Re: [zfs-discuss] [storage-discuss] zpool io to 6140 is really slow

2007-11-18 Thread Louwtjie Burger
On Nov 17, 2007 9:40 PM, Asif Iqbal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > (Including storage-discuss) > > I have 6 6140s with 96 disks. Out of which 64 of them are Seagate > ST337FC (300GB - 1 RPM FC-AL) Those disks are 2Gb disks, so the tray will operate at 2Gb. > I created 16k seg size raid0 lun

[zfs-discuss] Solaris 8/07 Zfs Raidz NFS dies during iozone test on client host

2007-11-18 Thread Tim
Hi, Well I have a freshly built system with ZFS raidz. Intel P4 2.4 Ghz 1GB Ram Marvell Technology Group Ltd. MV88SX6081 8-port SATA II PCI-X Controller (2) Intel Dual Port 1Gbit nics I have (5) 300GB disks in a Raidz1 with Zfs. I've created a couple of FS on this. /export/downloads /export/mu

Re: [zfs-discuss] pls discontinue troll bait was: Yager on ZFS and

2007-11-18 Thread michael schuster
Anton B. Rang wrote: > Hint: Bill was already writing file system code when I was in elementary > school. ;-) > > Seriously...it's rather sad to see serious and useful discussions > derailed by thin skins and zealotry. Bill's kind enough to share some of > his real-world experience and observatio

Re: [zfs-discuss] pls discontinue troll bait was: Yager on ZFS and

2007-11-18 Thread Anton B. Rang
Hint: Bill was already writing file system code when I was in elementary school. ;-) Seriously...it's rather sad to see serious and useful discussions derailed by thin skins and zealotry. Bill's kind enough to share some of his real-world experience and observations in the old tradition of sen

Re: [zfs-discuss] slog tests on read throughput exhaustion (NFS)

2007-11-18 Thread Joe Little
On Nov 18, 2007 1:44 PM, Richard Elling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > one more thing... > > > Joe Little wrote: > > I have historically noticed that in ZFS, when ever there is a heavy > > writer to a pool via NFS, the reads can held back (basically paused). > > An example is a RAID10 pool of 6 disks

Re: [zfs-discuss] pls discontinue troll bait was: Yager on ZFS and

2007-11-18 Thread Toby Thain
On 18-Nov-07, at 7:30 PM, Dickon Hood wrote: > ... > : If you're still referring to your incompetent alleged research, > [...] > : [...] right out of the > : same orifice from which you've pulled the rest of your crap. > > It's language like that that is causing the problem. IMHO you're > be

Re: [zfs-discuss] pls discontinue troll bait was: Yager on ZFS and

2007-11-18 Thread Dickon Hood
On Sun, Nov 18, 2007 at 12:15:25 -0800, can you guess? wrote: : > Big talk from someone who seems so intent on hiding : > their credentials. : Say, what? Not that credentials mean much to me since I evaluate people : on their actual merit, but I've not been shy about who I am (when I : responded

Re: [zfs-discuss] slog tests on read throughput exhaustion (NFS)

2007-11-18 Thread Richard Elling
one more thing... Joe Little wrote: > I have historically noticed that in ZFS, when ever there is a heavy > writer to a pool via NFS, the reads can held back (basically paused). > An example is a RAID10 pool of 6 disks, whereby a directory of files > including some large 100+MB in size being writt

Re: [zfs-discuss] pls discontinue troll bait was: Yager on ZFS and

2007-11-18 Thread can you guess?
> Big talk from someone who seems so intent on hiding > their credentials. Say, what? Not that credentials mean much to me since I evaluate people on their actual merit, but I've not been shy about who I am (when I responded 'can you guess?' in registering after giving billtodd as my member nam

Re: [zfs-discuss] exporting a zfs pool from SPARC to x86

2007-11-18 Thread Eric Schrock
On Mon, Nov 19, 2007 at 07:09:21AM +1100, Edward Irvine wrote: > Hi Folks, > > I've got a 4 Tb pool on a 3511 array. The pool was created from, and > is mounted on, an old 280r. I'd like to export the pool from the 280r > and import it to a shiny new x2200. > > Will this work? Will the x2200

