Re: [zfs-discuss] how to know available disk space

2013-02-06 Thread Gregg Wonderly
This is one of the greatest annoyances of ZFS. I don't really understand how, a zvol's space can not be accurately enumerated from top to bottom of the tree in 'df' output etc. Why does a "zvol" divorce the space used from the root of the volume? Gregg Wonder

Re: [zfs-discuss] pool metadata has duplicate children

2013-01-08 Thread Gregg Wonderly
Have you tried importing the pool with that drive completely unplugged? Which HBA are you using? How many of these disks are on same or separate HBAs? Gregg Wonderly On Jan 8, 2013, at 12:05 PM, John Giannandrea wrote: > > I seem to have managed to end up with a pool that is confuse

Re: [zfs-discuss] suggestions for e-SATA HBA card on x86/x64

2012-11-20 Thread Gregg Wonderly
am running an up-to-date version of OpenIndiana b151a7. > > Thank you, > > Jerry > > > > > On 10/26/12 10:02 AM, Gregg Wonderly wrote: >> I've been using this card >> >> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816117157 >> >>

Re: [zfs-discuss] Forcing ZFS options

2012-11-09 Thread Gregg Wonderly
wouldn't have to figure out how to do the reboot shuffle. Instead, you could just shuffle the symlinks. Gregg Wonderly On Nov 9, 2012, at 10:47 AM, Jim Klimov wrote: > There are times when ZFS options can not be applied at the moment, > i.e. changing desired mountpoints of active file

Re: [zfs-discuss] suggestions for e-SATA HBA card on x86/x64

2012-10-26 Thread Gregg Wonderly
I've been using this card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816117157 for my Solaris/Open Indiana installations because it has 8 ports. One of the issues that this card seems to have, is that certain failures can cause other secondary problems in other drives on the same SA

Re: [zfs-discuss] cannot replace X with Y: devices have different sector alignment

2012-09-24 Thread Gregg Wonderly
What is the error message you are seeing on the "replace"? This sounds like a slice size/placement problem, but clearly, prtvtoc seems to think that everything is the same. Are you certain that you did prtvtoc on the correct drive, and not one of the active disks by mistake? Greg

Re: [zfs-discuss] deleting a link in ZFS

2012-08-28 Thread Gregg Wonderly
On Aug 28, 2012, at 6:01 AM, Murray Cullen wrote: > I've copied an old home directory from an install of OS 134 to the data pool > on my OI install. Opensolaris apparently had wine installed as I now have a > link to / in my data pool. I've tried everything I can think of to remove > this lin

Re: [zfs-discuss] unable to import the zpool

2012-08-02 Thread GREGG WONDERLY
till complaining about a missing device. The older OS and ZFS version may in fact have a misbehavior due to some error condition not being correctly managed. Gregg Wonderly On Aug 2, 2012, at 4:49 PM, Richard Elling wrote: > > On Aug 1, 2012, at 12:21 AM, Suresh Kumar wrote: > &g

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can the ZFS "copies" attribute substitute HW disk redundancy?

2012-07-30 Thread GREGG WONDERLY
ability... > > "copies" might be on the same disk. So it's not guaranteed to help if you > have a disk failure. I thought I understood that copies would not be on the same disk, I guess I need to go read up on this again. Gregg Wonderly _

Re: [zfs-discuss] stop "sparing" process

2012-07-28 Thread GREGG WONDERLY
a GUI was present or not, it should log the data to syslog. That would make it much more nice to use ZFS so that admins could always take action on multiple pools and devices without being burdened by the constant problems with failing devices locking you out of system administration activit

Re: [zfs-discuss] New fast hash algorithm - is it needed?

2012-07-11 Thread Gregg Wonderly
On Jul 11, 2012, at 12:06 PM, Sašo Kiselkov wrote: >> I say, in fact that the total number of unique patterns that can exist on >> any pool is small, compared to the total, illustrating that I understand how >> the key space for the algorithm is small when looking at a ZFS pool, and >> thus co

Re: [zfs-discuss] New fast hash algorithm - is it needed?

2012-07-11 Thread Gregg Wonderly
, 2012, at 11:02 AM, Sašo Kiselkov wrote: > On 07/11/2012 05:58 PM, Gregg Wonderly wrote: >> You're entirely sure that there could never be two different blocks that can >> hash to the same value and have different content? >> >> Wow, can you just send me the

Re: [zfs-discuss] New fast hash algorithm - is it needed?

2012-07-11 Thread Gregg Wonderly
You're entirely sure that there could never be two different blocks that can hash to the same value and have different content? Wow, can you just send me the cash now and we'll call it even? Gregg On Jul 11, 2012, at 9:59 AM, Sašo Kiselkov wrote: > On 07/11/2012 04:56 PM, Gregg W

Re: [zfs-discuss] New fast hash algorithm - is it needed?

2012-07-11 Thread Gregg Wonderly
I'm just suggesting that the "time frame" of when 256-bits or 512-bits is less safe, is closing faster than one might actually think, because social elements of the internet allow a lot more effort to be focused on a single "problem" than one might consider. Gregg

Re: [zfs-discuss] New fast hash algorithm - is it needed?

2012-07-11 Thread Gregg Wonderly
magnitude, would you be okay with that? What assurances would you be content with using my ZFS pool? Gregg Wonderly On Jul 11, 2012, at 9:43 AM, Sašo Kiselkov wrote: > On 07/11/2012 04:30 PM, Gregg Wonderly wrote: >> This is exactly the issue for me. It's vital to always have verify o

Re: [zfs-discuss] New fast hash algorithm - is it needed?

2012-07-11 Thread Gregg Wonderly
Yes, but from the other angle, the number of unique 128K blocks that you can store on your ZFS pool, is actually finitely small, compared to the total space. So the patterns you need to actually consider is not more than the physical limits of the universe. Gregg Wonderly On Jul 11, 2012, at

Re: [zfs-discuss] New fast hash algorithm - is it needed?

2012-07-11 Thread Gregg Wonderly
" is not necessary? That just seems ridiculous to propose. Gregg Wonderly On Jul 11, 2012, at 9:22 AM, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: > On Wed, 11 Jul 2012, Sašo Kiselkov wrote: >> the hash isn't used for security purposes. We only need something that's >> fast and has

Re: [zfs-discuss] New fast hash algorithm - is it needed?

2012-07-11 Thread Gregg Wonderly
me thought into how to approach the problem, and then some time to do the computations. Huge space, but still finite… Gregg Wonderly On Jul 11, 2012, at 9:13 AM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: >> From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- >> boun...@opensolaris.org]

Re: [zfs-discuss] New fast hash algorithm - is it needed?

2012-07-11 Thread Gregg Wonderly
ng based on the theory of the algorithms for "random" number of bits is just silly. Where's the real data that tells us what we need to know? Gregg Wonderly On Jul 11, 2012, at 9:02 AM, Sašo Kiselkov wrote: > On 07/11/2012 03:57 PM, Gregg Wonderly wrote: >> Since there i

Re: [zfs-discuss] New fast hash algorithm - is it needed?

2012-07-11 Thread Gregg Wonderly
e the win? Gregg Wonderly On Jul 11, 2012, at 5:56 AM, Sašo Kiselkov wrote: > On 07/11/2012 12:24 PM, Justin Stringfellow wrote: >>> Suppose you find a weakness in a specific hash algorithm; you use this >>> to create hash collisions and now imagined you store the hash collis

Re: [zfs-discuss] Recovery of RAIDZ with broken label(s)

2012-06-16 Thread Gregg Wonderly
On Jun 16, 2012, at 10:13 AM, Scott Aitken wrote: > On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 09:58:40AM -0500, Gregg Wonderly wrote: >> >> On Jun 16, 2012, at 9:49 AM, Scott Aitken wrote: >> >>> On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 09:09:53AM -0500, Gregg Wonderly wrote: >>>> Use

Re: [zfs-discuss] Recovery of RAIDZ with broken label(s)

