Re: [zfs-discuss] Performance of partition based SWAP vs. ZFS zvol SWAP

2010-01-28 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Wed, 27 Jan 2010, RayLicon wrote: If no one has any data on this issue then fine, but I didn't waste my time posting to this site to get responses that simply say -don't swap Perhaps you can set up a test environment, measure this in a scientific way, and provide a formal summary for our

Re: [zfs-discuss] Performance of partition based SWAP vs. ZFS zvol SWAP

2010-01-27 Thread Miles Nordin
> "ag" == Andrew Gabriel writes: ag> is your working set size bigger than memory (thrashing), n...no, not...not exactly. :) ag> or is swapping likely to be just a once-off event or ag> infrequently repeated? once-off! or...well...repeated, every time the garbage collector runs

Re: [zfs-discuss] Performance of partition based SWAP vs. ZFS zvol SWAP

2010-01-27 Thread Richard Elling
On Jan 27, 2010, at 12:25 PM, RayLicon wrote: > Ok ... > > Given that ... yes, we all know that swapping is bad (thanks for the > enlightenment). > > To Swap or not to Swap isn't releated to this question, and besides, even if > you don't page swap, other mechanisms can still claim swap space,

Re: [zfs-discuss] Performance of partition based SWAP vs. ZFS zvol SWAP

2010-01-27 Thread Andrew Gabriel
LICON, RAY (ATTPB) wrote: Thanks for the reply. In many situations, the hardware design isn't up to me and budgets tend to dictate everything these days. True, nobody wants to swap, but the question is "if" you had to -- what design serves you best. Independent swap slices or putting it all unde

Re: [zfs-discuss] Performance of partition based SWAP vs. ZFS zvol SWAP

2010-01-27 Thread RayLicon
Ok ... Given that ... yes, we all know that swapping is bad (thanks for the enlightenment). To Swap or not to Swap isn't releated to this question, and besides, even if you don't page swap, other mechanisms can still claim swap space, such as the tmp file system. The question is simple, "I

[zfs-discuss] Performance of partition based SWAP vs. ZFS zvol SWAP

2010-01-27 Thread LICON, RAY (ATTPB)
Has anyone done research into the performance of SWAP on the traditional partitioned based SWAP device as compared to a SWAP area set up on ZFS with a zvol? I can find no best practices for this issue. In the old days it was considered important to separate the swap devices onto individual disks

Re: [zfs-discuss] Performance of partition based SWAP vs. ZFS zvol SWAP

2010-01-27 Thread Andrew Gabriel
RayLicon wrote: Has anyone done research into the performance of SWAP on the traditional partitioned based SWAP device as compared to a SWAP area set up on ZFS with a zvol? I can find no best practices for this issue. In the old days it was considered important to separate the swap devices o

[zfs-discuss] Performance of partition based SWAP vs. ZFS zvol SWAP

2010-01-27 Thread RayLicon
Has anyone done research into the performance of SWAP on the traditional partitioned based SWAP device as compared to a SWAP area set up on ZFS with a zvol? I can find no best practices for this issue. In the old days it was considered important to separate the swap devices onto individual dis