Am 24.02.2010 um 23:47 schrieb Herbert Schulz:
>
> On Feb 24, 2010, at 1:30 PM, Philipp Stephani wrote:
>
>> Am 24.02.2010 um 20:13 schrieb Philipp Stephani:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I'm trying to use Hoefler Text on OS X 10.6, but xelatex s
Am 20.03.2010 um 00:33 schrieb Peter Dyballa:
>
> Am 20.03.2010 um 00:13 schrieb David Perry:
>
>> When I started learning TeX, I could find only one editor, TeXworks, that
>> was Unicode-aware. And that is still the case, although I see that
>> TeXnicCenter has now rolled out an alpha versio
Am 20.03.2010 um 00:41 schrieb Peter Baker:
> Peter Dyballa wrote:
>>
>> Am 20.03.2010 um 00:13 schrieb David Perry:
>>
>>> When I started learning TeX, I could find only one editor, TeXworks, that
>>> was Unicode-aware. And that is still the case, although I see that
>>> TeXnicCenter has no
Am 20.03.2010 um 08:17 schrieb Janusz S. Bień:
> On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 Peter Baker wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>> Emacs hasn't been Unicode-aware for a whole long time;
>
> http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/unicode.html
>
> Emacs has quite good basic UTF-8 support starting from version 21.3
>
> Emacs
Am 20.03.2010 um 09:43 schrieb Philiрp Rеichmuth:
> In general, however, both TeX and Emacs have been quite
> a bit behind the curve. TeX still is in many ways (BibTeX comes to mind).
> XeTeX is the big exception.
This is only true for LaTeX, ConTeXt is a fairly modern system.
-
Am 26.04.2010 um 21:23 schrieb Herbert Schulz:
>
> On Apr 26, 2010, at 11:44 AM, Khaled Hosny wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 12:11:52PM -0400, Peter Baker wrote:
>>> This is because Junicode does not have precisely the same character
>>> set in all faces.
>>
>> That is one reason I person
Am 13.05.2010 um 05:21 schrieb Andrew Moschou:
> Actually, now that I think about it, it might have something to do with the
> active character: ". Both German babel and mathspec define it and there might
> be an incompatibility.
Try using polyglossia instead of babel: The latter was written w
Am 30.05.2010 um 19:44 schrieb Eelis van der Weegen:
> When I compile the attached t.tex with xelatex I get the attached t.pdf,
> in which the big pi has somehow switched positions with 'a'. What's
> going on here? :)
The listings package hasn't been updated for a long time and is completely
Un
Am 01.08.2010 um 09:28 schrieb Ron Aaron:
> On Sunday 01 August 2010 10:16:27 Paul Isambert wrote:
>
>> Indeed, the \mark won't end up on the main vertical list. In the latest
>> TUGboat issue, Hans Hagen writes about this and proposes a nice
>> solution... but with LuaTeX!
>
> Hmm. I really n
Am 17.08.2010 um 10:31 schrieb Peter Dyballa:
> Has Thunderbird a way to send a message to this list without usurping an
> existing thread?
Posting a new message (without using the answer function) to xetex@tug.org
should start a new thread.
--
Am 19.08.2010 um 16:51 schrieb Alan Munn:
> On Aug 18, 2010, at 1:44 PM, chagrins wrote:
>
>> With Adobe Garamond Pro, when I use
>>
>> \defaultfontfeatures{Numbers={Proportional,OldStyle}}
>>
>> ...it also outputs "lowercase" symbols - for example, the dollar sign
>> matches the numbers.
>>
Am 08.09.2010 um 08:46 schrieb Wilfred van Rooijen:
> Hi all,
>
>> But why ? What exactly do you dislike about the use
>> of
>> sans serif for headings ? To my mind, and in a
>> scientific
>> as opposed to artistic context, sans serif headings with
>> serif prose seem absolutely normal and fin
Am 10.09.2010 um 19:24 schrieb Michiel Kamermans:
> and I personally jumped straight into xelatex because the internet told me it
> was the only unicode-aware flavour of TeX
That is not correct, LuaTeX is Unicode-based as well.
> making the choice ridiculously easy.
