Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Big JBOD: what would you do?

2006-07-21 Thread Rob Logan
perhaps these are good picks: 5 x (7+2) 1 hot spare 35 data disks <- best safety 5 x (8+1) 1 hot spare 40 data disks <- best space 9 x (4+1) 1 hot spare 36 data disks <- best speed 1 x (45+1) 0 hot spare 45 data disks <- max space 23x (1+1) 0 hot spare 23 data disks <- max speed it

Re: [zfs-discuss] Boot hangs

2006-07-21 Thread Stephen Hahn
* Karen Chau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-07-21 19:09]: > Hi, > Our server is hung at boot up. I tried boot -s, hangs at the same place. > > *** SUMMARY of behavior *** > > Using boot, it hangs after displaying line: > Hostname: itsm-mpk-2 > > So tried using "boot -v" to show more detail. It now >

[zfs-discuss] Boot hangs

2006-07-21 Thread Karen Chau
Hi, Our server is hung at boot up. I tried boot -s, hangs at the same place. *** SUMMARY of behavior *** Using boot, it hangs after displaying line: Hostname: itsm-mpk-2 So tried using "boot -v" to show more detail. It now hangs after 4 more lines are displayed: - BEGIN HERE - px_pci1

[zfs-discuss] Re: Big JBOD: what would you do?

2006-07-21 Thread Lance
> This gives a nice bias towards one of the following > configurations: > > - 5x(7+2), 1 hot spare, 17.5TB [corrected] > - 4x(9+2), 2 hot spares, 18.0TB > - 6x(5+2), 4 hot spares, 15.0TB In addition to Eric's suggestions, I would be interested in these configs for 46 disks: 5

Re: [zfs-discuss] Good 8 or 16 port x86 PCI SATA card

2006-07-21 Thread Al Hopper
On Fri, 21 Jul 2006, Shannon Roddy wrote: > Hi All, > > I have looked on the HCL list for Sol 10 x86 without much luck. I am > looking for a 8 or 16 port SATA card for a JBOD Sol 10 x86 ZFS > installation. Anyone know of one that is well supported in Sol 10? I > am starting to do some testing w

Re: [zfs-discuss] Good 8 or 16 port x86 PCI SATA card

2006-07-21 Thread Casper . Dik
>Hi All, > >I have looked on the HCL list for Sol 10 x86 without much luck. I am >looking for a 8 or 16 port SATA card for a JBOD Sol 10 x86 ZFS >installation. Anyone know of one that is well supported in Sol 10? I >am starting to do some testing with an LSI Logic 320-XLP SATA RAID card, >but s

[zfs-discuss] Good 8 or 16 port x86 PCI SATA card

2006-07-21 Thread Shannon Roddy
Hi All, I have looked on the HCL list for Sol 10 x86 without much luck. I am looking for a 8 or 16 port SATA card for a JBOD Sol 10 x86 ZFS installation. Anyone know of one that is well supported in Sol 10? I am starting to do some testing with an LSI Logic 320-XLP SATA RAID card, but so far as

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs sucking down my memory!?

2006-07-21 Thread Joseph Mocker
Ah ha. Interesting procedure and bug report. This is starting to make sense. Another interesting bug report: 6416757 zfs could still use less memory This one is more or less the same thing I have noticed. I guess I'll add some swap for the short term. :-( --joe Roch wrote: I just ran:

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs sucking down my memory!?

2006-07-21 Thread Roch
I just ran: [EMAIL PROTECTED](129): mkfile 5000M f3 Could not set length of f3: No space left on device Which fails in anon_resvmem: dtrace -n fbt::anon_resvmem:return/arg1==0/[EMAIL PROTECTED](20)]=count()} tmpfs`tmp_resv+0x50 tmpfs`wrtmp+0x28c

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs sucking down my memory!?

2006-07-21 Thread Casper . Dik
>Are you trying to convince me that having applications/application data >occasionally swapped out to disk is actually faster than keeping it all >in memory? Yes. Having more memory available generally causes the system to be a faster. >I have another box, which I LU'd to U1 a while ago. Its

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs sucking down my memory!?

2006-07-21 Thread Jim Mauro
I need to read through this more thoroughly to get my head around it, but on my first pass, what jumps out at me is that something significant _changed_ in terms of "application" behavior with the introduction of ZFS. I'm saying that that is a bad thing, or a good thing, but it is an important

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs sucking down my memory!?

2006-07-21 Thread Rainer Orth
Bill Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, Jul 22, 2006 at 12:44:16AM +0800, Darren Reed wrote: > > Bart Smaalders wrote: > > > > >I just swap on a zvol w/ my ZFS root machine. > > > > > > I haven't been watching...what's the current status of using > > ZFS for swap/dump? > > > > Is a/th

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs sucking down my memory!?

2006-07-21 Thread Joseph Mocker
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We've kind of side tracked, but Yes, I do understand the limitations of running without swap. However, in the interest of performance, I, and in fact my whole organization which runs about 300 servers, disable swap. We've never had an out of memory problem in the past

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs sucking down my memory!?

