Re: Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs. Apple XRaid

2006-08-01 Thread Joe Little
I've submitted these to Roch and co before on the NFS list and off list. My favorite case was writing 6250 8k files (randomly generated) over NFS from a solaris or linux client. We originally were getting 20K/sec when I was using RAIDZ, but between switching to RAID-5 backed iscsi luns in a zpool

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs. Apple XRaid

2006-08-01 Thread eric kustarz
Joe Little wrote: On 7/31/06, Dale Ghent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Jul 31, 2006, at 8:07 PM, eric kustarz wrote: > > The 2.6.x Linux client is much nicer... one thing fixed was the > client doing too many commits (which translates to fsyncs on the > server). I would still recommend the S

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs. Apple XRaid

2006-08-01 Thread Jonathan Edwards
On Aug 1, 2006, at 03:43, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So what does this exercise leave me thinking? Is Linux 2.4.x really screwed up in NFS-land? This Solaris NFS replaces a Linux-based NFS server that the clients (linux and IRIX) liked just fine. Yes; the Linux NFS server and client work tog

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs. Apple XRaid

2006-08-01 Thread Jan Schaumann
Bill Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jul 31, 2006 at 06:08:04PM -0400, Jan Schaumann wrote: > > # echo '::offsetof vdev_t vdev_nowritecache' | mdb -k > > offsetof (vdev_t, vdev_nowritecache) = 0x4c0 > > Ok, then try this: > > echo '::spa -v' | mdb -k | awk '/dev.dsk/{print $1"+4c0/

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs. Apple XRaid

2006-08-01 Thread Casper . Dik
>Right, but I never had this speed problem when the NFS server was >running Linux on hardware that had the quarter of the CPU power and >half the disk i/o capacity that the new Solaris-based one has. >So either Linux's NFS client was more compatible with the bugs in >Linux's NFS server and

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs. Apple XRaid

2006-08-01 Thread Casper . Dik
>So what does this exercise leave me thinking? Is Linux 2.4.x really >screwed up in NFS-land? This Solaris NFS replaces a Linux-based NFS >server that the clients (linux and IRIX) liked just fine. Yes; the Linux NFS server and client work together just fine but generally only because the Lin

Re: Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs. Apple XRaid

2006-07-31 Thread Joe Little
On 7/31/06, Dale Ghent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Jul 31, 2006, at 8:07 PM, eric kustarz wrote: > > The 2.6.x Linux client is much nicer... one thing fixed was the > client doing too many commits (which translates to fsyncs on the > server). I would still recommend the Solaris client but i'm

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs. Apple XRaid

2006-07-31 Thread Dale Ghent
On Jul 31, 2006, at 8:07 PM, eric kustarz wrote: The 2.6.x Linux client is much nicer... one thing fixed was the client doing too many commits (which translates to fsyncs on the server). I would still recommend the Solaris client but i'm sure that's no surprise. But if you'r'e stuck on

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs. Apple XRaid

2006-07-31 Thread eric kustarz
Rich Teer wrote: On Mon, 31 Jul 2006, Dale Ghent wrote: So what does this exercise leave me thinking? Is Linux 2.4.x really screwed up in NFS-land? This Solaris NFS replaces a Linux-based NFS server that the Linux has had, uhhmmm (struggling to be nice), iffy NFS for ages. The 2.

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs. Apple XRaid

2006-07-31 Thread Dale Ghent
On Jul 31, 2006, at 7:30 PM, Rich Teer wrote: On Mon, 31 Jul 2006, Dale Ghent wrote: So what does this exercise leave me thinking? Is Linux 2.4.x really screwed up in NFS-land? This Solaris NFS replaces a Linux-based NFS server that the Linux has had, uhhmmm (struggling to be nice), iffy

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs. Apple XRaid

2006-07-31 Thread Rich Teer
On Mon, 31 Jul 2006, Dale Ghent wrote: > So what does this exercise leave me thinking? Is Linux 2.4.x really screwed up > in NFS-land? This Solaris NFS replaces a Linux-based NFS server that the Linux has had, uhhmmm (struggling to be nice), iffy NFS for ages. -- Rich Teer, SCNA, SCSA, OpenSola

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs. Apple XRaid

2006-07-31 Thread Dale Ghent
On Jul 31, 2006, at 2:17 PM, Jan Schaumann wrote: Hello all, After setting up a Solaris 10 machine with ZFS as the new NFS server, I'm stumped by some serious performance problems. Here are the (admittedly long) details (also noted at http://www.netmeister.org/blog/): The machine in question

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs. Apple XRaid

2006-07-31 Thread Bill Moore
On Mon, Jul 31, 2006 at 06:08:04PM -0400, Jan Schaumann wrote: > # echo '::offsetof vdev_t vdev_nowritecache' | mdb -k > offsetof (vdev_t, vdev_nowritecache) = 0x4c0 Ok, then try this: echo '::spa -v' | mdb -k | awk '/dev.dsk/{print $1"+4c0/W1"}' | mdb -kw --Bill ___

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs. Apple XRaid

2006-07-31 Thread Jan Schaumann
Bill Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hmm. It should have printed something like this: > > 857a0a60 vdev_nowritecache = 0 (B_FALSE) > > I think there might be a problem with the CTF data (debugging info) > in U2. First, check /etc/release and make sure it says something like > "

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs. Apple XRaid

2006-07-31 Thread Bill Moore
On Mon, Jul 31, 2006 at 03:59:23PM -0400, Jan Schaumann wrote: > Thanks for the suggestion. However, I'm not sure if the above pipeline > is correct: > > 2# !! | awk '/dev.dsk/{print $1"::print -a vdev_t vdev_nowritecache"}' > 857a0580::print -a vdev_t vdev_nowritecache > 3# !! | mdb -k >

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs. Apple XRaid

2006-07-31 Thread Jan Schaumann
Bill Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > To test this theory, run this command on your NFS server (as root): > > echo '::spa -v' | mdb -k | \ > awk '/dev.dsk/{print $1"::print -a vdev_t vdev_nowritecache"}' | \ > mdb -k | awk '{print $1"/W1"}' | mdb -kw Thanks for the suggestio

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs. Apple XRaid

2006-07-31 Thread Bill Moore
On Mon, Jul 31, 2006 at 02:17:00PM -0400, Jan Schaumann wrote: > Is there anybody here who's using ZFS on Apple XRaids and serving them > via NFS? Does anybody have any other ideas what I could do to solve > this? (I have, in the mean time, converted the XRaid to plain old UFS, > and performance