Re: [zfs-discuss] Pool Layout Advice Needed

2009-08-07 Thread Ian Collins
Adam Sherman wrote: On 6-Aug-09, at 15:16 , Ian Collins wrote: This ended up being a costly mistake, the environment I ended up with didn't play well with Live Upgrade. So I suggest what ever you do, make sure you can create a new BE and boot into it before committing. I assume this was old-

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs fragmentation

2009-08-07 Thread Richard Elling
On Aug 7, 2009, at 2:29 PM, Ed Spencer wrote: Let me give a real life example of what I believe is a fragmented zfs pool. Currently the pool is 2 terabytes in size (55% used) and is made of 4 san luns (512gb each). The pool has never gotten close to being full. We increase the size of th

Re: [zfs-discuss] Pool iscsi /zfs performance in opensolaris 0906

2009-08-07 Thread Stephen Green
Stephen Green wrote: Also, I got my wife to agree to a new SSD, so I presume that I can simply do the re-silver with the new drive when it arrives. And the last thing for today, I ended up getting: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820609330 which is 16GB and should be suf

[zfs-discuss] How to recover 'lost' ZFS pool

2009-08-07 Thread Jock Shearer
ZFS filesystem version 6 ZFS storage pool version 6 Platform - 0.7RC1 (revision 4735) // FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p1 (revision 199506) // i386-embedded on AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1500+ Drives - 250GB & 150GB IDE // ZFS Raid Stripe Am aware this is not OpenSolaris but looking for the ZFS expertise. Thanks.

[zfs-discuss] EON ZFS NAS 0.59.2 based on snv_119 released

2009-08-07 Thread Andre Lue
EON 64-bit x86 CIFS ISO image version 0.59.2 based on snv_119 * eon-0.592-119-64-cifs.iso * MD5: a8560cf9b407c9da846dfa773aeaf676 * Size: ~87Mb * Released: Friday 07-August-2009 EON 64-bit x86 Samba ISO image version 0.59.2 based on snv_119 * eon-0.592-119-64-smb.iso * MD5:

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs fragmentation

2009-08-07 Thread Ed Spencer
Let me give a real life example of what I believe is a fragmented zfs pool. Currently the pool is 2 terabytes in size (55% used) and is made of 4 san luns (512gb each). The pool has never gotten close to being full. We increase the size of the pool by adding 2 512gb luns about once a year or so

Re: [zfs-discuss] Shrinking a zpool?

2009-08-07 Thread Cindy . Swearingen
Hey Richard, I believe 6844090 would be a candidate for an s10 backport. The behavior of 6844090 worked nicely when I replaced a disk of the same physical size even though the disks were not identical. Another flexible storage feature is George's autoexpand property (Nevada build 117), where yo

Re: [zfs-discuss] Supported Motherboard SATA controller chipsets?

2009-08-07 Thread Volker A. Brandt
Hello Kyle! Sorry for the late answer. > > Be careful with nVidia if you want to use Samsung SATA disks. > > There is a problem with the disk freezing up. This bit me with > > our X2100M2 and X2200M2 systems. > > I don't know if it's related to your issue, but I have also seen > comments aroun

Re: [zfs-discuss] add-view for the zfs snapshot

2009-08-07 Thread Charles Baker
> I frist create lun by "stmfadm create-lu ", and > add-view , so the initiator can see the created > lun. > > Now I use "zfs snapshot" to create snapshot for the > created lun. > > hat can I do to make the snapshot is accessed by the > Initiator? Thanks. Hi, This is a good question and some

Re: [zfs-discuss] Pool iscsi /zfs performance in opensolaris 0906

2009-08-07 Thread Stephen Green
Stephen Green wrote: Oh, and for those following along at home, the re-silvering of the slog to a file is proceeding well. 72% done in 25 minutes. And, for the purposes of the archives, the re-silver finished in 34 minutes and I successfully removed the RAM disk. Thanks, Erik for the eminen

[zfs-discuss] add-view for the zfs snapshot

2009-08-07 Thread liujun
I frist create lun by "stmfadm create-lu ", and add-view , so the initiator can see the created lun. Now I use "zfs snapshot" to create snapshot for the created lun. What can I do to make the snapshot is accessed by the Initiator? Thanks. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org _

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs fragmentation

2009-08-07 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Fri, 7 Aug 2009, Scott Meilicke wrote: Bob, since the ZIL is used always, whether a separate device or not, won't writes to a system without a separate ZIL also be written as intelligently as with a separate ZIL? I don't know the answer to that. Perhaps there is no current advantage. T

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs fragmentation

2009-08-07 Thread Neil Perrin
On 08/07/09 10:54, Scott Meilicke wrote: ZFS absolutely observes synchronous write requests (e.g. by NFS or a database). The synchronous write requests do not benefit from the long write aggregation delay so the result may not be written as ideally as ordinary write requests. Recently zfs has

Re: [zfs-discuss] Pool iscsi /zfs performance in opensolaris 0906

2009-08-07 Thread Stephen Green
Scott Meilicke wrote: Note - this has a mini PCIe interface, not PCIe. Well, that's an *excellent* point. I guess that lets that one out. It turns out I do have an open SATA port, so I might just go for a disk that has a SATA interface, since that should just work. I had the 64GB version

[zfs-discuss] ZFS log root pool?

