to recover, but no luck yet. Any ideas or hints on recovery would be great! I'm soon running out of time and will have to rebuild the zones and restore the data but I'd much rather like to be able to recover it from the datasets. Since

Re: [zfs-discuss] Redundancy for /opt by raidz?

2008-12-30 Thread Vincent Fox
> > Dear AdminI have a server with 6 HDD,in fresh > installation i select two disks for mirroring and > create rpool and installing solaris10,but i need > further space than default rpool`s file systems for > installing my application. (for example mysql).so i > decide create another pool (named t

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs mount hangs

2008-12-30 Thread Brent Jones
On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Magnus Bergman wrote: > Hi again, > > No ideas? I have spent quite some time trying to recover, but no luck > yet. Any ideas or hints on recovery would be great! I'm soon running > out of time and will have to rebuild the zones and restore the data > but I'd much

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs HardWare raid - data integrity?

2008-12-30 Thread Marc Bevand
Carsten Aulbert aei.mpg.de> writes: > > Well, I probably need to wade through the paper (and recall Galois field > theory) before answering this. We did a few tests in a 16 disk RAID6 > where we wrote data to the RAID, powered the system down, pulled out one > disk, inserted it into another comput

Re: [zfs-discuss] Noob: Best way to replace a disk when you're out of internal connectors?

2008-12-30 Thread Akhilesh Mritunjai
Umm, why do you need to do it the complicated way ? Here it is from zpool man page- zpool replace [-f] pool old_device [new_device] Replaces old_device with new_device. This is equivalent to attaching new_device, waiting for it to resilver, and then detaching old

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Import Problem

2008-12-30 Thread Akhilesh Mritunjai
I'm not an expert but for what it's worth- 1. Try the original system. It might be a fluke/bad cable or anything else intermittent. I've seen it happen here. If so, your pool may be alright. 2. For the (defunct) originals, I'd say we'd need to take a look into the sources to find if something n

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Import Problem

2008-12-30 Thread Michael McKnight
> I'm not an expert but for what it's worth- > > 1. Try the original system. It might be a fluke/bad > cable or anything else intermittent. I've seen it > happen here. If so, your pool may be alright. > > 2. For the (defunct) originals, I'd say we'd need to > take a look into the sources to find

Re: [zfs-discuss] Noob: Best way to replace a disk when you're out of internal connectors?

2008-12-30 Thread Brandon High
On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 12:18 AM, Brandon High wrote: > Use a USB enclosure for the new drive, and do: > zfs replace bad_disk new_disk > > You should be able to export the volume and physically replace the > disk at that point. It was late when I wrote that, so let me clarify a few things. I'm a

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs HardWare raid - data integrity?

2008-12-30 Thread Mattias Pantzare
On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 11:30, Carsten Aulbert wrote: > Hi Marc, > > Marc Bevand wrote: >> Carsten Aulbert aei.mpg.de> writes: >>> In RAID6 you have redundant parity, thus the controller can find out >>> if the parity was correct or not. At least I think that to be true >>> for Areca controllers

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs HardWare raid - data integrity?

2008-12-30 Thread Orvar Korvar
Que? So what can we deduce about HW raid? There are some controller cards that do background concistency checks? And error detection of various kind? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org ht

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs HardWare raid - data integrity?

2008-12-30 Thread JZ
Orvar, did you see my post on consistency check and data integrity? It does not matter what HW RAID has, the point is what HW RAID does not have... Please, for the respect for Bill, please study, here are more. THE LAST WORD IN FILE SYSTEMS http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/zfs_lc_preso.pdf B

Re: [zfs-discuss] Noob: Best way to replace a disk when you're out of internal connectors?

2008-12-30 Thread Larry Hastings
On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Brandon High wrote: > 4) zpool import volume Alas--it did not work. r...@elephant# zpool import home cannot import 'home': no such pool available I was able to import it by force: r...@elephant# zpool import -d /dev/mapper home I exported it again, then ran "z

Re: [zfs-discuss] Cannot remove a file on a GOOD ZFS filesystem

2008-12-30 Thread Sanjeev
Marcello, Comments inline... On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 10:35:37AM -0800, Marcelo Leal wrote: > pathconf(".", 20) = 2 > acl(".", ACE_GETACLCNT, 0, 0x) = 6 > stat64(".", 0x08046890) = 0 > acl(".", ACE_GETACL, 6, 0x08071C48)