Re: [zfs-discuss] Mounting a snapshot of an iSCSI volume using Windows

2010-02-07 Thread Daniel Carosone
On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 04:17:17PM -0800, Scott Meilicke wrote: > At this point, my server Gallardo can see the LUN, but like I said, it looks > blank to the OS. I suspect the 'sbdadm create-lu' phase. Yeah, try the import version of that command. -- Dan. pgphS37DCPdV0.pgp Description: PGP sig

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS ZIL + L2ARC SSD Setup

2010-02-07 Thread Daniel Carosone
On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 04:58:38AM +0100, Felix Buenemann wrote: > I have some questions about the choice of SSDs to use for ZIL and L2ARC. I have one answer. The other questions are mostly related to your raid controller, which I can't answer directly. > - Is it safe to run the L2ARC without ba

Re: [zfs-discuss] verging OT: how to buy J4500 w/o overpriced drives

2010-02-07 Thread Frank Cusack
On 2/8/10 12:49 AM -0200 Giovanni Tirloni wrote: I think the industry is in a sad state when you buy enterprise-level drives and they don't work as expected (see that thread about TLER settings on WD enterprise drives) that you have to spend extra on drives that got reviewed by a third-party (Sun

[zfs-discuss] ZFS ZIL + L2ARC SSD Setup

2010-02-07 Thread Felix Buenemann
I have some questions about the choice of SSDs to use for ZIL and L2ARC. I'm trying to build an OpenSolaris iSCSI SAN out of a whitebox system, which is intended to be used as a backup SAN during storage migration, so it's built on a tight budget. The system currently has 4GB RAM, 3GHz Core2-

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS send/recv checksum transmission

2010-02-07 Thread Daniel Carosone
On Sat, Feb 06, 2010 at 09:22:57AM -0800, Richard Elling wrote: > I'm interested in anecdotal evidence which suggests there is a > problem as it is currently designed. I like to look at it differently: I'm not sure if there is a problem. I'd like to have a simple way to discover a problem, using

Re: [zfs-discuss] Disk Issues

2010-02-07 Thread Brian McKerr
> > > I'd say your easiest two options are swap ports and > see if the problem > follows the drive. If it does, swap the drive out. > > > --Tim > ___ Yep, that sounds like a plan. Thanks for your suggestion. -- This message posted from opensolaris

Re: [zfs-discuss] Cores vs. Speed?

2010-02-07 Thread Erik Trimble
Ian Collins wrote: David Magda wrote: On Feb 6, 2010, at 21:08, Rob Logan wrote: I failed to realize the AM3 cpus accepted UnBuffered ECC DDR3-1333 like Lynnfield. To use Intel's 6 slots vs AMD 4 slots, one must use Registered ECC. What is the difference between "unbuffered" and "registered

Re: [zfs-discuss] Disk Issues

2010-02-07 Thread Tim Cook
On Sunday, February 7, 2010, Brian McKerr wrote: > While not strictly a ZFS issue as such I thought I'd post here as this and > the storage forums are my best bet in terms of getting some help. > > I have a machine that I recently set up with b130, b131 and b132. With each > build I have been pl

Re: [zfs-discuss] verging OT: how to buy J4500 w/o overpriced drives

2010-02-07 Thread Giovanni Tirloni
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 9:07 PM, Marc Nicholas wrote: > I believe magical unicorn controllers and drives are both bug-free and > 100% spec compliant. The leprichorns sell them if you're trying to > find them ;) > Well, "perfect" and "bug free" sure don't exist in our industry. The problem is tha

Re: [zfs-discuss] verging OT: how to buy J4500 w/o overpriced drives

2010-02-07 Thread Giovanni Tirloni
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 1:58 PM, Tim Cook wrote: > > It's called spreading the costs around. Would you really rather pay 10x > the price on everything else besides the drives? This is essentially Sun's > way of tiered pricing. Rather than charge you a software fee based on how > much storage yo

Re: [zfs-discuss] Pool import with failed ZIL device now possible ?

2010-02-07 Thread Kjetil Torgrim Homme
Christo Kutrovsky writes: > Has anyone seen soft corruption in NTFS iSCSI ZVOLs after a power > loss? this is not from experience, but I'll answer anyway. > I mean, there is no guarantee writes will be executed in order, so in > theory, one could corrupt it's NTFS file system. I think you have

[zfs-discuss] Disk Issues

2010-02-07 Thread Brian McKerr
While not strictly a ZFS issue as such I thought I'd post here as this and the storage forums are my best bet in terms of getting some help. I have a machine that I recently set up with b130, b131 and b132. With each build I have been playing around with ZFS raidz2 and mirroring to do a little

Re: [zfs-discuss] Pool import with failed ZIL device now possible ?

