Re: [zfs-discuss] XServe Raid & Complex Storage Considerations

2007-04-25 Thread Dale Ghent
On Apr 25, 2007, at 11:17 AM, cedric briner wrote: hello the list, After reading the _excellent_ ZFS Best Practices Guide, I've seen in the section: ZFS and Complex Storage Consideration that we should configure the storage system to ignore command which will flush the memory into the dis

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Status Update before Reinstall?

2007-04-25 Thread Richard Elling
Brian Gupta wrote: Yes, dump on ZVOL isn't currently supported, so a dump slice is still needed. Maybe a dumb question, but why would anyone ever want to dump to an actual filesystem? (Or is my head thinking too Solaris) IMHO, only a few people in the world care about dumps at all (and you kn

[zfs-discuss] Re: zfs boot image conversion kit is posted

2007-04-25 Thread MC
You've delivered us to awesometown, Brain. > zfsboot.tar.bz2 is a vmware image made on a VMWare Server 1.0.1 machine. But oops, what is the root login password?! :) This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@op

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs submounts and permissions with autofs

2007-04-25 Thread Wee Yeh Tan
On 4/24/07, Mark Shellenbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is it expected that if I have filesystem tank/foo and tank/foo/bar > (mounted under /tank) then in order to be able to browse via > /net down into tank/foo/bar I need to have group/other permissions > on /tank/foo open? > You are running

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Status Update before Reinstall?

2007-04-25 Thread Brian Gupta
If I recall, the dump partition needed to be at least as large as RAM. In Solaris 8(?) this changed, in that crashdumps streans were compressed as they were written out to disk. Although I've never read this anywhere, I assumed the reasons this was done are as follows: 1) Large enterprise system

[zfs-discuss] patched DVD ISO image

2007-04-25 Thread Brian Hechinger
cadaver decided to complain that the file was "too large". This means that the DVD ISO won't get uploaded until I get to work tomorrow and can use something other than cadaver. Sorry for the delay. -brian -- "Perl can be fast and elegant as much as J2EE can be fast and elegant. In the hands of

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Status Update before Reinstall?

2007-04-25 Thread Brian Hechinger
On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 09:05:09PM -0400, Brian Gupta wrote: > > I do understand the reasons why you would want to dump to a virtual > construct. I am just not very comfortable with the concept. > > My instinct is that you want the fewest layers of software involved in > the event of a system cra

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Status Update before Reinstall?

2007-04-25 Thread Brian Gupta
Please bear with me, as I am not very familiar with ZFS. (And unfortunately probably won't have time to be until ZFS supports root boot and clustering in a named release). I do understand the reasons why you would want to dump to a virtual construct. I am just not very comfortable with the concep

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Status Update before Reinstall?

2007-04-25 Thread Brian Hechinger
On 4/25/07, Brian Gupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Yes, dump on ZVOL isn't currently supported, so a dump slice is still >needed. > >Maybe a dumb question, but why would anyone ever want to dump to an >actual filesystem? (Or is my head thinking too Solaris) > >Actually I could see why, but I d

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Status Update before Reinstall?

2007-04-25 Thread Malachi de Ælfweald
Maybe so that it can grow rather than being tied to a specific piece of hardware? Malachi On 4/25/07, Brian Gupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, dump on ZVOL isn't currently supported, so a dump slice is still needed. Maybe a dumb question, but why would anyone ever want to dump to an actu

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Status Update before Reinstall?

2007-04-25 Thread Brian Gupta
Yes, dump on ZVOL isn't currently supported, so a dump slice is still needed. Maybe a dumb question, but why would anyone ever want to dump to an actual filesystem? (Or is my head thinking too Solaris) Actually I could see why, but I don't think it is a good idea. -brian __

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs boot image conversion kit is posted

2007-04-25 Thread Brian Hechinger
On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 04:36:46PM -0700, Malachi de ??lfweald wrote: > That's awesome! > > So, to clarify... If I burn the b62_zfsboot.iso to a DVD and boot from it > with the intention of doing a fresh install Yes. Upgrade/Flash installs are not availble with zfs boot yet. > What are the

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs boot image conversion kit is posted

2007-04-25 Thread Malachi de Ælfweald
That's awesome! So, to clarify... If I burn the b62_zfsboot.iso to a DVD and boot from it with the intention of doing a fresh install What are the correct steps to do the setup with a zfs mirrored boot? Follow the installer? Follow the netinstall or Tom's instructions? Thanks, Malachi On 4/

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs boot image conversion kit is posted

2007-04-25 Thread Brian Hechinger
As promised, here it is: https://jeffshare.jefferson.edu/users/blh008/Public/Solaris/ b62_zfsboot.iso.bz2 is a bootable patched b62 DVD. b62_zfsboot_cd1.iso.bz2 is a bootable patched b63 CD1. I'm not sure how useful this is unless you know how to tell pfinstall how to look to an NFS server for

RE: [zfs-discuss] XServe Raid & Complex Storage Considerations

2007-04-25 Thread Andy Lubel
They do need to start on the "next" filesystem and it seems very ideal for Apple. If they didn't then apple will be making a huge mistake because whatever FS's exist now, zfs has already pretty much trump'd it on almost every level except for maturity. I'm expecting ZFS and ISCSI(initiator and ta

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Re: Re: concatination & stripe - zfs?

2007-04-25 Thread Cyril Plisko
On 4/25/07, shay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Those are the result of my preformance test : Conclutions : 1. the dual HBA qla2342 is not a parallel at all. so it is better to use 2 single HBAs then one dual HBA. That would surprise me. Can it be that you are saturating the PCI slot you 2342

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Status Update before Reinstall?

