Re: [zfs-discuss] S11 vs illumos zfs compatiblity

2012-12-14 Thread bob netherton
On 12/14/12 10:07 AM, Edward Ned Harvey (opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris) wrote: Is that right? You can't use zfs send | zfs receive to send from a newer version and receive on an older version? No. You can, with recv, override any property in the sending stream that can be set from t

Re: [zfs-discuss] S11 vs illumos zfs compatiblity

2012-12-13 Thread Bob Netherton
at 12:54 PM, Jan Owoc wrote: > On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Bob Netherton > wrote: >> On Dec 13, 2012, at 10:47 AM, Jan Owoc wrote: >>> Yes, that is correct. The last version of Solaris with source code >>> used zpool version 28. This is the last version

Re: [zfs-discuss] S11 vs illumos zfs compatiblity

2012-12-13 Thread Bob Netherton
at's what I did yesterday :) Bob Sent from my iPhone On Dec 13, 2012, at 12:54 PM, Jan Owoc wrote: > On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Bob Netherton > wrote: >> On Dec 13, 2012, at 10:47 AM, Jan Owoc wrote: >>> Yes, that is correct. The last version of Solaris with sourc

Re: [zfs-discuss] S11 vs illumos zfs compatiblity

2012-12-13 Thread Bob Netherton
That is a touch misleading. This has always been the case since S10u2. You have to create the pool AND the file systems at the oldest versions you want to support. I maintain a table of pool and version numbers on my blog (blogs.oracle. com/bobn) for this very purpose. I got lazy the othe

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs_arc_max values

2012-05-17 Thread Bob Netherton
I'll agree with Bob on this. A specific use case is a VirtualBox server hosting lots of guests. I even made a point of mentioning this tunable in the Solaris 10 Virtualization Essentials section on vbox :) There are several other use cases as well. Bob Bob Sent from my iPad On May 17, 20

Re: [zfs-discuss] About ZFS compatibility

2009-05-20 Thread bob netherton
zhihui Chen wrote: I have created a pool on external storage with B114. Then I export this pool and import it on another system with B110.But this import will fail and show error: cannot import 'tpool': pool is formatted using a newer ZFS version. Any big change in ZFS with B114 leads to this co

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS/zpool Versions in Solaris 10

2009-04-21 Thread bob netherton
since I am trying to keep my pools at a version that different updates can handle, I personally am glad it did not get rev'ed. I did get into trouble recently that SX-CE 112 created a file system on an old pool with a version newer than Solaris 10 likes :( -o is your best friend ;-)I

Re: [zfs-discuss] How to increase rpool size in a VM?

2009-03-26 Thread bob netherton
Bob Doolittle wrote: Blake wrote: You need to use 'installgrub' to get the right boot pits in place on your new disk. I did that, but it didn't help. I ran: installgrub /boot/grub/stage1 /boot/grub/stage2 /dev/rdsk/c4t1d0s0 Is it OK to run this before resilvering has completed? You need

Re: [zfs-discuss] GSoC 09 zfs ideas?

2009-02-28 Thread Bob Netherton
> Multiple pools on one server only makes sense if you are going to have > different RAS for each pool for business reasons. It's a lot easier to > have a single pool though. I recommend it. A couple of other things to consider to go with that recommendation. - never build a pool larger than y

Re: [zfs-discuss] Virutal zfs server vs hardware zfs server

2009-02-27 Thread Bob Netherton
Bob is right. Less chance of failure perhaps but also less protection. I don't like it when my storage lies to me :) Bob Sent from my iPhone On Feb 27, 2009, at 12:48 PM, Bob Friesenhahn > wrote: On Fri, 27 Feb 2009, Blake wrote: SinceZFS is trying to checksum blocks, the fewer abstract

Re: [zfs-discuss] Noob: Best way to replace a disk when you're out of internal connectors?

2008-12-30 Thread Bob Netherton
> I am a bit slow today. It seems like a dying drive should be replaced > ASAP. Completely agree with Bob on this. I drive an 8.000lb truck and the tires have industrial strength runflats. If I get a puncture or tear in a tire I replace it as soon as I can, not when it is convenient. The r

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpol mirror creation after non-mirrored zpool is setup

2008-12-14 Thread Bob Netherton
Jeff Bonwick wrote: > On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 04:44:10PM -0800, Mark Dornfeld wrote: >> I have installed Solaris 10 on a ZFS filesystem that is not mirrored. Since >> I have an identical disk in the machine, I'd like to add that disk to the >> existing pool as a mirror. Can this be done, and if

