Re: [zfs-discuss] Legality and the future of zfs...

2010-07-13 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
> From: Ian Collins [mailto:i...@ianshome.com] > > From: Edward Ned Harvey > > The sun hardware is the > > recommended way to go, but it's also more expensive. > > Not in my neck of the woods, Sun have always been most competitive. Interesting. I wonder what's different between you and me? I mo

Re: [zfs-discuss] Legality and the future of zfs...

2010-07-13 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
> From: BM [mailto:bogdan.maryn...@gmail.com] > > But don't forget that Oracle looks like killing OpenSolaris and entire > community > after all: there are no latest builds at genunix.org (latest is 134 and > seems > like that's it), Oracle stopped build OSOL after build 135 (I have no > idea wher

Re: [zfs-discuss] Legality and the future of zfs...

2010-07-13 Thread Ian Collins
On 07/14/10 04:20 PM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: Here's a really simple way to get some pricing information: Go to Dell.com. Servers. Servers. Rack. Enhanced. PowerEdge R710 (Customize.) You could pick any server that supports solaris. I just chose the R710 because I know it does. Operating

Re: [zfs-discuss] Legality and the future of zfs...

2010-07-13 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
> From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- > boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Dave Pooser > > I'm looking at a new web server for the company, and am considering > Solaris > specifically because of ZFS. (Oracle's lousy sales model-- specifically > the > unwillingness to

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs root flash archive issue

2010-07-13 Thread Ketan
Ok thanx will do that . -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] Legality and the future of zfs...

2010-07-13 Thread BM
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 11:40 PM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: > ZFS was the sole factor in my decision to buy a Sun server with solaris this > year, to replace my netapp.  In addition, I bought some dell machines and > paid for solaris on those, to keep around as backup destinations for the > product

Re: [zfs-discuss] Recovering from an apparent ZFS Hang

2010-07-13 Thread Brian Leonard
Actually, there's still the primary issue of this post - the apparent hang. At the moment, I have 3 zpool commands running, all apparently hung and doing nothing: bleon...@opensolaris:~$ ps -ef | grep zpool root 20465 20411 0 18:10:44 pts/4 0:00 zpool clear r5pool root 20408 2040

[zfs-discuss] ZFS Status Graph?

2010-07-13 Thread Beau J. Bechdol
One question I did have and it might be a stupid one. SO on this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CN6iDzesEs0&feature=related or this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGIwg6ye1gE What is the greenbars that is on the right of the projector screen? Thanks -Beau __

[zfs-discuss] question re how data is stored in L2ARC cache

2010-07-13 Thread Frederic Vander Elst
Hello, I'm using Nexenta and am impressed by allof the OpenSolaris, ZFS and Nexenta parts, thank you for feeing us of the RAID hole. Having created zvols in a pool (6 mirror sets, 2 SSDs for L2ARC), with compression turned on, I am now realising that the data stored in the L2ARC SSD is the '

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZIL SSD failed

2010-07-13 Thread Dmitry Sorokin
Hi Richard, What happened is this SSD gave some IO errors and the pool become degraded, so after the machine got rebooted, I found that the pool became unavailable. The SSD drive itself is toasted, as bios now reports it as 8 GB in size and name is "Inuem SS E Cootmoader!", so all the partitions

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs send/recv hanging in 2009.06

2010-07-13 Thread Ian Collins
On 07/14/10 03:55 AM, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: On Fri, July 9, 2010 16:49, BJ Quinn wrote: I have a couple of systems running 2009.06 that hang on relatively large zfs send/recv jobs. With the -v option, I see the snapshots coming across, and at some point the process just pauses, IO and CP

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS snapshot zvols/iscsi send backup

2010-07-13 Thread Gary Leong
Thanks for quick response. I appreciate it much. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZIL SSD failed

2010-07-13 Thread Miles Nordin
> "ds" == Dmitry Sorokin writes: ds> The SSD drive has failed and zpool is unavailable anymore. AIUI, 6733267 Allow a pool to be imported with a missing slog is only fixed for the case where the pool is still imported. If you export it without removing the slog first, the pool is los

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs send/recv hanging in 2009.06

2010-07-13 Thread BJ Quinn
I was going with the spring release myself, and finally got tired of waiting. Got to build some new servers. I don't believe you've missed anything. As I'm sure you know, it was originally officially 2010.02, then it was officially 2010.03, then it was rumored to be .04, sort of leaked as .0

Re: [zfs-discuss] [osol-help] ZFS list snapshots incurs large delay

2010-07-13 Thread Brent Jones
> > It could be a disk failing and dragging I/O down with it. > > Try to check for high asvc_t with `iostat -XCn 1` and errors in `iostat -En` > > Any timeouts or retries in /var/adm/messages ? > > -- > Giovanni Tirloni > gtirl...@sysdroid.com > I checked for high service times during a scrub, and

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs root flash archive issue

2010-07-13 Thread Lori Alt
The setting of the "content_architectures" field is likely to be independent of the file system type, so at least at first glance, I don't think that this is zfs issue. You might try this question at install-disc...@opensolaris.org. Lori On 07/13/10 11:45 AM, Ketan wrote: I have created

Re: [zfs-discuss] [osol-help] ZFS list snapshots incurs large delay

2010-07-13 Thread Giovanni Tirloni
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Brent Jones wrote: > I have been running a pair of X4540's for almost 2 years now, the > usual spec (Quad core, 64GB RAM, 48x 1TB). > I have a pair of mirrored drives for rpool, and a Raidz set with 5-6 > disks in each vdev for the rest of the disks. > I am running

[zfs-discuss] zfs root flash archive issue

2010-07-13 Thread Ketan
I have created a flash archive from a Ldom on T5220 with zfs root solaris 10_u8. But after creation of flar the info shows the content_architectures=sun4c,sun4d,sun4m,sun4u,sun4us,sun4s but not sun4v due to which i 'm unable to install this flash archive on another Ldom on the same host. Is the

[zfs-discuss] ZFS list snapshots incurs large delay

2010-07-13 Thread Brent Jones
I have been running a pair of X4540's for almost 2 years now, the usual spec (Quad core, 64GB RAM, 48x 1TB). I have a pair of mirrored drives for rpool, and a Raidz set with 5-6 disks in each vdev for the rest of the disks. I am running snv_132 on both systems. I noticed an oddity on one particula

Re: [zfs-discuss] Recovering from an apparent ZFS Hang

2010-07-13 Thread Brian Leonard
Hi Cindy, I'm trying to demonstrate how ZFS behaves when a disk fails. The drive enclosure I'm using (http://www.icydock.com/product/mb561us-4s-1.html) says it supports hot swap, but that's not what I'm experiencing. When I plug the disk back in, all 4 disks are no longer recognizable until I r

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs send/recv hanging in 2009.06

2010-07-13 Thread David Dyer-Bennet
On Fri, July 9, 2010 18:42, Giovanni Tirloni wrote: > On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 6:49 PM, BJ Quinn wrote: >> I have a couple of systems running 2009.06 that hang on relatively large >> zfs send/recv jobs.  With the -v option, I see the snapshots coming >> across, and at some point the process just pa

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs send/recv hanging in 2009.06

2010-07-13 Thread David Dyer-Bennet
On Fri, July 9, 2010 16:49, BJ Quinn wrote: > I have a couple of systems running 2009.06 that hang on relatively large > zfs send/recv jobs. With the -v option, I see the snapshots coming > across, and at some point the process just pauses, IO and CPU usage go to > zero, and it takes a hard reboo

Re: [zfs-discuss] Legality and the future of zfs...

2010-07-13 Thread Joerg Schilling
Edward Ned Harvey wrote: > CDDL contains an explicit disclaimer of warranty, which means, if Apple were > to download CDDL ZFS source code and compile and distribute it themselves, > they would be fully liable for any lawsuit waged against them. But CDDL > also allows for Sun to distribute ZFS b

Re: [zfs-discuss] Legality and the future of zfs...

2010-07-13 Thread Dave Pooser
On 7/12/10 Jul 12, 10:49 AM, "Linder, Doug" wrote: > Out of sheer curiosity - and I'm not disagreeing with you, just wondering - > how does ZFS make money for Oracle when they don't charge for it? Do you > think it's such an important feature that it's a big factor in customers > picking Solaris

Re: [zfs-discuss] Legality and the future of zfs...

2010-07-13 Thread Garrett D'Amore
On Tue, 2010-07-13 at 10:51 -0400, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: > > From: Bob Friesenhahn [mailto:bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us] > > > > > A private license, with support and indemnification from Sun, would > > > shield Apple from any lawsuit from Netapp. > > > > The patent holder is not compelled > >

Re: [zfs-discuss] Legality and the future of zfs...

2010-07-13 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
> From: Bob Friesenhahn [mailto:bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us] > > > A private license, with support and indemnification from Sun, would > > shield Apple from any lawsuit from Netapp. > > The patent holder is not compelled > in any way to offer a license for use of the patent. Without a patent > l

Re: [zfs-discuss] Legality and the future of zfs...

2010-07-13 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
> From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- > boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Linder, Doug > > Out of sheer curiosity - and I'm not disagreeing with you, just > wondering - how does ZFS make money for Oracle when they don't charge > for it? Do you think it's such an imp

Re: [zfs-discuss] Need ZFS master!

2010-07-13 Thread Ross Walker
The whole disk layout should be copied from disk 1 to 2, then the slice on disk 2 that corresponds to the slice on disk 1 should be attached to the rpool which forms an rpool mirror (attached not added). Then you need to add the grub bootloader to disk 2. When it finishes resilvering then you

Re: [zfs-discuss] Encryption?

2010-07-13 Thread Linder, Doug
While we're on the topic, has anyone used ZFS much with Vormetric's encryption product? Any feedback? Doug Linder -- Learn more about Merchant Link at www.merchantlink.com. THIS MESSAGE IS CONFIDENTIAL. This e-mail message and any attachments are proprietary and confidential inform

Re: [zfs-discuss] Need ZFS master!

2010-07-13 Thread Beau J. Bechdol
I do apologies but I am completely lost here Maybe I am just not understanding. Are you saying that a slice has to be created on the seond drive before it can bee added to the pool? Thanks On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Cindy Swearingen < cindy.swearin...@oracle.com> wrote: > Hi John, > >