Re: [zfs-discuss] recovering data from a dettach mirrored vdev

2008-05-08 Thread Jesus Cea
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Darren J Moffat wrote: | Great tool, any chance we can have it integrated into zpool(1M) so that | it can find and "fixup" on import detached vdevs as new pools ? | | I'd think it would be reasonable to extend the meaning of | 'zpool import -D' to list

Re: [zfs-discuss] News on Single Drive RaidZ Expansion?

2008-05-08 Thread Jason King
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 8:59 PM, EchoB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I cannot recall if it was this (-discuss) or (-code) but a post a few > months ago caught my attention. > In it someone detailed having worked out the math and algorithms for a > flexible expansion scheme for ZFS. Clearly this is

[zfs-discuss] News on Single Drive RaidZ Expansion?

2008-05-08 Thread EchoB
I cannot recall if it was this (-discuss) or (-code) but a post a few months ago caught my attention. In it someone detailed having worked out the math and algorithms for a flexible expansion scheme for ZFS. Clearly this is very exciting to me, and most people who use ZFS on purpose. I am wonder

Re: [zfs-discuss] Sanity check -- x4500 storage server for enterprise file service

2008-05-08 Thread Dave
On 05/08/2008 11:29 AM, Luke Scharf wrote: > Dave wrote: >> On 05/08/2008 08:11 AM, Ross wrote: >> >>> It may be an obvious point, but are you aware that snapshots need to >>> be stopped any time a disk fails? It's something to consider if >>> you're planning frequent snapshots. >>> >> >>

Re: [zfs-discuss] Sanity check -- x4500 storage server for enterprise file service

2008-05-08 Thread eric kustarz
On May 8, 2008, at 12:31 PM, Carson Gaspar wrote: > Luke Scharf wrote: >> Dave wrote: >>> On 05/08/2008 08:11 AM, Ross wrote: >>> It may be an obvious point, but are you aware that snapshots need to be stopped any time a disk fails? It's something to consider if you're plannin

Re: [zfs-discuss] Sanity check -- x4500 storage server for enterprise file service

2008-05-08 Thread Wade . Stuart
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 05/08/2008 02:31:43 PM: > Luke Scharf wrote: > > Dave wrote: > >> On 05/08/2008 08:11 AM, Ross wrote: > >> > >>> It may be an obvious point, but are you aware that snapshots > need to be stopped any time a disk fails? It's something to > consider if you're planning freq

Re: [zfs-discuss] Sanity check -- x4500 storage server for enterprise file service

2008-05-08 Thread Carson Gaspar
Luke Scharf wrote: > Dave wrote: >> On 05/08/2008 08:11 AM, Ross wrote: >> >>> It may be an obvious point, but are you aware that snapshots need to be >>> stopped any time a disk fails? It's something to consider if you're >>> planning frequent snapshots. >>> >> I've never heard this bef

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS cli for REMOTE Administration

2008-05-08 Thread Mark Shellenbaum
Marcelo Leal wrote: > No answer... well, do you not have this problem or there is another option to > delegate such administration? I was thinking if we can delegate a "single" > filesystem administration to some user through ZFS administration web console > (67889). > Can i create a user and

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS cli for REMOTE Administration

2008-05-08 Thread Darren J Moffat
Marcelo Leal wrote: > No answer... well, do you not have this problem or there is another option to > delegate such administration? I was thinking if we can delegate a "single" > filesystem administration to some user through ZFS administration web console > (67889). > Can i create a user and

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS cli for REMOTE Administration

2008-05-08 Thread Marcelo Leal
No answer... well, do you not have this problem or there is another option to delegate such administration? I was thinking if we can delegate a "single" filesystem administration to some user through ZFS administration web console (67889). Can i create a user and give him administration rights

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs! mirror and break

2008-05-08 Thread Richard Elling
Mike DeMarco wrote: > I currently have a zpool with two 8Gbyte disks in it. I need to replace them > with a single 56Gbyte disk. > > with veritas I would just add the disk in as a mirror and break off the other > plex then destroy it. > > I see no way of being able to do this with zfs. > > Being

[zfs-discuss] zfs! mirror and break

2008-05-08 Thread Mike DeMarco
I currently have a zpool with two 8Gbyte disks in it. I need to replace them with a single 56Gbyte disk. with veritas I would just add the disk in as a mirror and break off the other plex then destroy it. I see no way of being able to do this with zfs. Being able to migrate data without having

Re: [zfs-discuss] Sanity check -- x4500 storage server for enterprise file service

