Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS on the desktop

2007-04-20 Thread Bill Sommerfeld
On Tue, 2007-04-17 at 17:25 -0500, Shawn Walker wrote: > > I would think the average person would want > > to have access to 1000s of DVDs / CDs within > > a small box versus taking up the full wall. > > This is already being done now, and most of the companies doing it a

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS on the desktop

2007-04-17 Thread Ian Collins
Shawn Walker wrote: > On 18/04/07, Erblichs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Rich Teer, >> >> I have a perfect app for the masses. >> >> A Hi-Def Video/ audio server for the hi-def TV >> and audio setup. >> >> I would think the average person would want >> t

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS on the desktop

2007-04-17 Thread Shawn Walker
On 18/04/07, Erblichs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Rich Teer, I have a perfect app for the masses. A Hi-Def Video/ audio server for the hi-def TV and audio setup. I would think the average person would want to have access to 1000s of DVDs / CDs within

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS on the desktop

2007-04-17 Thread Erblichs
Rich Teer, I have a perfect app for the masses. A Hi-Def Video/ audio server for the hi-def TV and audio setup. I would think the average person would want to have access to 1000s of DVDs / CDs within a small box versus taking up the full

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS on the desktop

2007-04-17 Thread Dick Davies
On 17/04/07, Rayson Ho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 4/17/07, Rich Teer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Same here. I think anyone who dismisses ZFS as being inappropriate for > desktop use ("who needs access to Petabytes of space in their desktop > machine?!") doesn't get it. Well, for many of tho

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS on the desktop

2007-04-17 Thread Toby Thain
On 17-Apr-07, at 2:00 PM, Rayson Ho wrote: On 4/17/07, Toby Thain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: OS X tends to effectively elide the "book larning" part of using UNIX. I don't think ZFS would be any exception - they won't ship until "you don't even know it's there". But then, I have helped peopl

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS on the desktop

2007-04-17 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Tue, Apr 17, 2007 at 01:00:00PM -0400, Rayson Ho wrote: > Apple is integrating DTrace too, and yet I don't see more than 10% of > the Mac users writing "D" programs. But 100% of MacOS users might end up using DTrace without knowing it. ___ zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS on the desktop

2007-04-17 Thread Rayson Ho
On 4/17/07, Toby Thain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: OS X tends to effectively elide the "book larning" part of using UNIX. I don't think ZFS would be any exception - they won't ship until "you don't even know it's there". But then, I have helped people "fixing" their computers by emptying the rec

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS on the desktop

2007-04-17 Thread Toby Thain
On 17-Apr-07, at 1:24 PM, Rayson Ho wrote: On 4/17/07, Rich Teer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Same here. I think anyone who dismisses ZFS as being inappropriate for desktop use ("who needs access to Petabytes of space in their desktop machine?!") doesn't get it. Well, for many of those who

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS on the desktop

2007-04-17 Thread Toby Thain
On 17-Apr-07, at 1:08 PM, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: On Apr 17, 2007, at 10:03 AM, Toby Thain wrote: On 17-Apr-07, at 12:15 PM, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: On Apr 17, 2007, at 7:47 AM, Toby Thain wrote: On 17-Apr-07, at 8:33 AM, Robert Milkowski wrote: ... I belive t

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS on the desktop

2007-04-17 Thread Rayson Ho
On 4/17/07, Rich Teer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Same here. I think anyone who dismisses ZFS as being inappropriate for desktop use ("who needs access to Petabytes of space in their desktop machine?!") doesn't get it. Well, for many of those who find it hard to upgrade Windows, I guess you wil

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS on the desktop

2007-04-17 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
On Apr 17, 2007, at 10:03 AM, Toby Thain wrote: On 17-Apr-07, at 12:15 PM, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: On Apr 17, 2007, at 7:47 AM, Toby Thain wrote: On 17-Apr-07, at 8:33 AM, Robert Milkowski wrote: ... I belive that ZFS definitely belongs on a desktop, Apple (and I) assured

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS on the desktop

2007-04-17 Thread Toby Thain
On 17-Apr-07, at 12:15 PM, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: On Apr 17, 2007, at 7:47 AM, Toby Thain wrote: On 17-Apr-07, at 8:33 AM, Robert Milkowski wrote: ... I belive that ZFS definitely belongs on a desktop, Apple (and I) assuredly agree with you. I would agree as well. With th

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS on the desktop

2007-04-17 Thread Rich Teer
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007, Toby Thain wrote: > The killer feature for me is checksumming and self-healing. Same here. I think anyone who dismisses ZFS as being inappropriate for desktop use ("who needs access to Petabytes of space in their desktop machine?!") doesn't get it. (A close 2nd for me perso

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS on the desktop

2007-04-17 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
On Apr 17, 2007, at 7:47 AM, Toby Thain wrote: On 17-Apr-07, at 8:33 AM, Robert Milkowski wrote: Hello Rayson, Tuesday, April 17, 2007, 10:50:41 AM, you wrote: RH> On 4/17/07, David R. Litwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: How about asking Microsoft to change Shared Source first?? Let's lea

[zfs-discuss] ZFS on the desktop

2007-04-17 Thread Toby Thain
On 17-Apr-07, at 8:33 AM, Robert Milkowski wrote: Hello Rayson, Tuesday, April 17, 2007, 10:50:41 AM, you wrote: RH> On 4/17/07, David R. Litwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: How about asking Microsoft to change Shared Source first?? Let's leave ms out of this, eh? :-) RH> While ZFS is nice