2007-04-25 Thread Lori Alt
Mike Dotson wrote: On Wed, 2007-04-25 at 14:45 -0600, Lori Alt wrote: oliver soell wrote: I just installed a mirrored root system last night, but using Tim Foster's zfs-actual-root-install.sh script on a clean install of b62 (http://blogs.sun.com/timf/entry/zfs_bootable_datasets_happi

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Status Update before Reinstall?

2007-04-25 Thread Mike Dotson
On Wed, 2007-04-25 at 14:45 -0600, Lori Alt wrote: > oliver soell wrote: > > I just installed a mirrored root system last night, but using Tim Foster's > > zfs-actual-root-install.sh script on a clean install of b62 > > (http://blogs.sun.com/timf/entry/zfs_bootable_datasets_happily_rumbling). > >

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Status Update before Reinstall?

2007-04-25 Thread Lori Alt
oliver soell wrote: I just installed a mirrored root system last night, but using Tim Foster's zfs-actual-root-install.sh script on a clean install of b62 (http://blogs.sun.com/timf/entry/zfs_bootable_datasets_happily_rumbling). You mention that no UFS slices are necessary using the patched DV

[zfs-discuss] Re: Re: Re: concatination & stripe - zfs?

2007-04-25 Thread shay
Those are the result of my preformance test : time -p "dd if=/dev/zero of=/ZFS_pool/testfile bs=1024k count=20480 && /bin/sync" (also I change on the server the kernel parameter -> ssd_max_throttle=32) seconds__write the file on zpool that biuld from --

Re: [zfs-discuss] Status Update before Reinstall?

2007-04-25 Thread Lori Alt
Sorry I didn't get respond to this earlier. Due to a really dumb mistake on my part (long embarrassing story omitted), I lost access to my mail for two days. Answers below: Malachi de Ælfweald wrote: I currently have b60 kinda installed (there, but still having some issues learning my way arou

Re: [zfs-discuss] XServe Raid & Complex Storage Considerations

2007-04-25 Thread Ben Gollmer
On Apr 25, 2007, at 10:54 AM, Andy Lubel wrote: The Xraid is a very well thought of storage device with a heck of a price point. Attached is an image of the "Settings"/"Performance" Screen where you see "Allow Host Cache Flushing". I think when you use ZFS, it would be best to uncheck that

Re: [zfs-discuss] XServe Raid & Complex Storage Considerations

2007-04-25 Thread Luke Scharf
Toby Thain wrote: On 25-Apr-07, at 12:17 PM, cedric briner wrote: hello the list, After reading the _excellent_ ZFS Best Practices Guide, I've seen in the section: ZFS and Complex Storage Consideration that we should configure the storage system to ignore command which will flush the memor

Re: [zfs-discuss] XServe Raid & Complex Storage Considerations

2007-04-25 Thread Toby Thain
On 25-Apr-07, at 12:17 PM, cedric briner wrote: hello the list, After reading the _excellent_ ZFS Best Practices Guide, I've seen in the section: ZFS and Complex Storage Consideration that we should configure the storage system to ignore command which will flush the memory into the disk.

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS on NetBSD (was: zfs performance on fuse...)

2007-04-25 Thread eric kustarz
On Apr 25, 2007, at 9:16 AM, Oliver Gould wrote: Hello- I was planning on sending out a more formal sort of introduction in a few weeks, but.. hey- it came up. I will be porting ZFS to NetBSD this summer. Some info on this project can be found at: http://www.olix0r.net/bitbucket/i

[zfs-discuss] ZFS on NetBSD (was: zfs performance on fuse...)

2007-04-25 Thread Oliver Gould
Hello- I was planning on sending out a more formal sort of introduction in a few weeks, but.. hey- it came up. I will be porting ZFS to NetBSD this summer. Some info on this project can be found at: http://www.olix0r.net/bitbucket/index.cgi/netbsd/zfs and http://netbsd-soc.sf.ne

[zfs-discuss] Re: Re: zfs performance on fuse (Linux) compared to

2007-04-25 Thread Ollivier Robert
NetBSD could reuse Pawel's work on FreeBSD but it sits on top of GEOM, something NetBSD does not have. It greatly helped the porting work as Pawel is already a GEOM wizard (gmirror, gjournal and all that). This message posted from opensolaris.org _

Re: [zfs-discuss] XServe Raid & Complex Storage Considerations

2007-04-25 Thread Wade . Stuart
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 04/25/2007 10:17:50 AM: > hello the list, > > After reading the _excellent_ ZFS Best Practices Guide, I've seen in the > section: ZFS and Complex Storage Consideration that we should configure > the storage system to ignore command which will flush the memory into >

[zfs-discuss] XServe Raid & Complex Storage Considerations

2007-04-25 Thread cedric briner
hello the list, After reading the _excellent_ ZFS Best Practices Guide, I've seen in the section: ZFS and Complex Storage Consideration that we should configure the storage system to ignore command which will flush the memory into the disk. So does some of you knows how to tell Xserve Raid t

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: zfs performance on fuse (Linux) compared to other fs

2007-04-25 Thread Rayson Ho
On 4/24/07, Brian Hechinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Also keep in mind that FUSE has the disadvantage of data needing to pass the userland/kernel barrier typically at least twice, so there will be some slowdown there most likely. I think it depends on how the Linux kernel handles the interfac

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: zfs performance on fuse (Linux) compared to other fs

2007-04-25 Thread Ricardo Correia
Brian Hechinger wrote: > I think someone needs to port ZFS to NetBSD, they are in dired need of > a better filesystem. ;) Already being done: http://code.google.com/soc/netbsd/about.html Isn't the Google SoC great? :) ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-