2008-05-08 Thread Richard Elling
Bob Friesenhahn wrote: > On Thu, 8 May 2008, Ross wrote: > > >> protected even if a disk fails. I found this post quite an >> interesting >> read:http://blogs.sun.com/relling/entry/raid_recommendations_space_vs_mttdl >> > > Richard's blog entry does not tell the whole story. ZFS does not

Re: [zfs-discuss] Image with DD from ZFS partition

2008-05-08 Thread Hans
hello thank you for your postings. i try to understood. but my english is not so good. :-) for exporting a zfs i must use a special command like zspool export this makes the filesystem ready to export. but i think so: when i boot from the live cd without mounting/activating the file system , the

Re: [zfs-discuss] Sanity check -- x4500 storage server for enterprise file service

2008-05-08 Thread Luke Scharf
Dave wrote: > On 05/08/2008 08:11 AM, Ross wrote: > >> It may be an obvious point, but are you aware that snapshots need to be >> stopped any time a disk fails? It's something to consider if you're >> planning frequent snapshots. >> > > I've never heard this before. Why would snapshots n

Re: [zfs-discuss] Sanity check -- x4500 storage server for enterprise file service

2008-05-08 Thread Dave
On 05/08/2008 08:11 AM, Ross wrote: > It may be an obvious point, but are you aware that snapshots need to be > stopped any time a disk fails? It's something to consider if you're planning > frequent snapshots. I've never heard this before. Why would snapshots need to be stopped for a disk fai

Re: [zfs-discuss] Sanity check -- x4500 storage server for enterprise file service

2008-05-08 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Thu, 8 May 2008, Ross Smith wrote: > True, but I'm seeing more and more articles pointing out that the > risk of a secondary failure is increasing as disks grow in size, and Quite true. > While I'm not sure of the actual error rates (Western digital list > their unrecoverable rates as < 1 i

Re: [zfs-discuss] Sanity check -- x4500 storage server for enterprise file service

2008-05-08 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Thu, 8 May 2008, Ross wrote: > protected even if a disk fails. I found this post quite an > interesting > read:http://blogs.sun.com/relling/entry/raid_recommendations_space_vs_mttdl Richard's blog entry does not tell the whole story. ZFS does not protect against memory corruption errors an

Re: [zfs-discuss] Sanity check -- x4500 storage server for enterprise file service

2008-05-08 Thread Ross
Mirrored drives should be fine. My understanding is that write performance suffers slightly in a mirrored configuration, but random reads are much faster. In your scenario I would expect mirroring to give far superior performance than raid-z2. We're looking to do something similar, but we're

Re: [zfs-discuss] Moving zfs pool to new machine?

2008-05-08 Thread Ivan Wang
> Steve, > > > Can someone tell me or point me to links that > describe how to > > do the following. > > > > I had a machine that crashed and I want to move to > a newer machine > > anyway. The boot disk on the old machine is fried. > The two disks I > was > using for a zfs pool on that machi

Re: [zfs-discuss] Image with DD from ZFS partition

2008-05-08 Thread Peter Karlsson
Hi Hans, Think what you are looking for would be a combination of a snapshot and zfs send/receive, that would give you an archive that you can use to recreate your zfs filesystems on your zpool at will at later time. So you can do something like this Create archive : zfs snapshot -r [EMAIL

Re: [zfs-discuss] Sanity check -- x4500 storage server for enterprise file service

2008-05-08 Thread Peter Tribble
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 11:34 PM, Paul B. Henson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > We have been evaluating ZFS as a potential solution for delivering > enterprise file services for our campus. ... > I was thinking about allocating 2 drives for the OS (SVM mirroring, pending > ZFS boot support), two hot

Re: [zfs-discuss] Image with DD from ZFS partition

2008-05-08 Thread Jim Dunham
Hans, > hello, > can i create a image from ZFS with the DD command? Yes, with restrictions. First, a ZFS storage pool must be in the "zpool export" state to be copied, so that a write-order consistent set of data exists in the copy. ZFS does an excellent job of detecting inconsistencies in t

Re: [zfs-discuss] recovering data from a dettach mirrored vdev

2008-05-08 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Darren, Tuesday, May 6, 2008, 11:16:25 AM, you wrote: DJM> Great tool, any chance we can have it integrated into zpool(1M) so that DJM> it can find and "fixup" on import detached vdevs as new pools ? I remember long time ago some posts about 'zpool split' so one could split a pool in two (