Re: Lost sliding windows w/ DVI Syncmaster monitor

2020-04-03 Thread Felix Miata
Paul Rogers composed on 2020-04-03 00:22 (UTC-0700): >> on it I found IceWM behaved as expected (working panning), but didn't include >> that activity in the response. > That's probably much closer to working here than your DEs! How did you do it? I don't think I did anything that I didn't alre

Re: Lost sliding windows w/ DVI Syncmaster monitor

2020-04-03 Thread Paul Rogers
>Were you expecting it to affect X in some manner? Consequent to my comment, no >joy WRT what? I don't know--I never knew anything about X internals, never had to because what I used worked OK, and know even less now. But even a blind dog finds a bone once in a while. I was hoping to get lucky

Re: Lost sliding windows w/ DVI Syncmaster monitor

2020-04-02 Thread Felix Miata
Paul Rogers composed on 2020-04-02 18:18 (UTC-0700): > ...vga=791 video=1024x768 at 60 3 nouveau.modeset=0... > the vga= implies framebuffers It only affects the vttys, and then only if KMS disabled. IOW, no expected impact on X. > video= for VESA driver With NVidia and AMD GPUs, this applie

Re: Lost sliding windows w/ DVI Syncmaster monitor

2020-04-02 Thread Paul Rogers
> I made 3 OS & hardware combinations deliver panning as expected with a > condensed > and consolidated version of your xorg.conf.d/ files relevant to video > configuration. I found nothing in them relevant to KP+ or KP-, which didn't > work > for me for any of the three. The Kubuntu is a version

Re: Lost sliding windows w/ DVI Syncmaster monitor

2020-04-02 Thread Felix Miata
Paul Rogers composed on 2020-04-02 09:09 (UTC-0700): > KP+ & KP- do work with the VESA driver on my VGA monitors, > and this server. It's one of my main reasons for using VESA--a key press is > so > much faster and easier than xrandr. My xorg.conf with this system specifies > VESA still, and it

Re: Lost sliding windows w/ DVI Syncmaster monitor

2020-04-02 Thread Alex Deucher
On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 12:09 PM Paul Rogers wrote: > > > I'm not familiar with the vesa or nouveau drivers and whether or not > > they support panning. One thing you could try however is to > > VESA has been panning all along with my VGA monitors. > > > temporarily disable your xorg configs and e

Re: Lost sliding windows w/ DVI Syncmaster monitor

2020-04-02 Thread Paul Rogers
> I'm not familiar with the vesa or nouveau drivers and whether or not > they support panning. One thing you could try however is to VESA has been panning all along with my VGA monitors. > temporarily disable your xorg configs and enable panning dynamically > at runtime using xrandr just to see

Re: Lost sliding windows w/ DVI Syncmaster monitor

2020-04-02 Thread Alex Deucher
On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 4:03 PM Paul Rogers wrote: > > > I don't think it has anything to do with the Samsung or the Dell, but > > rather with > > however you are trying to configure. How exactly are you configuring? > > See attachment. Or are you asking for the build options for the server? > >

Re: Lost sliding windows w/ DVI Syncmaster monitor

2020-04-02 Thread Paul Rogers
> Rather than a configuration of the type you're familiar with, I'll bet > the newer way will work, if not with your custom installed system, at > least with a common recent live media distro as a means of proving. 1) One of the reasons I've been making and running, ahem, Paul's Own Distro(s) sin

Re: Lost sliding windows w/ DVI Syncmaster monitor

2020-04-01 Thread Felix Miata
Paul Rogers composed on 2020-04-01 13:02 (UTC-0700): >> I don't think it has anything to do with the Samsung or the Dell, but >> rather with >> however you are trying to configure. How exactly are you configuring? > See attachment. Or are you asking for the build options for the server? xorg

Re: Lost sliding windows w/ DVI Syncmaster monitor

2020-04-01 Thread Paul Rogers
> I don't think it has anything to do with the Samsung or the Dell, but > rather with > however you are trying to configure. How exactly are you configuring? See attachment. Or are you asking for the build options for the server? >> Please show us your GPU specification, thus: >> # inxi

Re: Lost sliding windows w/ DVI Syncmaster monitor

2020-04-01 Thread Paul Rogers
On Wed, Apr 1, 2020, at 11:25 AM, Alex Deucher wrote: > Panning has nothing to do with the monitor. It comes down the the > hardware limitations of the underlying device and what features are I'm guessing you mean "device" as used in xorg.conf, i.e. the video card? Obviously the monitor is a de

Re: Lost sliding windows w/ DVI Syncmaster monitor

2020-04-01 Thread Alex Deucher
On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 3:48 PM Paul Rogers wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 1, 2020, at 11:25 AM, Alex Deucher wrote: > > Panning has nothing to do with the monitor. It comes down the the > > hardware limitations of the underlying device and what features are > > I'm guessing you mean "device" as used in x

Re: Lost sliding windows w/ DVI Syncmaster monitor

2020-04-01 Thread Alex Deucher
On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 1:39 PM Paul Rogers wrote: > > > The effect you like is called panning. > > Thank you for that. I couldn't guess what the proper keyword would be for > searching, best I could think of was "sliding" and this got lots of hits on > vinyl windows! 8-( > > > > > I don't think

Re: Lost sliding windows w/ DVI Syncmaster monitor

2020-04-01 Thread Felix Miata
Paul Rogers composed on 2020-04-01 10:38 (UTC-0700): >> How exactly are you configuring? > I attached my X log. It's all but useless for the reasons I asked for it. I cannot but guesstimate how to try to reproduce without this information. >> of 1.18.4 server or driver is broken WRT panning.

Re: Lost sliding windows w/ DVI Syncmaster monitor

2020-04-01 Thread Paul Rogers
> The effect you like is called panning. Thank you for that. I couldn't guess what the proper keyword would be for searching, best I could think of was "sliding" and this got lots of hits on vinyl windows! 8-( > > I don't think it has anything to do with the Samsung or the Dell, but I'm quite

Re: Lost sliding windows w/ DVI Syncmaster monitor

2020-04-01 Thread Felix Miata
Paul Rogers composed on 2020-03-31 23:09 (UTC-0700): > For years, in xorg.conf I've enjoyed declaring a larger than > comfortable maximum resolution at the end of the modes, then one more > comfortable for my old eyes for use. Then I could slide the visible > window around the larger virtual wind