It's not at all "ridiculous
Am 11.09.2010 um 20:27 schrieb Michiel Kamermans:
> Hi Philipp,
>>> and I personally jumped straight into xelatex because the internet told me
>>> it was the only unicode-aware flavour of TeX
>>>
>> That is not correct, LuaTeX is Unicode-based as well.
>>
>
> Sure, but LuaTeX wasn't aro
Am 12.09.2010 um 04:12 schrieb Will Robertson:
> On 2010-09-12 05:11:54 +0930, Philipp Stephani said:
>
>> OpenType Math is still in a very early stage in XeTeX and has so many bugs
>> that it is not ready for production use.
>
> Thanks for the vote of confidence.
Am 12.09.2010 um 10:22 schrieb Apostolos Syropoulos:
>> greatly diminished. OpenType Math is still in a very early stage in XeTeX
>> and
>> has so many bugs that it is not ready for production use.
>
> I think this is a wrong statement: OpenType Math is by itself in early stage.
> Only
> two
Am 14.09.2010 um 16:44 schrieb Joel C. Salomon:
> I’ve not been following the recent back-and-forth regarding which
> XɘLaTeX packages are now obsolete, and which are compatible with LuaLaTeX.
>
> Right now my personal style files files have lines like these:
> \ifxetex
> \Re
Am 26.09.2010 um 06:13 schrieb David Perry:
> "Some editors, _mainly on Linux,_ support digraphs, two letters that are
> combined into one [not on] character." The compose function is hardly ever
> used on OS X or Windows;
He doesn't refer to the Compose key, but to editor support, which is
Am 26.09.2010 um 15:56 schrieb Axel Kielhorn:
> Is the compose feature you mention the same as dead keys?
No. Compose is a key available only from the X Window System. After hitting
Compose (it is not a modifier key), you can enter a known key sequence to get a
non-ASCII character; e.g., - - -
Am 26.09.2010 um 15:56 schrieb Axel Kielhorn:
>> Some operating systems or application offer "input systems" or "input
>> methods" which allow to enter non-standard characters.
>>
>> XeTeX also supports UTF-16 encodings. \XeTeXdefaultencoding{CharsetName} and
>> \XeTeXinputencoding{CharsetName}
Am 26.09.2010 um 16:44 schrieb David Perry:
>> On a Mac I can type \texttt{option-u u} to get an ü
> Mac OS has the best systemwide support for non-English characters, and has
> for a long time. Windows provides only a very awkward ALT key method that
> requires typing decimal or hex numbers.
Am 27.09.2010 um 01:16 schrieb Mojca Miklavec:
> Abstract: lshort needs a chapter/section about Unicode on its own.
>> From what I experience here, a lot of TeX users are so brain-washed to
> use \v{c} and alike
Well: this is the official way to enter the character č, as described in
lshort.pdf,
- Ursprüngliche Mail
> Von: Axel Kielhorn
> An: Unicode-based TeX for Mac OS X and other platforms
> Gesendet: Montag, den 27. September 2010, 16:45:18 Uhr
> Betreff: Re: [XeTeX] XeTeX in lshort
>
>
> Am 26.09.2010 um 19:11 schrieb Michiel Kamermans:
>
> > Windows users use things li
- Ursprüngliche Mail
> Von: Axel Kielhorn
> An: Unicode-based TeX for Mac OS X and other platforms
> Gesendet: Montag, den 27. September 2010, 16:46:00 Uhr
> Betreff: Re: [XeTeX] XeTeX in lshort
>
>
> Am 26.09.2010 um 18:10 schrieb Peter Dyballa:
>
> >
> > Am 26.09.2010 um 15:56 sc
Am 28.09.2010 um 02:20 schrieb David J. Perry:
> As a relative newcomer to Xe(La)TeX, and proponent of Unicode and
> multilingual computing for 15+ years, I was very surprised by the lack of
> Unicode support in the TeX world. I think what lshort and other tutorials
> need is a very clear and
Am 28.09.2010 um 21:16 schrieb Peter Dyballa:
>
> Am 28.09.2010 um 16:20 schrieb Tobias Schoel:
>
>> Can we now come back to the beginning problem:
>> