Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS, XFS, and EXT4 compared

2007-09-01 Thread Osma Ahvenlampi
> Aside from the different kernels and filesystems, I tested internal and > external journal devices and software and hardware RAIDs. Software > RAIDs are "raid-10 near2" with 6 disks on Linux. On Solaris the zpool is > created with three mirrors of two disks each. Hardware RAIDs use the > Arec

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS, XFS, and EXT4 compared

2007-08-31 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Jeffrey, Thursday, August 30, 2007, 9:53:53 PM, you wrote: JWB> On Thu, 2007-08-30 at 13:07 -0700, eric kustarz wrote: >> On Aug 30, 2007, at 12:33 PM, Jeffrey W. Baker wrote: >> > >> > Uh, whoops. As I freely admit this is my first encounter with >> > opensolaris, I just built the softwar

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS, XFS, and EXT4 compared

2007-08-30 Thread Jeffrey W. Baker
On Thu, 2007-08-30 at 15:28 -0700, Richard Elling wrote: > Jeffrey W. Baker wrote: > > # zfs set recordsize=2K tank/bench > > # randomio bigfile 10 .25 .01 2048 60 1 > > > > total | read: latency (ms) | write:latency (ms) > >iops | iops minavgmax sdev |

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS, XFS, and EXT4 compared

2007-08-30 Thread Richard Elling
Jeffrey W. Baker wrote: > # zfs set recordsize=2K tank/bench > # randomio bigfile 10 .25 .01 2048 60 1 > > total | read: latency (ms) | write:latency (ms) >iops | iops minavgmax sdev | iops minavgmax > sdev > +-

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS, XFS, and EXT4 compared

2007-08-30 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at 01:53:53PM -0700, Jeffrey W. Baker wrote: > Roughly the same as when the RS was 128K. But, if I set the RS to 2K > before creating bigfile: > > total | read: latency (ms) | write:latency (ms) >iops | iops minavgmax sdev | iops

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS, XFS, and EXT4 compared

2007-08-30 Thread Jeffrey W. Baker
On Thu, 2007-08-30 at 13:07 -0700, eric kustarz wrote: > On Aug 30, 2007, at 12:33 PM, Jeffrey W. Baker wrote: > > > > Uh, whoops. As I freely admit this is my first encounter with > > opensolaris, I just built the software on the assumption that it would > > be 64-bit by default. But it looks li

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS, XFS, and EXT4 compared

2007-08-30 Thread eric kustarz
On Aug 30, 2007, at 12:33 PM, Jeffrey W. Baker wrote: > On Thu, 2007-08-30 at 12:07 -0700, eric kustarz wrote: >> Hey jwb, >> >> Thanks for taking up the task, its benchmarking so i've got some >> questions... >> >> What does it mean to have an external vs. internal journal for ZFS? > > This is m

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS, XFS, and EXT4 compared

2007-08-30 Thread Jeffrey W. Baker
On Thu, 2007-08-30 at 12:07 -0700, eric kustarz wrote: > Hey jwb, > > Thanks for taking up the task, its benchmarking so i've got some > questions... > > What does it mean to have an external vs. internal journal for ZFS? This is my first use of ZFS, so be gentle. External == ZIL on a separat

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS, XFS, and EXT4 compared

2007-08-30 Thread Jeffrey W. Baker
On Thu, 2007-08-30 at 13:57 -0500, Eric Sandeen wrote: > Christoph Hellwig wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at 05:07:46PM +1000, Nathan Scott wrote: > >> To improve metadata performance, you have many options with XFS (which > >> ones are useful depends on the type of metadata workload) - you can tr

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS, XFS, and EXT4 compared

2007-08-30 Thread eric kustarz
On Aug 29, 2007, at 11:16 PM, Jeffrey W. Baker wrote: > I have a lot of people whispering "zfs" in my virtual ear these days, > and at the same time I have an irrational attachment to xfs based > entirely on its lack of the 32000 subdirectory limit. I'm not > afraid of > ext4's newness, since

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS, XFS, and EXT4 compared

2007-08-30 Thread Jeffrey W. Baker
On Thu, 2007-08-30 at 08:37 -0500, Jose R. Santos wrote: > On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 23:16:51 -0700 > "Jeffrey W. Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://tastic.brillig.org/~jwb/zfs-xfs-ext4.html > > FFSB: > Could you send the patch to fix FFSB Solaris build? I should probably > update the Sourcef

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS, XFS, and EXT4 compared

2007-08-30 Thread Jeffrey W. Baker
On Thu, 2007-08-30 at 14:33 -0400, Jim Mauro wrote: > Your numbers are in the 50-90MB/second range, or roughly 1/2 to 1/4 > what was > measured on the other 2 file systems for the same test. Very odd. > Yeah it's pretty odd. I'd tend to blame the Areca HBA, but then I'd also point out that the H

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS, XFS, and EXT4 compared

2007-08-30 Thread Jim Mauro
I'll take a look at this. ZFS provides outstanding sequential IO performance (both read and write). In my testing, I can essentially sustain "hardware speeds" with ZFS on sequential loads. That is, assuming 30-60MB/sec per disk sequential IO capability (depending on hitting inner or out cylinder

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS, XFS, and EXT4 compared

2007-08-29 Thread mike
On 8/29/07, Jeffrey W. Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a lot of people whispering "zfs" in my virtual ear these days, > and at the same time I have an irrational attachment to xfs based > entirely on its lack of the 32000 subdirectory limit. I'm not afraid of > ext4's newness, since real

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS, XFS, and EXT4 compared

2007-08-29 Thread Cyril Plisko
Jeffrey, it would be interesting to see your zpool layout info as well. It can significantly influence the results obtained in the benchmarks. On 8/30/07, Jeffrey W. Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a lot of people whispering "zfs" in my virtual ear these days, > and at the same time I

[zfs-discuss] ZFS, XFS, and EXT4 compared

2007-08-29 Thread Jeffrey W. Baker
I have a lot of people whispering "zfs" in my virtual ear these days, and at the same time I have an irrational attachment to xfs based entirely on its lack of the 32000 subdirectory limit. I'm not afraid of ext4's newness, since really a lot of that stuff has been in Lustre for years. So a-bench