[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We've kind of side tracked, but Yes, I do understand the limitations of running without swap. However, in the interest of performance, I, and in fact my whole organization which runs about 300 servers, disable swap. We've never had an out of memory problem in the past because of kernel memory. Is that wrong? We can't typically afford to have the kernel swap out portions of the application to disk and back.

Why do you think your performance *improves* if you don't use
swap?  It is much more likely it *deteriates* because your swap
accumulates stuff you do not use.


Are you trying to convince me that having applications/application data occasionally swapped out to disk is actually faster than keeping it all in memory?

I have another box, which I LU'd to U1 a while ago. Its actually my primary desktop, a 2100z. After the upgrade I noticed my browser, firefox, was running slower. It was sluggish to respond when say I moved from reading my mail with thunderbird to firefox.

Looked at swap, wait a minute, LU switched on an inactive swap partition I had disabled long ago.

Removed the swap partition, and now everything is quite snappy.

The question really becomes, how do I "pin" desirable applications in memory while only allowing "dirty" memory to be shifted out to disk.

And still regardless of the swap issue. The bigger issue is that ZFS has about 1G of memory it won't free up for applications. Is it relying on the existance of swap to dump those pages out? Or should it be releasing memory itself?

 --joe

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