Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS on Dell with FreeBSD

2011-10-19 Thread Fajar A. Nugraha
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 7:56 AM, Dave Pooser wrote: > On 10/19/11 9:14 AM, "Albert Shih" wrote: > >>When we buy a MD1200 we need a RAID PERC H800 card on the server > > No, you need a card that includes 2 external x4 SFF8088 SAS connectors. > I'd recommend an LSI SAS 9200-8e HBA flashed with the

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS on Dell with FreeBSD

2011-10-19 Thread Rocky Shek
I also recommend LSI 9200-8E or new 9205-8E with the IT firmware based on past experience Also LSI Original HBA normally released FW earlier than OEM. Plus, most of users in community use LSI HBA. Rocky -Original Message- From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss-b

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS on Dell with FreeBSD

2011-10-19 Thread Dave Pooser
On 10/19/11 9:14 AM, "Albert Shih" wrote: >When we buy a MD1200 we need a RAID PERC H800 card on the server No, you need a card that includes 2 external x4 SFF8088 SAS connectors. I'd recommend an LSI SAS 9200-8e HBA flashed with the IT firmware-- then it presents the individual disks and ZFS ca

Re: [zfs-discuss] commercial zfs-based storage replication software?

2011-10-19 Thread Jim Klimov
2011-10-19 17:54, Fajar A. Nugraha пишет: On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Jim Klimov wrote: Well, just for the sake of completeness: most of our systems are using zfs-auto-snap service, including Solaris 10 systems datiing from Sol10u6. Installation of relevant packages from SXCE (ranging sn

Re: [zfs-discuss] about btrfs and zfs

2011-10-19 Thread Pawel Jakub Dawidek
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 10:13:56AM -0400, David Magda wrote: > On Wed, October 19, 2011 08:15, Pawel Jakub Dawidek wrote: > > > Fsck can only fix known file system inconsistencies in file system > > structures. Because there is no atomicity of operations in UFS and other > > file systems it is pos

Re: [zfs-discuss] about btrfs and zfs

2011-10-19 Thread Nico Williams
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 7:24 AM, Garrett D'Amore wrote: > I'd argue that from a *developer* point of view, an fsck tool for ZFS might > well be useful.  Isn't that what zdb is for? :-) > > But ordinary administrative users should never need something like this, > unless they have encountered a b

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS on Dell with FreeBSD

2011-10-19 Thread Krunal Desai
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Albert Shih wrote: > When we buy a MD1200 we need a RAID PERC H800 card on the server so we have > two options : > >        1/ create a LV on the PERC H800 so the server see one volume and put >        the zpool on this unique volume and let the hardware manage th

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS on Dell with FreeBSD

2011-10-19 Thread Jorge Medina
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Albert Shih wrote: > Hi > > Sorry to cross-posting. I don't knwon which mailing-list I should post this > message. > > I'll would like to use FreeBSD with ZFS on some Dell server with some > MD1200 (classique DAS). > > When we buy a MD1200 we need a RAID PERC H800

Re: [zfs-discuss] repair [was: about btrfs and zfs]

2011-10-19 Thread Garrett D'Amore
On Oct 19, 2011, at 1:52 PM, Richard Elling wrote: > On Oct 18, 2011, at 5:21 PM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: > >>> From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- >>> boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Tim Cook >>> >>> I had and have redundant storage, it has *NEVER* automatical

Re: [zfs-discuss] about btrfs and zfs

2011-10-19 Thread Garrett D'Amore
I'd argue that from a *developer* point of view, an fsck tool for ZFS might well be useful. Isn't that what zdb is for? :-) But ordinary administrative users should never need something like this, unless they have encountered a bug in ZFS itself. (And bugs are as likely to exist in the checke

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS on Dell with FreeBSD

2011-10-19 Thread Darren J Moffat
On 10/19/11 15:30, Fajar A. Nugraha wrote: On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 9:14 PM, Albert Shih wrote: Hi Sorry to cross-posting. I don't knwon which mailing-list I should post this message. I'll would like to use FreeBSD with ZFS on some Dell server with some MD1200 (classique DAS). When we buy a M

Re: [zfs-discuss] about btrfs and zfs

2011-10-19 Thread Brian Wilson
On 10/18/11 03:31 PM, Tim Cook wrote: On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Peter Tribble mailto:peter.trib...@gmail.com>> wrote: On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 9:12 PM, Tim Cook mailto:t...@cook.ms>> wrote: > > > On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Peter Tribble mailto:peter.trib...@gm

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS on Dell with FreeBSD

2011-10-19 Thread Fajar A. Nugraha
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 9:14 PM, Albert Shih wrote: > Hi > > Sorry to cross-posting. I don't knwon which mailing-list I should post this > message. > > I'll would like to use FreeBSD with ZFS on some Dell server with some > MD1200 (classique DAS). > > When we buy a MD1200 we need a RAID PERC H800

[zfs-discuss] ZFS on Dell with FreeBSD

2011-10-19 Thread Albert Shih
Hi Sorry to cross-posting. I don't knwon which mailing-list I should post this message. I'll would like to use FreeBSD with ZFS on some Dell server with some MD1200 (classique DAS). When we buy a MD1200 we need a RAID PERC H800 card on the server so we have two options : 1/ create a

Re: [zfs-discuss] about btrfs and zfs

2011-10-19 Thread David Magda
On Wed, October 19, 2011 08:15, Pawel Jakub Dawidek wrote: > Fsck can only fix known file system inconsistencies in file system > structures. Because there is no atomicity of operations in UFS and other > file systems it is possible that when you remove a file, your system can > crash between remo

Re: [zfs-discuss] commercial zfs-based storage replication software?

2011-10-19 Thread Fajar A. Nugraha
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Jim Klimov wrote: > 2011-10-13 13:27, Darren J Moffat пишет: >> >> On 10/13/11 09:27, Fajar A. Nugraha wrote: >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 5:26 PM, Darren J Moffat >>> wrote: Have you looked at the time-slider functionality that is already in Sol

Re: [zfs-discuss] bootadm hang WAS tuning zfs_arc_min

2011-10-19 Thread Jim Klimov
2011-10-12 11:56, Frank Van Damme пишет: The root of the problem seems to be that that process never completes. 9 /lib/svc/bin/svc.startd 332 /sbin/sh /lib/svc/method/boot-archive-update 347 /sbin/bootadm update-archive Can't kill it and run from the cmdline either, it simply ignores SIGKILL.

Re: [zfs-discuss] about btrfs and zfs

2011-10-19 Thread Paul Kraus
Thank you. The following is the best "layman's" explanation as to _why_ ZFS does not have an fsck equivalent (or even needs one). On the other hand, there are situations where you really do need to force ZFS to do something that may not be a"good idea", but is the best of a bad set of choices. Henc

Re: [zfs-discuss] commercial zfs-based storage replication software?

2011-10-19 Thread Jim Klimov
2011-10-13 13:27, Darren J Moffat пишет: On 10/13/11 09:27, Fajar A. Nugraha wrote: On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 5:26 PM, Darren J Moffat wrote: Have you looked at the time-slider functionality that is already in Solaris ? Hi Darren. Is it available for Solaris 10? I just installed Solaris 10 u1

[zfs-discuss] Growing CKSUM errors with no READ/WRITE errors

2011-10-19 Thread Jim Klimov
2011-10-19 16:01, Richard Elling пишет: On Oct 18, 2011, at 6:35 PM, David Magda wrote: If we've found one bad disk, what are our options? Live with it or replace it :-) -- richard Similar question: a HDD went awry last week in an snv_117 box (the controller no longer sees the drive - so I

Re: [zfs-discuss] repair [was: about btrfs and zfs]

2011-10-19 Thread Jim Klimov
2011-10-19 15:52, Richard Elling пишет: In the archives, you can find reports of recoverable and unrecoverable errors attributed to: ... Ah, yes, and 11. Faulty disk cabling (i.e. plastic connectors that soften with heat and fall of) - that has happened to cause strange behavior as well ;) Even

Re: [zfs-discuss] repair [was: about btrfs and zfs]

2011-10-19 Thread Jim Klimov
2011-10-19 15:52, Richard Elling wrote: In the archives, you can find reports of recoverable and unrecoverable errors attributed to: 1. ZFS software (rare, but a bug a few years ago mishandled a raidz case) 2. SAN switch firmware 3. "Hardware" RAID array firmware

Re: [zfs-discuss] about btrfs and zfs

2011-10-19 Thread Pawel Jakub Dawidek
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 08:40:59AM +1100, Peter Jeremy wrote: > fsck verifies the logical consistency of a filesystem. For UFS, this > includes: used data blocks are allocated to exactly one file, > directory entries point to valid inodes, allocated inodes have at > least one link, the number of l

Re: [zfs-discuss] about btrfs and zfs

2011-10-19 Thread Richard Elling
On Oct 18, 2011, at 6:35 PM, David Magda wrote: > If we've found one bad disk, what are our options? Live with it or replace it :-) -- richard -- ZFS and performance consulting http://www.RichardElling.com VMworld Copenhagen, October 17-20 OpenStorage Summit, San Jose, CA, October 24-27 LISA

[zfs-discuss] repair [was: about btrfs and zfs]

2011-10-19 Thread Richard Elling
On Oct 18, 2011, at 5:21 PM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: >> From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- >> boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Tim Cook >> >> I had and have redundant storage, it has *NEVER* automatically fixed >> it. You're the first person I've heard that has

[zfs-discuss] Stream versions in Solaris 10.

2011-10-19 Thread Ian Collins
I just tried sending from a oi151a system to a Solaris 10 backup server and the server barfed with zfs_receive: stream is unsupported version 17 I can't find any documentation linking stream version to release, so does anyone know the Update 10 stream version? -- Ian. _