Re: [XXE] interested in a real XML editor

2015-12-01 Thread Barton Wright
Mr. Silli: You are jumping on a bandwagon that has a broken wheel. Do not presume that Mr. Wilson’s description of the line-ending actions of XXE is accurate. I manage a thousand-page doc set composed of over 1200 Subversion-hosted DocBook files. I edit these files using XXE on a Mac, XXE on Wi

Re: [XXE] interested in a real XML editor

2015-11-30 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 16:25:04 -0800 Garret Wilson wrote: > I (via my company, GlobalMentor, Inc.) am creating a course for > training developers in Java from the ground up. We have a group of > developers over half-way finished with the course, and soon I will be > starting another group of studen

Re: [XXE] interested in a real XML editor

2015-11-30 Thread Garret Wilson
On 11/30/2015 6:15 AM, Barton Wright wrote: ... Perhaps after you purchase your Oxygen license, you could move the weight and gravity of your expertise over to one of their forums. And. not. here. Dear Mr. Wright, I don't know who you are. I don't know who Mr. Silli is. I don't know where

Re: [XXE] interested in a real XML editor

2015-11-30 Thread Boris Goldowsky
At our organization multiple users, some on Macs and some on Windows laptops, work on files that are stored in a single shared filesystem (actually a WebDAV share). This directory is periodically checked in to version control. So in our use case it¹s important that the file endings be consistent

Re: [XXE] interested in a real XML editor

2015-11-30 Thread Hussein Shafie
Just to end the discussion and also to thank both Mr. Garret Wilson and Mr. Leif Halvard Silli for sharing their experiences with us. On 11/30/2015 12:55 PM, Leif Halvard Silli wrote: Reading the above page and your comments below, it is evident that problems could occur even if XXE on Windo

Re: [XXE] interested in a real XML editor

2015-11-30 Thread Leif Halvard Silli
On 30 Nov 2015, at 2:55, Garret Wilson wrote: Oh, but it is (Nothing ever _sounds_ problematic. But it always is.) Read this the following... and this is only the tip of the iceberg: [http://adaptivepatchwork.com/2012/03/01/mind-the-end-of-your-line/](http://adaptivepatchwork.com/2012/03/

Re: [XXE] interested in a real XML editor

2015-11-30 Thread Leif Halvard Silli
On 28 Nov 2015, at 10:43, Hussein Shafie wrote: Header First Second [...] the above snippet is displayed as follows (no matter the snippet contains CRLF or just LFs): --- Header (empty line; in fact empty text node) First (empty line; in fact empty text node) Second --- Given that XXE’s

Re: [XXE] interested in a real XML editor

2015-11-30 Thread Garret Wilson
I (via my company, GlobalMentor, Inc.) am creating a course for training developers in Java from the ground up. We have a group of developers over half-way finished with the course, and soon I will be starting another group of students in Brazil (where they speak Portuguese). I personally am w

Re: [XXE] interested in a real XML editor

2015-11-30 Thread Leif Halvard Silli
On 30 Nov 2015, at 1:25, Garret Wilson wrote: My requirements are simple: ... snip ... * The line endings are correct (CRLF vs LF) for the platform. ... snip ... Let's see what's out there: ... * XXE: Very good at maintaining structure and attributes (if I remember correctly), but: o T

Re: [XXE] interested in a real XML editor

2015-11-30 Thread Garret Wilson
On 11/29/2015 5:44 PM, Leif Halvard Silli wrote: ... But the fact that XMLmind will, upon opening the checked out file, reconvert the CRLF to LF, does not sound extremely problematic ... Oh, but it is (Nothing ever /sounds/ problematic. But it always is.) Read this the follo

Re: [XXE] interested in a real XML editor

2015-11-30 Thread Leif Halvard Silli
On 27 Nov 2015, at 22:25, Garret Wilson wrote: I'm extremely interested in licensing XMLMind. Perhaps you have said this before (in another thread sometime), but why are - or were - your interested in the XMLmind editor? What are the good things that made you consider licensing it? -- leif

Re: [XXE] interested in a real XML editor

2015-11-29 Thread Garret Wilson
Hussein, thank you for explaining the issue; I now understand that instead of indenting (what I would expect from "pretty printing"), XXE adds extra lines. I also understand this behavior can be disabled. I still don't understand, however, why it is so hard for you to use System.getProperty("li

Re: [XXE] interested in a real XML editor

2015-11-29 Thread Hussein Shafie
On 11/29/2015 12:51 AM, Garret Wilson wrote: On 11/28/2015 3:26 PM, Gregg Reynolds wrote: ... "Unfortunately XXE converted all my XHTML5 ends-of-line from CRLF to LFLF!" isn't good enough; if XXE really did do such a silly thing I want to know about it, but I need to know how to reproduce it.

Re: [XXE] interested in a real XML editor

2015-11-29 Thread Gregg Reynolds
s On Sat, Nov 28, 2015 at 8:34 AM, Garret Wilson wrote: > On 11/28/2015 1:43 AM, Hussein Shafie wrote: > > ... > > Unfortunately XXE converted all my XHTML5 ends-of-line from CRLF to > LFLF!!! It wasn't enough the XXE would convert every CRLF to LF (which > would be the semantic conversion, as C

Re: [XXE] interested in a real XML editor

2015-11-29 Thread Garret Wilson
On 11/28/2015 3:26 PM, Gregg Reynolds wrote: ... "Unfortunately XXE converted all my XHTML5 ends-of-line from CRLF to LFLF!" isn't good enough; if XXE really did do such a silly thing I want to know about it, but I need to know how to reproduce it. Certainly! I'll be glad to help in any way!!

Re: [XXE] interested in a real XML editor

2015-11-28 Thread Garret Wilson
On 11/28/2015 1:43 AM, Hussein Shafie wrote: ... Unfortunately XXE converted all my XHTML5 ends-of-line from CRLF to LFLF!!! It wasn't enough the XXE would convert every CRLF to LF (which would be the semantic conversion, as CRLF represents only a single EOL), but XXE converted every CRLF to LFL

Re: [XXE] interested in a real XML editor

2015-11-28 Thread Hussein Shafie
On 11/27/2015 10:25 PM, Garret Wilson wrote: XMLMind, I'm extremely interested in licensing XMLMind. I have actually evaluated XMLMind over the years; perhaps Hussein Shafie will remember talking to me back in 2012. I now need to edit documentation in XHTML5. I'm willing to pay for a good XML e