2010-02-07 Thread Christo Kutrovsky
Has anyone seen soft corruption in NTFS iSCSI ZVOLs after a power loss? I mean, there is no guarantee writes will be executed in order, so in theory, one could corrupt it's NTFS file system. Would best practice be to rollback the last snapshot before making those iSCSI available again? -- This

Re: [zfs-discuss] verging OT: how to buy J4500 w/o overpriced drives

2010-02-07 Thread Ragnar Sundblad
On 2 feb 2010, at 16.26, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: > I'm pretty doubtful that the hardware differs from what I can buy from > Newegg or whatever *IF* I buy the same enterprise-grade drive model (WD > S25 or RE-4, say, rather than Caviar Blue) (I don't know what WD drives, > if any, are currently q

Re: [zfs-discuss] help with zfs send/receive

2010-02-07 Thread Bruno Damour
On 02/ 7/10 12:57 PM, Thomas Burgess wrote: I just started using send/receive myself yesterday. This is what i found out I wanted to do the same thing, i had a filesystem called Video in my tank pool, it looked like this: tank/nas/Video (pool was tank, it was a child of nas) and it was moun

Re: [zfs-discuss] verging OT: how to buy J4500 w/o overpriced drives

2010-02-07 Thread Kjetil Torgrim Homme
Tim Cook writes: > Kjetil Torgrim Homme wrote: >>I don't know what the J4500 drive sled contains, but for the J4200 >>and J4400 they need to include quite a bit of circuitry to handle >>SAS protocol all the way, for multipathing and to be able to >>accept a mix of SAS and SATA dri

Re: [zfs-discuss] Different Hash algorithm

2010-02-07 Thread Khyron
Well, it's an attack, right? Neither Skein nor Threefish has been compromised. In fact, this is what you want to see - researchers attacking an algorithm which goes a long way toward furthering or proving the security of said algorithm. I think I agree with Darren overall, but this still looks pr

Re: [zfs-discuss] Pool import with failed ZIL device now possible ?

2010-02-07 Thread Kjetil Torgrim Homme
Darren J Moffat writes: > That disables the ZIL for *all* datasets on *all* pools on the system. > Doing this means that for NFS client or other applications (maybe > local) that rely on the POSIX synchronus requirements of fsync they > may see data loss on a crash. Note that the ZFS pool is sti

Re: [zfs-discuss] Pool import with failed ZIL device now possible ?

2010-02-07 Thread Darren J Moffat
On 07/02/2010 20:56, Christo Kutrovsky wrote: Darren, thanks for reply. Still not clear to me thought. Based on what you wrote below you do understand it. The only purpose of the slog is to serve the ZIL. There may be many "ZIL"s on a single slog. Correct, and correct. From Milek's blo

Re: [zfs-discuss] Cores vs. Speed?

2010-02-07 Thread Ian Collins
David Magda wrote: On Feb 6, 2010, at 21:08, Rob Logan wrote: I failed to realize the AM3 cpus accepted UnBuffered ECC DDR3-1333 like Lynnfield. To use Intel's 6 slots vs AMD 4 slots, one must use Registered ECC. What is the difference between "unbuffered" and "registered"? Buffered is ofte

Re: [zfs-discuss] Pool import with failed ZIL device now possible ?

2010-02-07 Thread Christo Kutrovsky
Darren, thanks for reply. Still not clear to me thought. The only purpose of the slog is to serve the ZIL. There may be many "ZIL"s on a single slog. >From Milek's blog: logbias=latency - data written to slog first logbias=throughtput - data written directly to dataset. Here's my problem. I h

Re: [zfs-discuss] Different Hash algorithm

2010-02-07 Thread David Magda
On Feb 7, 2010, at 15:10, Darren J Moffat wrote: On 07/02/2010 20:07, Joerg Moellenkamp wrote: Hello, while writing some articles about dedup, hashes and ZFS for my blog, i asked myself: When fletcher4 is fast, but collision prone and sha256 is slower, but relatively secure, wouldn't it

Re: [zfs-discuss] Cores vs. Speed?

2010-02-07 Thread David Magda
On Feb 6, 2010, at 21:08, Rob Logan wrote: I failed to realize the AM3 cpus accepted UnBuffered ECC DDR3-1333 like Lynnfield. To use Intel's 6 slots vs AMD 4 slots, one must use Registered ECC. What is the difference between "unbuffered" and "registered"? __

Re: [zfs-discuss] Pool import with failed ZIL device now possible ?

2010-02-07 Thread Darren J Moffat
On 07/02/2010 20:10, Christo Kutrovsky wrote: Eric, I am confused. What's difference between: - turning off slogs (via logbias) slog = Separate Log Device slog != ZIL There is zero or one slog (maybe mirrored) per pool. Every dataset has its own ZIL. The logbias property provides a hint t

Re: [zfs-discuss] Different Hash algorithm

2010-02-07 Thread Darren J Moffat
On 07/02/2010 20:07, Joerg Moellenkamp wrote: Hello, while writing some articles about dedup, hashes and ZFS for my blog, i asked myself: When fletcher4 is fast, but collision prone and sha256 is slower, but relatively secure, wouldn't it be reasonable to integrate Skein (http://www.schneier.com

Re: [zfs-discuss] Pool import with failed ZIL device now possible ?

