Re: [zfs-discuss] HowTo: UPS + ZFS & NFS + no fsync

2007-04-27 Thread Roch - PAE
cedric briner writes: > >> You might set zil_disable to 1 (_then_ mount the fs to be > >> shared). But you're still exposed to OS crashes; those would > >> still corrupt your nfs clients. > Just to better understand ? (I know that I'm quite slow :( ) > when you say _nfs clients_ are you speci

Re: [zfs-discuss] HowTo: UPS + ZFS & NFS + no fsync

2007-04-27 Thread cedric briner
You might set zil_disable to 1 (_then_ mount the fs to be shared). But you're still exposed to OS crashes; those would still corrupt your nfs clients. Just to better understand ? (I know that I'm quite slow :( ) when you say _nfs clients_ are you specifically talking of: - the nfs client program

Re: Re[2]: [zfs-discuss] HowTo: UPS + ZFS & NFS + no fsync

2007-04-27 Thread Roch - PAE
Wee Yeh Tan writes: > Robert, > > On 4/27/07, Robert Milkowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello Wee, > > > > Thursday, April 26, 2007, 4:21:00 PM, you wrote: > > > > WYT> On 4/26/07, cedric briner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> okay let'say that it is not. :) > > >> Imagine that

Re: Re[2]: [zfs-discuss] HowTo: UPS + ZFS & NFS + no fsync

2007-04-27 Thread Roch - PAE
Robert Milkowski writes: > Hello Wee, > > Thursday, April 26, 2007, 4:21:00 PM, you wrote: > > WYT> On 4/26/07, cedric briner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> okay let'say that it is not. :) > >> Imagine that I setup a box: > >> - with Solaris > >> - with many HDs (directly attached)

RE: [zfs-discuss] HowTo: UPS + ZFS & NFS + no fsync

2007-04-26 Thread Andy Lubel
Behalf Of Wee Yeh Tan Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 9:40 PM To: cedric briner Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] HowTo: UPS + ZFS & NFS + no fsync Cedric, On 4/26/07, cedric briner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> okay let'say that it is not. :) > >> I

Re: [zfs-discuss] HowTo: UPS + ZFS & NFS + no fsync

2007-04-26 Thread Wee Yeh Tan
Cedric, On 4/26/07, cedric briner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> okay let'say that it is not. :) >> Imagine that I setup a box: >> - with Solaris >> - with many HDs (directly attached). >> - use ZFS as the FS >> - export the Data with NFS >> - on an UPS. >> >> Then after reading the : >

Re: Re[2]: [zfs-discuss] HowTo: UPS + ZFS & NFS + no fsync

2007-04-26 Thread Wee Yeh Tan
Robert, On 4/27/07, Robert Milkowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello Wee, Thursday, April 26, 2007, 4:21:00 PM, you wrote: WYT> On 4/26/07, cedric briner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> okay let'say that it is not. :) >> Imagine that I setup a box: >> - with Solaris >> - with many HDs (dire

Re[2]: [zfs-discuss] HowTo: UPS + ZFS & NFS + no fsync

2007-04-26 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Wee, Thursday, April 26, 2007, 4:21:00 PM, you wrote: WYT> On 4/26/07, cedric briner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> okay let'say that it is not. :) >> Imagine that I setup a box: >> - with Solaris >> - with many HDs (directly attached). >> - use ZFS as the FS >> - export the Data wit

Re: [zfs-discuss] HowTo: UPS + ZFS & NFS + no fsync

2007-04-26 Thread Toby Thain
On 26-Apr-07, at 11:57 AM, cedric briner wrote: okay let'say that it is not. :) Imagine that I setup a box: - with Solaris - with many HDs (directly attached). - use ZFS as the FS - export the Data with NFS - on an UPS. Then after reading the : http://www.solarisinternals.com/wiki/in

Re: [zfs-discuss] HowTo: UPS + ZFS & NFS + no fsync

2007-04-26 Thread Roch - PAE
cedric briner writes: > > You might set zil_disable to 1 (_then_ mount the fs to be > > shared). But you're still exposed to OS crashes; those would > > still corrupt your nfs clients. > > > > -r > > hello Roch, > > I've few questions > > 1) > from: >Shenanigans with ZFS flus

Re: [zfs-discuss] HowTo: UPS + ZFS & NFS + no fsync

2007-04-26 Thread Neil . Perrin
cedric briner wrote: You might set zil_disable to 1 (_then_ mount the fs to be shared). But you're still exposed to OS crashes; those would still corrupt your nfs clients. -r hello Roch, I've few questions 1) from: Shenanigans with ZFS flushing and intelligent arrays... http://blogs

Re: [zfs-discuss] HowTo: UPS + ZFS & NFS + no fsync

2007-04-26 Thread cedric briner
You might set zil_disable to 1 (_then_ mount the fs to be shared). But you're still exposed to OS crashes; those would still corrupt your nfs clients. -r hello Roch, I've few questions 1) from: Shenanigans with ZFS flushing and intelligent arrays... http://blogs.digitar.com/jjww/?itemid

Re: [zfs-discuss] HowTo: UPS + ZFS & NFS + no fsync

2007-04-26 Thread cedric briner
okay let'say that it is not. :) Imagine that I setup a box: - with Solaris - with many HDs (directly attached). - use ZFS as the FS - export the Data with NFS - on an UPS. Then after reading the : http://www.solarisinternals.com/wiki/index.php/ZFS_Best_Practices_Guide#ZFS_and_Complex_St

Re: [zfs-discuss] HowTo: UPS + ZFS & NFS + no fsync

2007-04-26 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 4/26/07, Roch - PAE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You might set zil_disable to 1 (_then_ mount the fs to be shared). But you're still exposed to OS crashes; those would still corrupt your nfs clients. For the love of God do NOT do stuff like that. Just create ZFS on a pile of disks the way t

Re: [zfs-discuss] HowTo: UPS + ZFS & NFS + no fsync

2007-04-26 Thread Roch - PAE
You might set zil_disable to 1 (_then_ mount the fs to be shared). But you're still exposed to OS crashes; those would still corrupt your nfs clients. -r cedric briner writes: > Hello, > > I wonder if the subject of this email is not self-explanetory ? > > > okay let'say that it is no

Re: [zfs-discuss] HowTo: UPS + ZFS & NFS + no fsync

2007-04-26 Thread Wee Yeh Tan
On 4/26/07, cedric briner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: okay let'say that it is not. :) Imagine that I setup a box: - with Solaris - with many HDs (directly attached). - use ZFS as the FS - export the Data with NFS - on an UPS. Then after reading the : http://www.solarisinternals.com/wiki

[zfs-discuss] HowTo: UPS + ZFS & NFS + no fsync

2007-04-26 Thread cedric briner
Hello, I wonder if the subject of this email is not self-explanetory ? okay let'say that it is not. :) Imagine that I setup a box: - with Solaris - with many HDs (directly attached). - use ZFS as the FS - export the Data with NFS - on an UPS. Then after reading the : http://www.solarisin