Re: [zfs-discuss] Comments on green-bytes

2008-10-11 Thread Joerg Schilling
Boyd Adamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alas, it's not even as simple as that. The author of SQLite, D. Richard > Hipp, took this approach for reasons like those above. He's said[1] that > he wouldn't do it again, since there are problems for users in some > jurisdictions that have no concept of

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comments on green-bytes

2008-10-10 Thread Boyd Adamson
"David Dyer-Bennet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, October 7, 2008 09:19, Johan Hartzenberg wrote: > >> Wouldn't it be great if programmers could just focus on writing code >> rather than having to worry about getting sued over whether someone >> else is able or not to make a derivative prog

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comments on green-bytes

2008-10-10 Thread David Dyer-Bennet
On Tue, October 7, 2008 09:19, Johan Hartzenberg wrote: > Wouldn't it be great if programmers could just focus on writing code > rather > than having to worry about getting sued over whether someone else is able > or not to make a derivative program from their code? If that's what you want, it's

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comments on green-bytes

2008-10-07 Thread Wade . Stuart
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 10/07/2008 10:59:06 AM: > On Tue, 7 Oct 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>> > >> Wouldn't it be great if programmers could just focus on writing > >> code rather than having to worry about getting sued over whether > >> someone else is able or not to make a derivative p

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comments on green-bytes

2008-10-07 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Tue, 7 Oct 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> >> Wouldn't it be great if programmers could just focus on writing >> code rather than having to worry about getting sued over whether >> someone else is able or not to make a derivative program from their >> code? > > Yep, but in THIS world it *i

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comments on green-bytes

2008-10-07 Thread Joerg Schilling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Yes -- file based and derivative code based (copy covered code to a > new file and that file is now covered). New code in a new file is not > automatically covered and the authors choice. That said, if they have > added dedup to zfs they may have taken extraordin

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comments on green-bytes

2008-10-07 Thread Wade . Stuart
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 10/07/2008 07:15:46 AM: > Hello Wade, > > Monday, October 6, 2008, 8:56:12 PM, you wrote: > > WSfc> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 10/06/2008 01:57:10 PM: > > >> Hi all > >> > >> In another thread a short while ago.. A cool little movie with some > >> gumballs was all we got

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comments on green-bytes

2008-10-07 Thread Casper . Dik
>Some people wrote: > >> >> > covered code. Since Sun owns that code they would need to rattle the >> > cage. Sun? Anyone have any talks with these guys yet? >> >> Isn't CDDL file based so they could implement all the new functionality in >> >> >Wouldn't it be great if programmers could just f

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comments on green-bytes

2008-10-07 Thread Johan Hartzenberg
Some people wrote: > > > covered code. Since Sun owns that code they would need to rattle the > > cage. Sun? Anyone have any talks with these guys yet? > > Isn't CDDL file based so they could implement all the new functionality in > > Wouldn't it be great if programmers could just focus on writ

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comments on green-bytes

2008-10-07 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Wade, Monday, October 6, 2008, 8:56:12 PM, you wrote: WSfc> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 10/06/2008 01:57:10 PM: >> Hi all >> >> In another thread a short while ago.. A cool little movie with some >> gumballs was all we got to learn about green-bytes. The product >> launched and maybe some

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comments on green-bytes

2008-10-07 Thread C. Bergström
Joerg Schilling wrote: > Tim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> ZFS is licensed under the CDDL, and as far as I know does not require >> derivative works to be open source. It's truly free like the BSD license in >> that companies can take CDDL code, modify it, and keep the content closed. >> Th

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comments on green-bytes

2008-10-06 Thread Joerg Schilling
Bob Friesenhahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The GPL is unfortunately missunderstood by most people. > > The GPL is missunderstood due the profusion of confusing technobabble > such as you provided in your explanation. If you don't understand it, just don't comment it ;-) Jörg -- EMail:[EM

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comments on green-bytes

2008-10-06 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Mon, 6 Oct 2008, Joerg Schilling wrote: >> While you may not like it, this isn't the GPL. > > The GPL is more free than many people may believe now ;-) > > The GPL is unfortunately missunderstood by most people. The GPL is missunderstood due the profusion of confusing technobabble such as you

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comments on green-bytes

2008-10-06 Thread Joerg Schilling
Tim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ZFS is licensed under the CDDL, and as far as I know does not require > derivative works to be open source. It's truly free like the BSD license in > that companies can take CDDL code, modify it, and keep the content closed. > They are not forced to share their co

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comments on green-bytes

2008-10-06 Thread Wade . Stuart
> On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 3:00 PM, "C. Bergström" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > Matt Aitkenhead wrote: > > I see that you have wasted no time. I'm still determining if you > have a sincere interest in working with us or alternatively have an > axe to grind. The latter is shining through. > > > >

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comments on green-bytes

2008-10-06 Thread Rich Teer
On Mon, 6 Oct 2008, Tim wrote: > ZFS is licensed under the CDDL, and as far as I know does not require > derivative works to be open source. It's truly free like the BSD license in It doesn't, but changes made to CDDL-licensed files must be released (under the CDDL). > that companies can take C

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comments on green-bytes

2008-10-06 Thread Tim
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 3:00 PM, "C. Bergström" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Matt Aitkenhead wrote: > > I see that you have wasted no time. I'm still determining if you have a > sincere interest in working with us or alternatively have an axe to grind. > The latter is shining through. > > > > Regard

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comments on green-bytes

2008-10-06 Thread C. Bergström
Matt Aitkenhead wrote: > I see that you have wasted no time. I'm still determining if you have a > sincere interest in working with us or alternatively have an axe to grind. > The latter is shining through. > > Regards, > Matt > Hi Matt, I'd like to make our correspondence in public if you do

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comments on green-bytes

2008-10-06 Thread Wade . Stuart
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 10/06/2008 01:57:10 PM: > Hi all > > In another thread a short while ago.. A cool little movie with some > gumballs was all we got to learn about green-bytes. The product > launched and maybe some of the people that follow this list have had a > chance to take a look at

[zfs-discuss] Comments on green-bytes

2008-10-06 Thread C. Bergström
Hi all In another thread a short while ago.. A cool little movie with some gumballs was all we got to learn about green-bytes. The product launched and maybe some of the people that follow this list have had a chance to take a look at the code/product more closely? Wstuart asked how they wer