Re: [zfs-discuss] jbod questions

2006-10-07 Thread Roch
Now, RAIDZn should beat RAID-5 since it tends to queue up writes until it can write a full stripe at once (right?) correct. so you will get _less_ writes required, but it still has the same problem for sparse writes (i.e. small writes spaced far apart on the disk layout, where writes t

Re: [zfs-discuss] jbod questions

2006-10-03 Thread Dale Ghent
On Oct 3, 2006, at 11:15 AM, Keith Clay wrote: Folks, Would it be wise to buy 2 jbod box and place one side of the mirror on each one? Would that make sense? Of course that makes sense. Doing so will give you chassis-level redundancy. If one JBOD were to, say, lose power or in some way

Re: [zfs-discuss] jbod questions

2006-10-03 Thread Keith Clay
Folks, Would it be wise to buy 2 jbod box and place one side of the mirror on each one? Would that make sense? Also, we are looking at SATA to FC to hook into our san. Any comments/admonitions/advice? keith ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-dis

Re: [zfs-discuss] jbod questions

2006-09-30 Thread Randy Bias
On Sep 30, 2006, at 1:07 PM, Torrey McMahon wrote:What about the case of an iSCSI LUN?  Does this change?  I get that while local to the system a read from a mirror versus a RAIDZ pool is desirable, but would an IP network introduce enough latency that the difference is negligible?  And wouldn't I

Re: [zfs-discuss] jbod questions

2006-09-30 Thread Torrey McMahon
Randy Bias wrote: On Sep 29, 2006, at 6:24 AM, Roch wrote: Keith Clay writes: On Sep 29, 2006, at 2:41 AM, Roch wrote: IMO, RAIDZn should perform admirably on the write loads. The random reads aspects is more limited. The simple rule of thumb is to consider that a RAIDZ group will deliver ran

Re: [zfs-discuss] jbod questions

2006-09-29 Thread Erik Trimble
On Fri, 2006-09-29 at 09:41 +0200, Roch wrote: > Erik Trimble writes: > > On Thu, 2006-09-28 at 10:51 -0700, Richard Elling - PAE wrote: > > > Keith Clay wrote: > > > > We are in the process of purchasing new san/s that our mail server > runs > > > > on (JES3). We have moved our mailstores t

Re: [zfs-discuss] jbod questions

2006-09-29 Thread Randy Bias
On Sep 29, 2006, at 6:24 AM, Roch wrote: Keith Clay writes: On Sep 29, 2006, at 2:41 AM, Roch wrote: IMO, RAIDZn should perform admirably on the write loads. The random reads aspects is more limited. The simple rule of thumb is to consider that a RAIDZ group will deliver random read IOPS with

Re: [zfs-discuss] jbod questions

2006-09-29 Thread Roch
Keith Clay writes: > > On Sep 29, 2006, at 2:41 AM, Roch wrote: > > > >> > > > > IMO, RAIDZn should perform admirably on the write loads. > > The random reads aspects is more limited. The simple rule of > > thumb is to consider that a RAIDZ group will deliver random > > read IOPS with

Re: [zfs-discuss] jbod questions

2006-09-29 Thread Keith Clay
On Sep 29, 2006, at 2:41 AM, Roch wrote: IMO, RAIDZn should perform admirably on the write loads. The random reads aspects is more limited. The simple rule of thumb is to consider that a RAIDZ group will deliver random read IOPS with the performance characteristic of single device. That rul

Re: [zfs-discuss] jbod questions

2006-09-29 Thread Roch
Erik Trimble writes: > On Thu, 2006-09-28 at 10:51 -0700, Richard Elling - PAE wrote: > > Keith Clay wrote: > > > We are in the process of purchasing new san/s that our mail server runs > > > on (JES3). We have moved our mailstores to zfs and continue to have > > > checksum errors -- they

Re: [zfs-discuss] jbod questions

2006-09-28 Thread Erik Trimble
On Thu, 2006-09-28 at 10:51 -0700, Richard Elling - PAE wrote: > Keith Clay wrote: > > We are in the process of purchasing new san/s that our mail server runs > > on (JES3). We have moved our mailstores to zfs and continue to have > > checksum errors -- they are corrected but this improves on th

Re: [zfs-discuss] jbod questions

2006-09-28 Thread Richard Elling - PAE
Keith Clay wrote: We are in the process of purchasing new san/s that our mail server runs on (JES3). We have moved our mailstores to zfs and continue to have checksum errors -- they are corrected but this improves on the ufs inode errors that require system shutdown and fsck. So, I am recomm

[zfs-discuss] jbod questions

2006-09-28 Thread Keith Clay
Folks, We are in the process of purchasing new san/s that our mail server runs on (JES3). We have moved our mailstores to zfs and continue to have checksum errors -- they are corrected but this improves on the ufs inode errors that require system shutdown and fsck. So, I am recommending