[zfs-discuss] exporting a zfs pool from SPARC to x86

2007-11-18 Thread Edward Irvine
Hi Folks, I've got a 4 Tb pool on a 3511 array. The pool was created from, and is mounted on, an old 280r. I'd like to export the pool from the 280r and import it to a shiny new x2200. Will this work? Will the x2200 understand the disk labels made by the 280r? Some tests we've done on a sma

Re: [zfs-discuss] pls discontinue troll bait was: Yager on ZFS and

2007-11-18 Thread Tim Cook
Big talk from someone who seems so intent on hiding their credentials. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] pls discontinue troll bait was: Yager on ZFS and

2007-11-18 Thread can you guess?
Ah - no references to back up your drivel, I see. No surprise there, of course - but thanks for playing. - bill This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/lis

Re: [zfs-discuss] pls discontinue troll bait was: Yager on ZFS and

2007-11-18 Thread Tim Cook
The only sad part is it's clear one or two people were fooled into believe there's any merit to your trolling. Grow up. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mai

Re: [zfs-discuss] pls discontinue troll bait was: Yager on ZFS and

2007-11-18 Thread can you guess?
> You've been trolling from the get-go and continue to > do so. Y'know, cookie, before letting the drool onto your keyboard you really ought to learn to research it. I said a good deal of what I've said recently well over a year ago here (and in fact had forgotten how much detail I went into ba

Re: [zfs-discuss] I was going to send you an email

2007-11-18 Thread Will Murnane
On Nov 18, 2007 6:34 PM, can you guess? <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As I said in a different thread, I really do try to respond to people in > the manner that they deserve This is the wrong way to approach the problem. If you have a legitimate point, make it courteously and respond to criticism n

Re: [zfs-discuss] pls discontinue troll bait (hold on!)

2007-11-18 Thread Tim Cook
Which would be great if there were any merit to what he spews. It's unfortunate if you're wasting your time reading the rants, you'd be much better off reading the zfs manual if you need more in-depth explanation of the technology... This message posted from opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] pls discontinue troll bait was: Yager on ZFS and

2007-11-18 Thread Tim Cook
You've been trolling from the get-go and continue to do so. First it's "I have the magical fix", which wasn't a fix at all. You claim to want to better the project, then claim you can't be bothered because you don't really care. You rant and rave about how this is so much like wafl from a tech

[zfs-discuss] I was going to send you an email

2007-11-18 Thread can you guess?
until I remembered that you said that you were speaking for others as well and decided that I'd like to speak to them too. As I said in a different thread, I really do try to respond to people in the manner that they deserve (and believe that in most cases here I have done so): even though I r

Re: [zfs-discuss] Recommended many-port SATA controllers for budget ZFS

2007-11-18 Thread Peter Schuller
> Right now I have noticed that LSI has recently began offering some > lower-budget stuff; specifically I am looking at the MegaRAID SAS > 8208ELP/XLP, which are very reasonably priced. I was pleasantly surprised to find that their tech support was very willing to look into queries by end-users w

Re: [zfs-discuss] pls discontinue troll bait (hold on!)

2007-11-18 Thread kilamanjaro
Hi ZFS discuss: I'm a daily regular reader who (usually, before this) never writes but finds the discussion list highly informative in furthering an understanding of ZFS. The discussion also provides useful knowledge for internal cases promoting the use of ZFS. Concerning: > I've been obser

Re: [zfs-discuss] pls discontinue troll bait was: Yager on ZFS and

2007-11-18 Thread can you guess?
... > I should know better than to reply to a troll, So which is it, Rich? Do you 'know better' but lack even minimal self-control, or do you, however dimly, recognize that there's actually a difference between 'trolling' and legitimate criticism (and are you so scared of the latter that you'