Re: [zfs-discuss] RAIDZ2 vs. ZFS RAID-10

2007-01-08 Thread Richard Elling
Peter Schuller wrote: Is this expected behavior? Assuming concurrent reads (not synchronous and sequential) I would naively expect an ndisk raidz2 pool to have a normalized performance of n for small reads. q.v. http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=20942&tstart=0 where suc

Re: [zfs-discuss] RAIDZ2 vs. ZFS RAID-10

2007-01-08 Thread Peter Schuller
> > Is this expected behavior? Assuming concurrent reads (not synchronous and > > sequential) I would naively expect an ndisk raidz2 pool to have a > > normalized performance of n for small reads. > > q.v. http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=20942&tstart=0 > where such behavior in

Re: [zfs-discuss] RAIDZ2 vs. ZFS RAID-10

2007-01-05 Thread Richard Elling
Peter Schuller wrote: I've been using a simple model for small, random reads. In that model, the performance of a raidz[12] set will be approximately equal to a single disk. For example, if you have 6 disks, then the performance for the 6-disk raidz2 set will be normalized to 1, and the perform

Re: Re[2]: [zfs-discuss] RAIDZ2 vs. ZFS RAID-10

2007-01-03 Thread David Magda
On Jan 3, 2007, at 19:55, Jason J. W. Williams wrote: performance should be good? I assumed it was an analog to RAID-6. In our recent experience RAID-5 due to the 2 reads, a XOR calc and a write op per write instruction is usually much slower than RAID-10 (two write ops). Any advice is greatly

Re: Re[4]: [zfs-discuss] RAIDZ2 vs. ZFS RAID-10

2007-01-03 Thread Jason J. W. Williams
Hi Robert, I've read that paper. Thank you for the condescension. -J On 1/3/07, Robert Milkowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello Jason, Thursday, January 4, 2007, 1:55:02 AM, you wrote: JJWW> Hi Robert, JJWW> Our X4500 configuration is multiple 6-way (across controllers) RAID-Z2 JJWW> grou

Re[4]: [zfs-discuss] RAIDZ2 vs. ZFS RAID-10

2007-01-03 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Jason, Thursday, January 4, 2007, 1:55:02 AM, you wrote: JJWW> Hi Robert, JJWW> Our X4500 configuration is multiple 6-way (across controllers) RAID-Z2 JJWW> groups striped together. Currently, 3 RZ2 groups. I'm about to test JJWW> write performance against ZFS RAID-10. I'm curious why RAID

Re[2]: [zfs-discuss] RAIDZ2 vs. ZFS RAID-10

2007-01-03 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Peter, Thursday, January 4, 2007, 1:12:47 AM, you wrote: >> I've been using a simple model for small, random reads. In that model, >> the performance of a raidz[12] set will be approximately equal to a single >> disk. For example, if you have 6 disks, then the performance for the >> 6-dis

Re: Re[2]: [zfs-discuss] RAIDZ2 vs. ZFS RAID-10

2007-01-03 Thread Jason J. W. Williams
Hi Robert, That makes sense. Thank you. :-) Also, it was zpool I was looking at. zfs always showed the correct size. -J On 1/3/07, Robert Milkowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello Jason, Wednesday, January 3, 2007, 11:40:38 PM, you wrote: JJWW> Just got an interesting benchmark. I made two

Re[2]: [zfs-discuss] RAIDZ2 vs. ZFS RAID-10

2007-01-03 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Jason, Wednesday, January 3, 2007, 11:40:38 PM, you wrote: JJWW> Just got an interesting benchmark. I made two zpools: JJWW> RAID-10 (9x 2-way RAID-1 mirrors: 18 disks total) JJWW> RAID-Z2 (3x 6-way RAIDZ2 group: 18 disks total) JJWW> Copying 38.4GB of data from the RAID-Z2 to the RAID-10

Re: Re[2]: [zfs-discuss] RAIDZ2 vs. ZFS RAID-10

2007-01-03 Thread Jason J. W. Williams
Hi Robert, Our X4500 configuration is multiple 6-way (across controllers) RAID-Z2 groups striped together. Currently, 3 RZ2 groups. I'm about to test write performance against ZFS RAID-10. I'm curious why RAID-Z2 performance should be good? I assumed it was an analog to RAID-6. In our recent expe

Re[2]: [zfs-discuss] RAIDZ2 vs. ZFS RAID-10

2007-01-03 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Jason, Wednesday, January 3, 2007, 11:11:31 PM, you wrote: JJWW> Hi Richard, JJWW> Hmmthat's interesting. I wonder if its worth benchmarking RAIDZ2 JJWW> if those are the results you're getting. The testing is to see the JJWW> performance gain we might get for MySQL moving off the FLX2

Re: [zfs-discuss] RAIDZ2 vs. ZFS RAID-10

2007-01-03 Thread Peter Schuller
> I've been using a simple model for small, random reads. In that model, > the performance of a raidz[12] set will be approximately equal to a single > disk. For example, if you have 6 disks, then the performance for the > 6-disk raidz2 set will be normalized to 1, and the performance of a 3-way

Re: [zfs-discuss] RAIDZ2 vs. ZFS RAID-10

2007-01-03 Thread Jason J. W. Williams
Just got an interesting benchmark. I made two zpools: RAID-10 (9x 2-way RAID-1 mirrors: 18 disks total) RAID-Z2 (3x 6-way RAIDZ2 group: 18 disks total) Copying 38.4GB of data from the RAID-Z2 to the RAID-10 took 307 seconds. Deleted the data from the RAID-Z2. Then copying the 38.4GB of data from

Re: [zfs-discuss] RAIDZ2 vs. ZFS RAID-10

2007-01-03 Thread Jason J. W. Williams
Hi Richard, Hmmthat's interesting. I wonder if its worth benchmarking RAIDZ2 if those are the results you're getting. The testing is to see the performance gain we might get for MySQL moving off the FLX210 to an active/passive pair of X4500s. Was hoping with that many SATA disks RAIDZ2 would

Re: [zfs-discuss] RAIDZ2 vs. ZFS RAID-10

2007-01-03 Thread Richard Elling
Jason J. W. Williams wrote: Hello All, I was curious if anyone had run a benchmark on the IOPS performance of RAIDZ2 vs RAID-10? I'm getting ready to run one on a Thumper and was curious what others had seen. Thank you in advance. I've been using a simple model for small, random reads. In tha

Re: [zfs-discuss] RAIDZ2 vs. ZFS RAID-10

2007-01-03 Thread Tomas Ă–gren
On 03 January, 2007 - Jason J. W. Williams sent me these 0,4K bytes: > Hello All, > > I was curious if anyone had run a benchmark on the IOPS performance of > RAIDZ2 vs RAID-10? I'm getting ready to run one on a Thumper and was > curious what others had seen. Thank you in advance. http://blogs.s

[zfs-discuss] RAIDZ2 vs. ZFS RAID-10

2007-01-03 Thread Jason J. W. Williams
Hello All, I was curious if anyone had run a benchmark on the IOPS performance of RAIDZ2 vs RAID-10? I'm getting ready to run one on a Thumper and was curious what others had seen. Thank you in advance. Best Regards, Jason ___ zfs-discuss mailing list