2009-08-07 Thread Gregg Ferguson [Systems Engineer, Sun West Coast Aerospace]
Hi, Is the ability to add a log device to a root pool on the roadmap for ZFS? Thanks, Gregg ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs fragmentation

2009-08-07 Thread Scott Meilicke
> ZFS absolutely observes synchronous write requests (e.g. by NFS or a > database). The synchronous write requests do not benefit from the > long write aggregation delay so the result may not be written as > ideally as ordinary write requests. Recently zfs has added support > for using a SSD as

Re: [zfs-discuss] Pool iscsi /zfs performance in opensolaris 0906

2009-08-07 Thread Scott Meilicke
Note - this has a mini PCIe interface, not PCIe. I had the 64GB version in a Dell Mini 9. While it was great for it's small size, low power and low heat characteristics (no fan on the Mini 9!), it was only faster than the striped sata drives in my mac pro when it came to random reads. Everythin

Re: [zfs-discuss] MISTAKE in Evil_Tuning_Guide - FLUSH

2009-08-07 Thread Michael Marburger
Sweet! Thanks! You rock! -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] Pool Layout Advice Needed

2009-08-07 Thread Adam Sherman
On 6-Aug-09, at 15:16 , Ian Collins wrote: This ended up being a costly mistake, the environment I ended up with didn't play well with Live Upgrade. So I suggest what ever you do, make sure you can create a new BE and boot into it before committing. I assume this was old-style LU and the

Re: [zfs-discuss] Pool Layout Advice Needed

2009-08-07 Thread Adam Sherman
On 6-Aug-09, at 11:32 , Thomas Burgess wrote: i've seen some people use usb sticks, and in practice it works on SOME machines. The biggest difference is that the bios has to allow for usb booting. Most of todays computers DO. Personally i like compact flash because it is fairly easy to us

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs fragmentation

2009-08-07 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009, Hua wrote: 1. Due to the COW nature of zfs, files on zfs are more tender to be fragmented comparing to traditional file system. Is this statement correct? Yes and no. Fragmentation is a complex issue. ZFS uses 128K data blocks by default whereas other filesystems typica

Re: [zfs-discuss] MISTAKE in Evil_Tuning_Guide - FLUSH

2009-08-07 Thread Cindy . Swearingen
Hi Michael, I will get this fixed. Thanks for letting us know. Cindy On 08/07/09 09:24, Michael Marburger wrote: Who do we contact to fix mis-information in the evil tuning guide? at: http://www.solarisinternals.com/wiki/index.php/ZFS_Evil_Tuning_Guide#How_to_Tune_Cache_Sync_Handling_Per_St

Re: [zfs-discuss] changing SATA ports

2009-08-07 Thread Tim Cook
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 8:49 AM, Dick Hoogendijk wrote: > I've a new MB (tyhe same as before butthis one works..) and I want to > change the way my SATA drives were connected. I had a ZFS boot mirror > conncted to SATA3 and 4 and I wat those drives to be on SATA1 and 2 now. > > Question: will ZFS

Re: [zfs-discuss] Pool iscsi /zfs performance in opensolaris 0906

2009-08-07 Thread Stephen Green
Stephen Green wrote: Thanks for the advice, I think it might be time to convince the wife that I need to buy an SSD. Anyone have recommendations for a reasonably priced SSD for a home box? For example, does anyone know if something like: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16

[zfs-discuss] MISTAKE in Evil_Tuning_Guide - FLUSH

2009-08-07 Thread Michael Marburger
Who do we contact to fix mis-information in the evil tuning guide? at: http://www.solarisinternals.com/wiki/index.php/ZFS_Evil_Tuning_Guide#How_to_Tune_Cache_Sync_Handling_Per_Storage_Device Item 2 indicates SPARC uses file name ssd.conf and X64 uses sd.conf to insert a line "sd-config-list ...

Re: [zfs-discuss] Pool iscsi /zfs performance in opensolaris 0906

2009-08-07 Thread Stephen Green
erik.ableson wrote: On 7 août 09, at 02:03, Stephen Green wrote: Man, that looks so nice I think I'll change my mail client to do dates in French :-) Now my only question is: what do I do when it's done? If I reboot and the ram disk disappears, will my tank be dead? Or will it just conti

[zfs-discuss] changing SATA ports

2009-08-07 Thread Dick Hoogendijk
I've a new MB (tyhe same as before butthis one works..) and I want to change the way my SATA drives were connected. I had a ZFS boot mirror conncted to SATA3 and 4 and I wat those drives to be on SATA1 and 2 now. Question: will ZFS see this and boot the system OK or will I have to take some pr

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can I setting 'zil_disable' to increase ZFS/iscsi performance ?

2009-08-07 Thread roland
>Yes, but to see if a separate ZIL will make a difference the OP should >try his iSCSI workload first with ZIL then temporarily disable ZIL and >re-try his workload. or you may use the zilstat utility -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zf

Re: [zfs-discuss] limiting the ARC cache during early boot, without /etc/system

2009-08-07 Thread Matt Ingenthron
> Besides the /etc/system, you could also export all > the pools, use mdb to > set the same variable that /etc/system sets, and then > import the pools > again. Don't know of any other mechanism to limit > ZFS's memory foot print. > > If you don't do ZFS boot, manually import the pools > after t

Re: [zfs-discuss] Pool iscsi /zfs performance in opensolaris 0906

2009-08-07 Thread erik.ableson
On 7 août 09, at 02:03, Stephen Green wrote: I used a 2GB ram disk (the machine has 12GB of RAM) and this jumped the backup up to somewhere between 18-40MB/s, which means that I'm only a couple of hours away from finishing my backup. This is, as far as I can tell, magic (since I started th