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS fragmentation with MySQL databases

2008-11-23 Thread Bob Netherton
> This argument can be proven by basic statistics without need to resort > to actual testing. Mathematical proof <> reality of how things end up getting used. > Luckily, most data access is not completely random in nature. Which was my point exactly. I've never seen a purely mathematical mod

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS fragmentation with MySQL databases

2008-11-22 Thread Bob Netherton
> In other words, for random access across a working set larger (by say X%) > than the SSD-backed L2 ARC, the cache is useless. This should asymptotically > approach truth as X grows and experience shows that X=200% is where it's > about 99% true. > Ummm, before we throw around phrases like

Re: [zfs-discuss] copies set to greater than 1

2008-11-06 Thread Bob Netherton
On Thu, 2008-11-06 at 19:54 -0500, Krzys wrote: > WHen property value copies is set to value greater than 1 how does it work? > Will > it store second copy of data on different disk? or does it store it on the > same > disk? Also when this setting is changed at some point on file system, will i

Re: [zfs-discuss] Shared ZFS in Multi-boot?

2008-08-09 Thread Bob Netherton
> Bob, is there any specific reason why you suggest the creation of a > bunch of zfs datasets up front? Absolutely. ZFS filesystems created on too new of a Nevada/OpenSolaris will not be mountable on Solaris 10. One of the SMF services, filesystem/local perhaps will go into maintenance and you

Re: [zfs-discuss] Shared ZFS in Multi-boot?

2008-08-07 Thread Bob Netherton
On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 09:16 -0700, Daniel Templeton wrote: > Is there a way that I can add the disk to a ZFS pool and have > the ZFS pool accessible to all of the OS instances? I poked through the > docs and searched around a bit, but I couldn't find anything on the topic. Yes. I do that all o

Re: [zfs-discuss] Checksum error: which of my files have failed scrubbing?

2008-08-05 Thread Bob Netherton
soren wrote: > ZFS has detected that my root filesystem has a small number of errors. Is > there a way to tell which specific files have been corrupted? > After a scrub a zpool status -v should give you a list of files with unrecoverable errors. Bob _

Re: [zfs-discuss] help me....

2008-08-03 Thread Bob Netherton
On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 20:46 -0700, Rahul wrote: > hi > can you give some disadvantages of the ZFS file system?? In what context ? Relative to what ? Bob ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/l

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can I trust ZFS?

2008-07-31 Thread Bob Netherton
> We haven't had any "real life" drive failures at work, but at home I > took some old flaky IDE drives and put them in a pentium 3 box running > Nevada. Similar story here. Some IDE and SATA drive burps under Linux (and please don't tell me how wonderful Reiser4 is - 'cause it's banned in this

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can I trust ZFS?

2008-07-31 Thread Bob Netherton
On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 13:25 -0700, Ross wrote: > Hey folks, > > I guess this is an odd question to be asking here, but I could do with some > feedback from anybody who's actually using ZFS in anger. ZFS in anger ? That's an interesting way of putting it :-) > but I have some real concerns abo

Re: [zfs-discuss] SXCE build 90 vs S10U6?

2008-06-13 Thread Bob Netherton
> I want to > start testing out ZFS boot and zfs allow to minimize the delay between the > release of U6 and my production deployment. Good observation. I mention this in every Solaris briefing that I do. Get some stick time with this capability using SXCE or OpenSolaris so that you can reduce

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs mount fails - directory not empty

2008-03-11 Thread Bob Netherton
On Mon, 2008-03-10 at 15:19 +0800, Wee Yeh Tan wrote: > Bob, > > Are you sure that /pandora is mounted? Now that you ask, not sure. It shows as mounted but there is no data in there other than the mountpoints for the other children filesystems. > zpool:pandora when /pandora is not empty. I n

[zfs-discuss] zfs mount fails - directory not empty

2008-03-08 Thread Bob Netherton
Multi-boot system (s10u3, s10u4, and nevada84) having problems mounting ZFS filesystems at boot time. The pool is s10u3 are are most of the filesystems. A few of the filesystems are nevada83. # zfs mount -a cannot mount '/pandora': directory is not empty # zfs list -o name,mountpoint NAME

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: How does ZFS write data to disks?

2007-05-11 Thread Bob Netherton
On Fri, 2007-05-11 at 09:00 -0700, lonny wrote: > I've noticed a similar behavior in my writes. ZFS seems to write in bursts of > around 5 seconds. I assume it's just something to do with caching? Yep - the ZFS equivalent of fsflush. Runs more often so the pipes don't get as clogged. We've ha