2010-02-07 Thread Christo Kutrovsky
Eric, I am confused. What's difference between: - turning off slogs (via logbias) vs - turning off ZIL (via kernel tunable) Isn't that similar, just one is more granular? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-dis

[zfs-discuss] Different Hash algorithm

2010-02-07 Thread Joerg Moellenkamp
Hello, while writing some articles about dedup, hashes and ZFS for my blog, i asked myself: When fletcher4 is fast, but collision prone and sha256 is slower, but relatively secure, wouldn't it be reasonable to integrate Skein (http://www.schneier.com/skein.pdf) into ZFS to yield faster checksu

Re: [zfs-discuss] acl's and new dirs

2010-02-07 Thread Mark Shellenbaum
Thomas Burgess wrote: I've got a strange issue, If this is covered elsewhere, i apologize in advance for my newbness I've got a couple ZFS filesystems shared cifs and nfs, i've managed to get ACL's working the way i want, provided things are accessed via cifs and nfs. If i create a new dir

Re: [zfs-discuss] move ZFS fs to a zone

2010-02-07 Thread Dick Hoogendijk
Op 7-2-2010 19:33, Ian Collins schreef: dick hoogendijk wrote: I want to move the rpool/www zfs filesystem to zone midgard. Is this possible and how is this done? Search for "Zones" in the zfs man page. OK, it seems to be a simple question. It was not to me, but I'll folow your advice. --

Re: [zfs-discuss] move ZFS fs to a zone

2010-02-07 Thread Ian Collins
dick hoogendijk wrote: # zfs list rpool/www 3.64G 377G 3.64G /var/www rpool/zones 3.00G 377G24K /zones rpool/zones/anduin1.94G 377G24K /zones/anduin rpool/zones/anduin/ROOT 1.94G 377G21K legacy rpool/zones/anduin/ROO

[zfs-discuss] move ZFS fs to a zone

2010-02-07 Thread dick hoogendijk
# zfs list rpool/www 3.64G 377G 3.64G /var/www rpool/zones 3.00G 377G24K /zones rpool/zones/anduin1.94G 377G24K /zones/anduin rpool/zones/anduin/ROOT 1.94G 377G21K legacy rpool/zones/anduin/ROOT/zbe 1.94G 377G 1.9

Re: [zfs-discuss] help with zfs send/receive

2010-02-07 Thread Bruno Damour
No success, I tried with -F thought I do not like these tricks, but now it complains about snapshost existing in destination. Destination did not exist before, so what ? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discus

Re: [zfs-discuss] verging OT: how to buy J4500 w/o overpriced drives

2010-02-07 Thread Tim Cook
On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Kjetil Torgrim Homme wrote: > matthew patton writes: > > > true. but I buy a Ferrari for the engine and bodywork and chassis > > engineering. It is totally criminal what Sun/EMC/Dell/Netapp do > > charging customers 10x the open-market rate for standard drives. A >

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS 'secure erase'

2010-02-07 Thread Darren J Moffat
On 05/02/2010 21:46, Nicolas Williams wrote: On Fri, Feb 05, 2010 at 04:41:08PM -0500, Miles Nordin wrote: "ch" == c hanover writes: ch> is there a way to a) securely destroy a filesystem, AIUI zfs crypto will include this, some day, by forgetting the key. Right. but for SSD, zfs a

Re: [zfs-discuss] Pool import with failed ZIL device now possible ?

2010-02-07 Thread Eric Schrock
On Feb 6, 2010, at 11:30 PM, Christo Kutrovsky wrote: > Eric, thanks for clarifying. > > Could you confirm the release for #1 ? As "today" can be misleading depending > on the user. A long time (snv_96/s10u8). > Is there a schedule/target for #2 ? No. > And just to confirm the alternative t

[zfs-discuss] disk devices missing but zfs uses them ?

2010-02-07 Thread Lutz Schumann
Hello I have a strange issue, I'm having a setup with 24 disk enclosure connected with LSI3801-R. I created two pools. Pool have 24 healthy disks. I disabled LUN persistency on the LSI adapter. When I cold boot the server (power off by pulling all power cables), a warning is shown on the co

[zfs-discuss] help with zfs send/receive

2010-02-07 Thread Bruno Damour
Hello, I'm trying to migrate my "data" pool to get dedup and compression. I tried : # zfs send -RD d...@prededup |zfs receive ezdata/data it fails in the end with : cannot receive new filesystem stream: destination 'ezdata/data' exists must specify -F to overwrite it the ezdata pool has just been

Re: [zfs-discuss] Cores vs. Speed?

2010-02-07 Thread Erik Trimble
Rob Logan wrote: I like the original Phenom X3 or X4 we all agree ram is the key to happiness. The debate is what offers the most ECC ram for the least $. I failed to realize the AM3 cpus accepted UnBuffered ECC DDR3-1333 like Lynnfield. To use Intel's 6 slots vs AMD 4 slots, one must use