Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs raidz1 and traditional raid 5 perfomrance comparision

2010-07-25 Thread Ross Walker
On Jul 23, 2010, at 10:14 PM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: >> From: Arne Jansen [mailto:sensi...@gmx.net] >>> >>> Can anyone else confirm or deny the correctness of this statement? >> >> As I understand it that's the whole point of raidz. Each block is its >> own >> stripe. > > Nope, that doesn't

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs raidz1 and traditional raid 5 perfomrance comparision

2010-07-23 Thread Richard Elling
On Jul 23, 2010, at 7:14 PM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: >> From: Arne Jansen [mailto:sensi...@gmx.net] >>> >>> Can anyone else confirm or deny the correctness of this statement? >> >> As I understand it that's the whole point of raidz. Each block is its >> own >> stripe. > > Nope, that doesn't

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs raidz1 and traditional raid 5 perfomrance comparision

2010-07-23 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
> From: Arne Jansen [mailto:sensi...@gmx.net] > > > > Can anyone else confirm or deny the correctness of this statement? > > As I understand it that's the whole point of raidz. Each block is its > own > stripe. Nope, that doesn't count for confirmation. It is at least theoretically possible to

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs raidz1 and traditional raid 5 perfomrance comparision

2010-07-23 Thread Arne Jansen
Edward Ned Harvey wrote: From: Robert Milkowski [mailto:mi...@task.gda.pl] [In raidz] The issue is that each zfs filesystem block is basically spread across n-1 devices. So every time you want to read back a single fs block you need to wait for all n-1 devices to provide you with a part of it

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs raidz1 and traditional raid 5 perfomrance comparision

2010-07-23 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
> From: Robert Milkowski [mailto:mi...@task.gda.pl] > > [In raidz] The issue is that each zfs filesystem block is basically > spread across > n-1 devices. > So every time you want to read back a single fs block you need to wait > for all n-1 devices to provide you with a part of it - and keep in m

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs raidz1 and traditional raid 5 perfomrance comparision

2010-07-22 Thread Robert Milkowski
On 22/07/2010 03:25, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Robert Milkowski I had a quick look at your results a moment ago. The problem is that you used a server with 4GB of RAM + a raid card w

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs raidz1 and traditional raid 5 perfomrance comparision

2010-07-22 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
> From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- > boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Robert Milkowski > > > I had a quick look at your results a moment ago. > The problem is that you used a server with 4GB of RAM + a raid card > with > a 256MB of cache. > Then your filesize for

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs raidz1 and traditional raid 5 perfomrance comparision

2010-07-21 Thread Ulrich Graef
There is a common misconception about the comparison between mirror and raidz. You get the same performance, when you use the same number of disks. But the resulting filesystem has a different sizre, therefore a comparison is not applicable. Example: you have 8 disks Compare a zpool with one

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs raidz1 and traditional raid 5 perfomrance comparision

2010-07-21 Thread Robert Milkowski
On 21/07/2010 15:40, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of v for zfs raidz1, I know for random io, iops of a raidz1 vdev eqaul to one physical disk iops, since raidz1 is like raid5 , so is raid5 has same perf

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs raidz1 and traditional raid 5 perfomrance comparision

2010-07-21 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
> From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- > boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of v > > for zfs raidz1, I know for random io, iops of a raidz1 vdev eqaul to > one physical disk iops, since raidz1 is like raid5 , so is raid5 has > same performance like raidz1? ie. random iops

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs raidz1 and traditional raid 5 perfomrance comparision

2010-07-20 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Tue, 20 Jul 2010, Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk wrote: Mostly, yes. Traditionl RAID-5 is likely to be faster than ZFS because of ZFS doing checksumming, having the ZIL etc, but then, trad raid5 won't have the safety offered by ZFS The biggest difference is almost surely that ZFS will always const

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs raidz1 and traditional raid 5 perfomrance comparision

2010-07-20 Thread Richard Elling
On Jul 20, 2010, at 3:46 AM, Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk wrote: > - Original Message - >> Hi, >> for zfs raidz1, I know for random io, iops of a raidz1 vdev eqaul to >> one physical disk iops, since raidz1 is like raid5 , so is raid5 has >> same performance like raidz1? ie. random iops equal to on

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs raidz1 and traditional raid 5 perfomrance comparision

2010-07-20 Thread Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
- Original Message - > On Jul 20, 2010, at 6:12 AM, v wrote: > > > Hi, > > for zfs raidz1, I know for random io, iops of a raidz1 vdev eqaul to > > one physical disk iops, since raidz1 is like raid5 , so is raid5 has > > same performance like raidz1? ie. random iops equal to one physical

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs raidz1 and traditional raid 5 perfomrance comparision

2010-07-20 Thread Ross Walker
On Jul 20, 2010, at 6:12 AM, v wrote: > Hi, > for zfs raidz1, I know for random io, iops of a raidz1 vdev eqaul to one > physical disk iops, since raidz1 is like raid5 , so is raid5 has same > performance like raidz1? ie. random iops equal to one physical disk's ipos. On reads, no, any part of

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs raidz1 and traditional raid 5 perfomrance comparision

2010-07-20 Thread Darren J Moffat
On 20/07/2010 11:46, Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk wrote: - Original Message - Hi, for zfs raidz1, I know for random io, iops of a raidz1 vdev eqaul to one physical disk iops, since raidz1 is like raid5 , so is raid5 has same performance like raidz1? ie. random iops equal to one physical disk's i

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs raidz1 and traditional raid 5 perfomrance comparision

2010-07-20 Thread Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
- Original Message - > Hi, > for zfs raidz1, I know for random io, iops of a raidz1 vdev eqaul to > one physical disk iops, since raidz1 is like raid5 , so is raid5 has > same performance like raidz1? ie. random iops equal to one physical > disk's ipos. Mostly, yes. Traditionl RAID-5 is li

[zfs-discuss] zfs raidz1 and traditional raid 5 perfomrance comparision

2010-07-20 Thread v
Hi, for zfs raidz1, I know for random io, iops of a raidz1 vdev eqaul to one physical disk iops, since raidz1 is like raid5 , so is raid5 has same performance like raidz1? ie. random iops equal to one physical disk's ipos. Regards Victor -- This message posted from opensolaris.org _