Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Re: Mac OS X "Leopard" to use ZFS

2007-06-16 Thread Richard Elling
Mario Goebbels wrote: Also, it would seem that Apple really can't push ZFS into Mac OS X until evacuation of data and removal of vdevs is supported for pools. Does hfs+ support this? I see no evidence that it does. HFS+ isn't a file system with integrated volume management. Any disks where no

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Re: Mac OS X "Leopard" to use ZFS

2007-06-16 Thread Mario Goebbels
> > Also, it would seem that Apple really can't push ZFS into Mac OS X > > until evacuation of data and removal of vdevs is supported for pools. > > Does hfs+ support this? I see no evidence that it does. HFS+ isn't a file system with integrated volume management. Any disks where no operating sy

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Re: Mac OS X "Leopard" to use ZFS

2007-06-15 Thread Richard Elling
George wrote: I'm curious about something. Wouldn't ZFS `send` and `recv` be a perfect fit for Apple Time Machine in Leopard if glued together by some scripts? In this scenario you could have an external volume and simply send snapshots to it and reciprocate as needed with recv. Also, it would

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Re: Mac OS X "Leopard" to use ZFS

2007-06-15 Thread George
I'm curious about something. Wouldn't ZFS `send` and `recv` be a perfect fit for Apple Time Machine in Leopard if glued together by some scripts? In this scenario you could have an external volume and simply send snapshots to it and reciprocate as needed with recv. Also, it would seem that Appl

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Re: Mac OS X "Leopard" to use ZFS

2007-06-13 Thread Toby Thain
On 13-Jun-07, at 4:09 PM, Frank Cusack wrote: On June 13, 2007 9:14:48 AM -0700 Rick Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From (http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml;? articleID=199903 525) ... In a follow-up interview today, Croll explained, "ZFS is not the default file syste

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Re: Mac OS X "Leopard" to use ZFS

2007-06-13 Thread Frank Cusack
So it's been what, a day (2?) and no one has tried to import a pool on the Leopard beta? -frank ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Re: Mac OS X "Leopard" to use ZFS

2007-06-13 Thread Frank Cusack
On June 13, 2007 9:14:48 AM -0700 Rick Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From (http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml;?articleID=199903 525) ... In a follow-up interview today, Croll explained, "ZFS is not the default file system for Leopard. We are exploring it as a file system op

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Re: Mac OS X "Leopard" to use ZFS

2007-06-13 Thread Robert Smicinski
So you can migrate all your ZFS volumes to HFS+ ;-) >>> Toby Thain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 6/13/2007 12:22 PM >>> On 13-Jun-07, at 1:14 PM, Rick Mann wrote: >> From (http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml;? >> articleID=199903525) > > ... Croll explained, "ZFS is not the default fi

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Re: Mac OS X "Leopard" to use ZFS

2007-06-13 Thread Erblichs
Toby Thain, et al, I am guessing here, but to just be able to access the FS data locally without the headaches of verifying FS consistency, write caches, etc. Mitchell Erblich Toby Thain wrote: > > On 13-Jun-07, at 1:14 PM, Rick Mann wrot

[zfs-discuss] Re: Re: Mac OS X "Leopard" to use ZFS

2007-06-13 Thread Rick Mann
>From >(http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml;?articleID=199903525) --- [...] Seeking to clarify a statement made on Monday by Brian Croll, senior director of Mac OS X Product Marketing, to two InformationWeek reporters that Apple's new "Leopard" operating system would not inclu

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Re: Mac OS X "Leopard" to use ZFS

2007-06-13 Thread Toby Thain
On 13-Jun-07, at 1:14 PM, Rick Mann wrote: From (http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml;? articleID=199903525) ... Croll explained, "ZFS is not the default file system for Leopard. We are exploring it as a file system option for high-end storage systems with really large st

[zfs-discuss] Re: Re: Mac OS X "Leopard" to use ZFS

2007-06-13 Thread Rick Mann
>On Mon, 11 Jun 2007, Rick Mann wrote: >> ZFS Readonly implemntation is loaded! >Is that a copy-n-paste error, or is that typo in the actual output? It's a typo in the actual output. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing