Re: [zfs-discuss] reliable, enterprise worthy JBODs?

2011-01-25 Thread Marc Nicholas
Rocky, Does DataON manufacture these units or they LSI OEM? -marc Sent from my iPhone 416.414.6271 On 2011-01-25, at 2:53 PM, Rocky Shek wrote: > Philip, > > You can consider DataON DNS-1600 4U 24Bay 6Gb/s SAS JBOD Storage. > http://dataonstorage.com/dataon-products/dns-1600-4u-6g-sas-to-sa

Re: [zfs-discuss] Ext. UPS-backed SATA SSD ZIL?

2010-11-27 Thread Marc Nicholas
That's a great deck, Chris. -marc Sent from my iPhone On 2010-11-27, at 10:34 AM, Christopher George wrote: >> I haven't had a chance to test a Vertex 2 PRO against my 2 EX, and I'd >> be interested if anyone else has. > > I recently presented at the OpenStorage Summit 2010 and compared > ex

Re: [zfs-discuss] Ideal SATA/SAS Controllers for ZFS

2010-05-18 Thread Marc Nicholas
Nice write-up, Marc. Aren't the SuperMicro cards their funny "UIO" form factor? Wouldn't want someone buying a card that won't work in a standard chassis. -marc On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 2:26 AM, Marc Bevand wrote: > The LSI SAS1064E slipped through the cracks when I built the list. > This is a

Re: [zfs-discuss] Loss of L2ARC SSD Behaviour

2010-05-06 Thread Marc Nicholas
Hi Michael, What makes you think striping the SSDs would be faster than round-robin? -marc On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 1:09 PM, Michael Sullivan wrote: > Everyone, > > Thanks for the help. I really appreciate it. > > Well, I actually walked through the source code with an associate today and > we

Re: [zfs-discuss] Loss of L2ARC SSD Behaviour

2010-05-04 Thread Marc Nicholas
The L2ARC will continue to function. -marc On 5/4/10, Michael Sullivan wrote: > HI, > > I have a question I cannot seem to find an answer to. > > I know I can set up a stripe of L2ARC SSD's with say, 4 SSD's. > > I know if I set up ZIL on SSD and the SSD goes bad, the the ZIL will be > relocated

Re: [zfs-discuss] Is file cloning anywhere on ZFS roadmap

2010-04-21 Thread Marc Nicholas
You'd run out of LUN IDs on the VMware side pretty quickly (255 from what I remember). It's also not really VMware best practice for block. -marc On 4/21/10, Robert Milkowski wrote: > On 21/04/2010 07:41, Schachar Levin wrote: >> Hi, >> We are currently using NetApp file clone option to clone m

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS where to go!

2010-03-26 Thread Marc Nicholas
Richard, My challenge to you is that at least three vedors that I know of built their storage platforms on FreeBSD. One of them sells $4bn/year of product - petty sure that eclipses all (Open)Solaris-based storage ;) -marc On 3/26/10, Richard Elling wrote: > On Mar 26, 2010, at 4:46 AM, Edward

Re: [zfs-discuss] Validating alignment of NTFS/VMDK/ZFS blocks

2010-03-18 Thread Marc Nicholas
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Chris Murray wrote: > Good evening, > I understand that NTFS & VMDK do not relate to Solaris or ZFS, but I was > wondering if anyone has any experience of checking the alignment of data > blocks through that stack? > NetApp has a great little tool called mbrscan/m

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can we get some documentation on iSCSI sharing after comstar took over?

2010-03-16 Thread Marc Nicholas
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Svein Skogen wrote: > > > I'll write you a Perl script :) > > > > I think there are ... several people that'd like a script that gave us > back some of the ease of the old shareiscsi one-off, instead of having > to spend time on copy-and-pasting GUIDs they have ..

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can we get some documentation on iSCSI sharing after comstar took over?

2010-03-16 Thread Marc Nicholas
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Svein Skogen wrote: > > > Not quite a one liner. After you create the target once (step 3), you do > not have to do that again for the next volume. So three lines. > > > So ... no way around messing with guid numbers? > > I'll write you a Perl script :) -marc ___

[zfs-discuss] [OT] Interesting ranking of MLC SSDs

2010-03-12 Thread Marc Nicholas
Given that quote a few folk ask "which is the best SSD?", I thought some folk might find the following interesting: http://www.storagenewsletter.com/news/flash/dramexchange-intel-ssds -marc P.S: Apologies if the slightly off-topic post offends anyone.

Re: [zfs-discuss] Freeing unused space in thin provisioned zvols

2010-02-26 Thread Marc Nicholas
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Lutz Schumann wrote: > > Now If a virtual machine writes to the zvol, blocks are allocated on disk. > Reads are now partial from disk (for all blocks written) and from ZFS layer > (all unwritten blocks). > > If the virtual machine (which may be vmware / xen / hyper

Re: [zfs-discuss] Recommendations for an l2arc device?

2010-02-26 Thread Marc Nicholas
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Brandon High wrote: > > The drives I'm considering are: > > OCZ Vertex 30GB > Intel X25V 40GB > Crucial CT64M225 64GB > Personally, I'd go with the Intel product...but save a few more pennies up and get the X-25M. The extra boost on read and write performance is

Re: [zfs-discuss] [indiana-discuss] future of OpenSolaris

2010-02-24 Thread Marc Nicholas
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Troy Campbell wrote: > > http://www.oracle.com/technology/community/sun-oracle-community-continuity.html > > Half way down it says: > Will Oracle support Java and OpenSolaris User Groups, as Sun has? > > Yes, Oracle will indeed enthusiastically support the Java Use

Re: [zfs-discuss] Import zpool from FreeBSD in OpenSolaris

2010-02-23 Thread Marc Nicholas
send and receive?! -marc On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 9:25 PM, Thomas Burgess wrote: > When i needed to do this, the only way i could get it to work was to do > this: > > Take some disks, use a Opensolaris Live CD and label them EFI > Create a ZPOOL in FreeBSD with these disks > copy my data from fr

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opensolaris 2010.03 / snv releases

2010-02-23 Thread Marc Nicholas
Isn't the dedupe bug fixed in svn133? -marc On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Jeffry Molanus wrote: > There is no clustering package for it and available source seems very old > also the de-dup bug is there iirc. So if you don't need HA cluster and > dedup.. > > BR, Jeffry > > > -Original Mes

Re: [zfs-discuss] Abysmal ISCSI / ZFS Performance

2010-02-18 Thread Marc Nicholas
Run Bonnie++. You can install it with the Sun package manger and it'll appear under /usr/benchmarks/bonnie++ Look for the command line I posted a couple of days back for a decent set of flags to truly rate performance (using sync writes). -marc On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Matt wrote: > Al

Re: [zfs-discuss] Abysmal ISCSI / ZFS Performance

2010-02-18 Thread Marc Nicholas
On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Matt wrote: > Here's IOStat while doing writes : > > r/sw/s kr/s kw/s wait actv wsvc_t asvc_t %w %b device >1.0 256.93.0 2242.9 0.3 0.11.30.5 11 12 c0t0d0 >0.0 253.90.0 2242.9 0.3 0.11.00.4 10 11 c0t1d0 >1.0

[zfs-discuss] Bonnie++ stats

2010-02-16 Thread Marc Nicholas
Anyone else got stats to share? Note: the below is 4*Caviar Black 500GB drives, 1*Intel x-25m setup as both ZIL and L2ARC, decent ASUS mobo, 2GB of fast RAM. -marc r...@opensolaris130:/tank/myfs# /usr/benchmarks/bonnie++/bonnie++ -u root -d /tank/myfs -f -b Using uid:0, gid:0. Writing intelligen

Re: [zfs-discuss] Abysmal ISCSI / ZFS Performance

2010-02-10 Thread Marc Nicholas
This is a Windows box, not a DB that flushes every write. The drives are capable of over 2000 IOPS (albeit with high latency as its NCQ that gets you there) which would mean, even with sync flushes, 8-9MB/sec. -marc On 2/10/10, Brent Jones wrote: > On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 3:12 PM, M

Re: [zfs-discuss] Abysmal ISCSI / ZFS Performance

2010-02-10 Thread Marc Nicholas
How does lowering the flush interval help? If he can't ingress data fast enough, faster flushing is a Bad Thibg(tm). -marc On 2/10/10, Kjetil Torgrim Homme wrote: > Bob Friesenhahn writes: >> On Wed, 10 Feb 2010, Frank Cusack wrote: >> >> The other three commonly mentioned issues are: >> >> -

Re: [zfs-discuss] Abysmal ISCSI / ZFS Performance

2010-02-10 Thread Marc Nicholas
Definitely use Comstar as Tim says. At home I'm using 4*WD Caviar Blacks on an AMD Phenom x4 @ 1.Ghz and only 2GB of RAM. I'm running svn132. No HBA - onboard SB700 SATA ports.$ I can, with IOmeter, saturate GigE from my WinXP laptop via iSCSI. Can you toss the RAID controller aside an use mothe

Re: [zfs-discuss] Impact of an enterprise class SSD on ZIL performance

2010-02-04 Thread Marc Nicholas
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 10:35 PM, Bob Friesenhahn < bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us> wrote: > On Thu, 4 Feb 2010, Marc Nicholas wrote: > >> >> The write IOPS between the X25-M and the X25-E are different since with >> the X25-M, much >> more of your data gets com

Re: [zfs-discuss] Impact of an enterprise class SSD on ZIL performance

2010-02-04 Thread Marc Nicholas
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 10:18 PM, Bob Friesenhahn < bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us> wrote: > On Thu, 4 Feb 2010, Marc Nicholas wrote: > > Very interesting stats -- thanks for taking the time and trouble to share >> them! >> >> One thing I found interesting is that

Re: [zfs-discuss] Cores vs. Speed?

2010-02-04 Thread Marc Nicholas
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 7:54 PM, Brian wrote: > It sounds like the consensus is more cores over clock speed. Surprising to > me since the difference in clocks speed was over 1Ghz. So, I will go with a > quad core. > Four cores @ 1.8Ghz = 7.2Ghz of threaded performance ([Open]Solaris is relative

Re: [zfs-discuss] Impact of an enterprise class SSD on ZIL performance

2010-02-04 Thread Marc Nicholas
Very interesting stats -- thanks for taking the time and trouble to share them! One thing I found interesting is that the Gen 2 X25-M has higher write IOPS than the X25-E according to Intel's documentation (6,600 IOPS for 4K writes versus 3,300 IOPS for 4K writes on the "E"). I wonder if it'd perf

Re: [zfs-discuss] Cores vs. Speed?

2010-02-04 Thread Marc Nicholas
I would go with cores (threads) rather than clock speed here. My home system is a 4-core AMD @ 1.8Ghz and performs well. I wouldn't use drives that big and you should be aware of the overheads of RaidZ[x]. -marc On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 6:19 PM, Brian wrote: > I am Starting to put together a h

Re: [zfs-discuss] Best 1.5TB drives for consumer RAID?

2010-02-04 Thread Marc Nicholas
I think you'll do just fine then. And I think the extra platter will work to your advantage. -marc On 2/3/10, Simon Breden wrote: > Probably 6 in a RAID-Z2 vdev. > > Cheers, > Simon > -- > This message posted from opensolaris.org > ___ > zfs-discuss ma

Re: [zfs-discuss] Best 1.5TB drives for consumer RAID?

2010-02-03 Thread Marc Nicholas
As I previously mentioned, I'm pretty happy with the 500GB Caviar Blacks that I have :) One word of caution: failure and rebuild times with 1TB+ drives can be a concern. How many spindles were you planning? -marc On 2/3/10, Simon Breden wrote: > Sounds good. > > I was taking a look at the 1TB C

Re: [zfs-discuss] verging OT: how to buy J4500 w/o overpriced drives

2010-02-02 Thread Marc Nicholas
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Toby Thain wrote: > > On 2-Feb-10, at 1:54 PM, Orvar Korvar wrote: > > 100% uptime for 20 years? >> >> So what makes OpenVMS so much more stable than Unix? What is the >> difference? >> > > > The short answer is that uptimes like that are VMS *cluster* uptimes. >

Re: [zfs-discuss] verging OT: how to buy J4500 w/o overpriced drives

2010-02-02 Thread Marc Nicholas
I believe magical unicorn controllers and drives are both bug-free and 100% spec compliant. The leprichorns sell them if you're trying to find them ;) -marc On 2/2/10, David Magda wrote: > On Feb 2, 2010, at 15:21, Tim Cook wrote: > >> How exactly do you suggest the drive manufacturers make thei

Re: [zfs-discuss] Best 1.5TB drives for consumer RAID?

2010-02-02 Thread Marc Nicholas
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Frank Cusack wrote: > > That said, I doubt 2TB drives represent good value for a home user. > They WILL fail more frequently and as a home user you aren't likely > to be keeping multiple spares on hand to avoid warranty replacement > time. I'm having a hard time

Re: [zfs-discuss] verging OT: how to buy J4500 w/o overpriced drives

2010-02-02 Thread Marc Nicholas
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Peter Jeremy < peter.jer...@alcatel-lucent.com> wrote: > > OTOH, if I'm paying 10x the street drive price upfront, plus roughly > the street price annually in "support", I can save a fair amount of > money by just buying a pile of spare drives - when one fails, just

Re: [zfs-discuss] Best 1.5TB drives for consumer RAID?

2010-02-02 Thread Marc Nicholas
I'm running the 500GB models myself, but I wouldn't say they're overly noisyand I've been doing ZFS/iSCSI/IOMeter/Bonnie++ stress testing with them. They "whine" rather than "click" FYI. -marc On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 2:58 PM, Simon Breden wrote: > IIRC the Black range are meant to be the 'p

Re: [zfs-discuss] Best 1.5TB drives for consumer RAID?

2010-02-02 Thread Marc Nicholas
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Brandon High wrote: > On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 9:47 AM, Simon Breden wrote: > > Which consumer-priced 1.5TB drives do people currently recommend? > > I happened to be looking at the Hitachi product information, and > noticed that the Deskstar 7K2000 appears to be s

Re: [zfs-discuss] verging OT: how to buy J4500 w/o overpriced drives

2010-02-02 Thread Marc Nicholas
I agree wholeheartedlyyou're paying to make the problem "go away" in an expedient manner. That said, I see how much we spend on NetApp storage at work and it makes me shudder ;) I think someone was wondering if the large storage vendors have their own microcode on drives? I can tell you that N