Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs comparison

2008-01-21 Thread Darren J Moffat
Matty wrote: > On Jan 18, 2008 7:35 AM, Darren J Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Sengor wrote: >>> On 1/17/08, Darren J Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Pardon my ignorance, but is ZFS with compression safe to use in a > production environment? Yes, why wouldn't it be ? If it

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs comparison

2008-01-19 Thread Matty
On Jan 18, 2008 7:35 AM, Darren J Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sengor wrote: > > On 1/17/08, Darren J Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> Pardon my ignorance, but is ZFS with compression safe to use in a > >>> production environment? > >> Yes, why wouldn't it be ? If it wasn't safe it w

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs comparison

2008-01-19 Thread Richard Elling
Sengor wrote: > On 1/19/08, Fred Zlotnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> But, of course, many other enterprise customers _have_ adopted >> ZFS, and are quite happy with it. For a list of ZFS reference >> customers please contact Solaris Marketing. ZFS is used in many >> mission critical roles

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs comparison

2008-01-18 Thread Sengor
On 1/19/08, Fred Zlotnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But, of course, many other enterprise customers _have_ adopted > ZFS, and are quite happy with it. For a list of ZFS reference > customers please contact Solaris Marketing. ZFS is used in many > mission critical roles today, and by and large

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs comparison

2008-01-18 Thread Sengor
On 1/19/08, Paul Kraus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I suspect that the amount of changes / discussion is no less > for ZFS than for any new filesystem, just that due to the open source > nature of it the discussions are in public view. The fact that the > issues *are* being discussed is a h

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs comparison

2008-01-18 Thread Sengor
On 1/19/08, Darren J Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On what do you base that statement ? > > How do you "see" what enterprises are adopting ? > > State your sources please. Out of the many I work on only one's been keen on adopting it any time soon, another one's planning to look into it but

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs comparison

2008-01-18 Thread eric kustarz
On Jan 18, 2008, at 4:23 AM, Sengor wrote: > On 1/17/08, Darren J Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Pardon my ignorance, but is ZFS with compression safe to use in a >>> production environment? >> >> Yes, why wouldn't it be ? If it wasn't safe it wouldn't have been >> delivered. > > Few reas

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs comparison

2008-01-18 Thread Richard Elling
Paul Kraus wrote: > On 1/18/08, Sengor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Don't get me wrong, I believe ZFS is a great product to have come out >> of Sun's software group, however I don't think it's matured enough to >> be relied upon with mission crititcal systems. ZFS is changing too >> fast to

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs comparison

2008-01-18 Thread Fred Zlotnick
Many enterprise customers have told us that they are waiting for two features, not yet available in ZFS, before they will adopt it widely in their datacenter environments: - The ability to boot off of a ZFS partition. I don't actually understand this one, since you can't boot Solaris from a Vx

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs comparison

2008-01-18 Thread Darren J Moffat
Sengor wrote: > On 1/18/08, Darren J Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Simply FUD. > > I don't see many enterprises adopting ZFS even though it's been > officially out for a while now. On what do you base that statement ? How do you "see" what enterprises are adopting ? State your sources pl

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs comparison

2008-01-18 Thread Paul Kraus
On 1/18/08, Sengor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't see many enterprises adopting ZFS even though it's been > officially out for a while now. Looking over the mailing list and > numbers of ZFS patches, it's enough to scare lots of people away. I suspect that the amount of changes / di

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs comparison

2008-01-18 Thread Sengor
On 1/18/08, Darren J Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Simply FUD. I don't see many enterprises adopting ZFS even though it's been officially out for a while now. Looking over the mailing list and numbers of ZFS patches, it's enough to scare lots of people away. Don't get me wrong, I believe ZF

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs comparison

2008-01-18 Thread Darren J Moffat
Sengor wrote: > On 1/17/08, Darren J Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Pardon my ignorance, but is ZFS with compression safe to use in a >>> production environment? >> Yes, why wouldn't it be ? If it wasn't safe it wouldn't have been >> delivered. > > Few reasons - > http://prefetch.net/blog

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs comparison

2008-01-18 Thread Sengor
On 1/17/08, Darren J Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Pardon my ignorance, but is ZFS with compression safe to use in a > > production environment? > > Yes, why wouldn't it be ? If it wasn't safe it wouldn't have been > delivered. Few reasons - http://prefetch.net/blog/index.php/2007/11/28/

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs comparison

2008-01-17 Thread Anton B. Rang
> Pardon my ignorance, but is ZFS with compression safe to use in a > production environment? I'd say, as safe as ZFS in general. ZFS has been well-tested by Sun, but it's not as mature as UFS, say. There is not yet a fsck equivalent for ZFS, so if a bug results in damage to your ZFS data pool

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs comparison

2008-01-17 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Agile, Comments in-between Thursday, January 17, 2008, 2:20:42 AM, you wrote: AA> Hi - I'm new to ZFS but not to Solaris. AA> Is there a search able interface to the zfs-discuss mail archives? http://opensolaris.org/os/discussions/ and look for zfs-discuss list. AA> We have a Windows

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs comparison

2008-01-17 Thread Darren J Moffat
Agile Aspect wrote: > Hi - I'm new to ZFS but not to Solaris. > > Is there a search able interface to the zfs-discuss mail archives? Use google against the mailman archives: http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/ > Pardon my ignorance, but is ZFS with compression safe to use in a >

[zfs-discuss] zfs comparison

2008-01-16 Thread Agile Aspect
Hi - I'm new to ZFS but not to Solaris. Is there a search able interface to the zfs-discuss mail archives? We have a Windows 2003 Cluster with 200 TB SAN running under Active Directory with file system compression. Half the population is running Linux and the other half is running Windows XP. I