2012-06-16 Thread Gregg Wonderly
On Jun 16, 2012, at 9:49 AM, Scott Aitken wrote: > On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 09:09:53AM -0500, Gregg Wonderly wrote: >> Use 'dd' to replicate as much of lofi/2 as you can onto another device, and >> then >> cable that into place? >> >> It looks like

Re: [zfs-discuss] Recovery of RAIDZ with broken label(s)

2012-06-16 Thread Gregg Wonderly
nto the pool perhaps? Gregg Wonderly On 6/16/2012 2:02 AM, Scott Aitken wrote: On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 08:54:05AM +0200, Stefan Ring wrote: when you say remove the device, I assume you mean simply make it unavailable for import (I can't remove it from the vdev). Yes, that's what I mea

Re: [zfs-discuss] What is your data error rate?

2012-01-24 Thread Gregg Wonderly
d performance and/or data loss much more often. Gregg Wonderly On 1/24/2012 9:50 AM, Stefan Ring wrote: After having read this mailing list for a little while, I get the impression that there are at least some people who regularly experience on-disk corruption that ZFS should be able to report a

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can I create a mirror for a root rpool?

2011-12-20 Thread Gregg Wonderly
high, it's not "simple" to pick up a couple of more spares to have on hand. For my Root pool, I had only no remaining 250GB disks that I've been using for root.So, I put in one of my 1.5TB spares for the moment, until I decide whether or not to order a new small drive. On Mon,

Re: [zfs-discuss] Very poor pool performance - no zfs/controller errors?!

2011-12-19 Thread Gregg Wonderly
t can't be corrected by re-reading enough times. It looks like you've started mirroring some of the drives. That's really what you should be doing for the other non-mirror drives. Gregg Wonderly ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-dis

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can I create a mirror for a root rpool?

2011-12-19 Thread Gregg Wonderly
ngle large partition. The attached mirror doesn't have to be the same size as the first component. On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 11:27 PM, Gregg Wonderly <mailto:gregg...@gmail.com>> wrote: Cindy, will it ever be possible to just have attach mirror the surfaces, including the

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can I create a mirror for a root rpool?

2011-12-16 Thread Gregg Wonderly
nistration. I'm very nervous when I have a simplex filesystem setting there, and when a disk has "died", I'm doubly nervous that the other half is going to fall over. I'm not trying to be hard nosed about this, I'm just trying to share my angst and frustration

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can I create a mirror for a root rpool?

2011-12-15 Thread Gregg Wonderly
Cindy, will it ever be possible to just have attach mirror the surfaces, including the partition tables? I spent an hour today trying to get a new mirror on my root pool. There was a 250GB disk that failed. I only had a 1.5TB handy as a replacement. prtvtoc ... | fmthard does not work in thi

Re: [zfs-discuss] grrr, How to get rid of mis-touched file named `-c'

2011-11-28 Thread Gregg Wonderly
t by now I just want to know how it might be done from a shell prompt. rm ./-c ./-O ./-k And many versions of getopt support the use of -- as the "end of options" indicator so that you can do rm -- -c -O -k to remove those as well. Gregg Wonderly ___

Re: [zfs-discuss] how to set up solaris os and cache within one SSD

2011-11-16 Thread Gregg Wonderly
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Re: [zfs-discuss] Data distribution not even between vdevs

2011-11-09 Thread Gregg Wonderly
k perfectly to allow pools to have disk sets removed. It would provide the needed basic mechanism of just moving stuff around to eliminate the use of a particular part of the pool that you wanted to remove. Gregg Wonderly ___ zfs-discuss mail

[zfs-discuss] Lycom has lots of hardware that looks interesting, is it supported

2010-01-14 Thread Gregg Wonderly
I've been building a few 6disk boxes for VirtualBox servers, and I am also surveying how I will add more disks as these boxes need it. Looking around on the HCL, I see the Lycom PE-103 is supported. That's just 2 more disks, I'm typically going to want to add a raid-z w/spare to my zpools, so