2006-07-21 Thread Casper . Dik
>We've kind of side tracked, but Yes, I do understand the limitations of >running without swap. However, in the interest of performance, I, and in >fact my whole organization which runs about 300 servers, disable swap. >We've never had an out of memory problem in the past because of kernel >m

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs sucking down my memory!?

2006-07-21 Thread Joseph Mocker
Bart Smaalders wrote: Joseph Mocker wrote: Bart Smaalders wrote: How much swap space is configured on this machine? Zero. Is there any reason I would want to configure any swap space? --joe Well, if you want to allocate 500 MB in /tmp, and your machine has no swap, you need 500M of phys

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs sucking down my memory!?

2006-07-21 Thread Joseph Mocker
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes. In this particular case: total: 213728k bytes allocated + 8896k reserved = 222624k used, 11416864k available you have 9MB of "reserved" memory which means it is memory which is not doing anything. Then there is a lot of "dirty" data which is never used again and

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs sucking down my memory!?

2006-07-21 Thread Bill Moore
On Sat, Jul 22, 2006 at 12:44:16AM +0800, Darren Reed wrote: > Bart Smaalders wrote: > > >I just swap on a zvol w/ my ZFS root machine. > > > I haven't been watching...what's the current status of using > ZFS for swap/dump? > > Is a/the swap solution to use mkswap and then specify that file > i

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs sucking down my memory!?

2006-07-21 Thread Darren Reed
Bart Smaalders wrote: ... I just swap on a zvol w/ my ZFS root machine. I haven't been watching...what's the current status of using ZFS for swap/dump? Is a/the swap solution to use mkswap and then specify that file in vfstab? Darren ___ zfs-dis

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can't remove corrupt file

2006-07-21 Thread Bill Moore
On Fri, Jul 21, 2006 at 07:22:17AM -0600, Gregory Shaw wrote: > After reading the ditto blocks blog (good article, btw), an idea > occurred to me: > > Since we use ditto blocks to preserve critical filesystem data, would > it be practical to add a filesystem property that would cause all > f

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs sucking down my memory!?

2006-07-21 Thread Bart Smaalders
Joseph Mocker wrote: Bart Smaalders wrote: How much swap space is configured on this machine? Zero. Is there any reason I would want to configure any swap space? --joe Well, if you want to allocate 500 MB in /tmp, and your machine has no swap, you need 500M of physical memory or the writ

Re: [zfs-discuss] legato support

2006-07-21 Thread Luc I. Suryo
as promissed: not working... only the directories are getting created/backuped... zici:/export/projects/.zfs/snapshot: No full backups of this save set were found in the media database; performing a full backup * zici:/export/projects/.zfs/snapshot save: Unable to read ACL * information for

Re[2]: [zfs-discuss] Can't remove corrupt file

2006-07-21 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Gregory, Friday, July 21, 2006, 3:22:17 PM, you wrote: > After reading the ditto blocks blog (good article, btw), an idea occurred to me: Since we use ditto blocks to preserve critical filesystem data, would it be practical to add a filesystem property that would cause all files i

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can't remove corrupt file

2006-07-21 Thread Gregory Shaw
After reading the ditto blocks blog (good article, btw), an idea occurred to me:Since we use ditto blocks to preserve critical filesystem data, would it be practical to add a filesystem property that would cause all files in a filesystem to be stored as mirrored blocks?That would allow a dual-copy

Re: [zfs-discuss] legato support

2006-07-21 Thread Rainer Orth
Gregory, > I've been backing up ZFS with NetBackup 5.1 without issue. I won't > say it does everything, but I am able to backup and restore > individual files. I know: we're actually using 4.5 at the moment ;-) My question was specificialy about ACL support. I think the ZFS Admin Guide me

Re: [zfs-discuss] legato support

2006-07-21 Thread Gregory Shaw
I've been backing up ZFS with NetBackup 5.1 without issue.   I won't say it does everything, but I am able to backup and restore individual files.On Jul 21, 2006, at 7:08 AM, Rainer Orth wrote:Anne Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: The EMC/Legato NetWorker (a.k.a. Sun StorEdge EBS) support for ZFS N

Re: [zfs-discuss] legato support

2006-07-21 Thread Rainer Orth
Anne Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The EMC/Legato NetWorker (a.k.a. Sun StorEdge EBS) support for ZFS > NFSv4/ACLs will be in NetWorker 7.3.2 release currently targeting for > September release. Any word on equivalent support in VERITAS/Symantec NetBackup? Rainer --

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs sucking down my memory!?

2006-07-21 Thread Casper . Dik
>Bart Smaalders wrote: > >> >> How much swap space is configured on this machine? > >Zero. Is there any reason I would want to configure any swap space? Yes. In this particular case: total: 213728k bytes allocated + 8896k reserved = 222624k used, 11416864k available you have 9MB of "reserved

Re[2]: [zfs-discuss] Can't remove corrupt file

2006-07-21 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Bill, Friday, July 21, 2006, 7:31:25 AM, you wrote: BM> On Thu, Jul 20, 2006 at 03:45:54PM -0700, Jeff Bonwick wrote: >> > However, we do have the advantage of always knowing when something >> > is corrupted, and knowing what that particular block should have been. >> >> We also have ditt