Re: [zfs-discuss] RAID-Z and virtualization

Toby Thain wrote: > On 8-Nov-09, at 12:20 PM, Joe Auty wrote: > >> Tim Cook wrote: >>> On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 2:03 AM, besson3c >> > wrote: >>> >>> ... >>> >>> >>> Why not just convert the VM's to run in virtualbox and run Solaris >>> directly on the hardware? >>> >

Re: [zfs-discuss] RAID-Z and virtualization

On 8-Nov-09, at 12:20 PM, Joe Auty wrote: Tim Cook wrote: On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 2:03 AM, besson3c wrote: ... Why not just convert the VM's to run in virtualbox and run Solaris directly on the hardware? That's another possibility, but it depends on how Virtualbox stacks up against V

Re: [zfs-discuss] RAID-Z and virtualization

Erik Ableson wrote: > Uhhh - for an unmanaged server you can use ESXi for free. Identical > server functionality, just requires licenses if you need multiserver > features (ie vMotion) How does ESXi w/o vMotion, vSphere, and vCenter server stack up against VMWare Server? My impression was that you

Re: [zfs-discuss] RAID-Z and virtualization

Tim Cook wrote: > On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Joe Auty > wrote: > > Tim Cook wrote: >> On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 2:03 AM, besson3c > > wrote: >> >> I'm entertaining something which might be a little wacky, I'm >>

Re: [zfs-discuss] RAID-Z and virtualization

Tim Cook wrote: > On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 2:03 AM, besson3c > wrote: > > I'm entertaining something which might be a little wacky, I'm > wondering what your general reaction to this scheme might be :) > > > I would like to invest in some sort of storage appl

Re: [zfs-discuss] RAID-Z and virtualization

Tim Cook wrote: > > > It appears that one can get more in the way of features out of > VMWare Server for free than with ESX, which is seemingly a hook > into buying more VMWare stuff. > > I've never looked at Sun xVM, in fact I didn't know it even > existed, but I do now. Thank

Re: [zfs-discuss] RAID-Z and virtualization

Just to clear out the vmware stuff. ESXi + ZFS I've run production with a thumper 4540, solaris10 (before dedup:) ,48 drives, one pool, NFS through 1 GB to ESX(+ESXi) on dedicated NICs ZFS snapshots always proved to be consistent data to ESX = ESX or ESXi depends on your needs NFS (leaves all file

Re: [zfs-discuss] RAID-Z and virtualization

12:43:59 To: Joe Auty Cc: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] RAID-Z and virtualization ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-di

Re: [zfs-discuss] RAID-Z and virtualization

case, bays and drives. Which is what you'll spend on decent hardware raid. Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed -Original Message- From: Joe Auty Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:50:30 To: Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] RAID-Z and virtualization j...@lentecs.com wrote: &

Re: [zfs-discuss] RAID-Z and virtualization

Simply put ESXi is exactly the same local feature set as ESX server. So you get all of the useful stuff like transparent memory page sharing (memory deduplication), virtual switches with VLAN tagging, and high performance storage I/O. For free. As many copies as you like. But... You will ne

Re: [zfs-discuss] RAID-Z and virtualization

On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Joe Auty wrote: > Erik Ableson wrote: > > Uhhh - for an unmanaged server you can use ESXi for free. Identical server > functionality, just requires licenses if you need multiserver features (ie > vMotion) > > > How does ESXi w/o vMotion, vSphere, and vCenter serv

Re: [zfs-discuss] RAID-Z and virtualization

Uhhh - for an unmanaged server you can use ESXi for free. Identical server functionality, just requires licenses if you need multiserver features (ie vMotion) Cordialement, Erik Ableson On 8 nov. 2009, at 19:12, Tim Cook wrote: On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Joe Auty wrote: Tim Cook

Re: [zfs-discuss] RAID-Z and virtualization

On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Joe Auty wrote: > Tim Cook wrote: > > > >> It appears that one can get more in the way of features out of VMWare >> Server for free than with ESX, which is seemingly a hook into buying more >> VMWare stuff. >> >> I've never looked at Sun xVM, in fact I didn't kno

Re: [zfs-discuss] RAID-Z and virtualization

d require more complicated conversion of existing vms, or rebuilding. Or do the same thing with freebsd as your base system. --Original Message-- From: besson3c Sender: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org To: zfs Discuss Subject: [zfs-discuss] RAID-Z and virtualization Sent: Nov 8, 200

Re: [zfs-discuss] RAID-Z and virtualization

On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Joe Auty wrote: > Tim Cook wrote: > > On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Joe Auty wrote: > >> Tim Cook wrote: >> >> On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 2:03 AM, besson3c wrote: >> >>> I'm entertaining something which might be a little wacky, I'm wondering >>> what your genera

Re: [zfs-discuss] RAID-Z and virtualization

On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Joe Auty wrote: > Tim Cook wrote: > > On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 2:03 AM, besson3c wrote: > >> I'm entertaining something which might be a little wacky, I'm wondering >> what your general reaction to this scheme might be :) >> >> >> I would like to invest in some so

Re: [zfs-discuss] RAID-Z and virtualization

On Nov 8, 2009, at 12:09 PM, Tim Cook wrote: Why not just convert the VM's to run in virtualbox and run Solaris directly on the hardware? Or use OpenSolaris xVM (Xen) with either qemu img files on zpools for the VMs or zvols. -Ross ___ zfs-dis

Re: [zfs-discuss] RAID-Z and virtualization

On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 2:03 AM, besson3c wrote: > I'm entertaining something which might be a little wacky, I'm wondering > what your general reaction to this scheme might be :) > > > I would like to invest in some sort of storage appliance, and I like the > idea of something I can grow over time

Re: [zfs-discuss] RAID-Z and virtualization

My impression was that the ZFS Fuse project was no longer being maintained? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] RAID-Z and virtualization

On Sun, 8 Nov 2009, besson3c wrote: What if I were to run a FreeBSD VM and present it several vdisks, format these as ZFS, and serve up ZFS shares through this VM? I realize that I'm getting the sort of userland conveniences of ZFS this way since the host would still be writing to an EXT3/4 v

[zfs-discuss] RAID-Z and virtualization

I'm entertaining something which might be a little wacky, I'm wondering what your general reaction to this scheme might be :) I would like to invest in some sort of storage appliance, and I like the idea of something I can grow over time, something that isn't tethered to my servers (i.e. not d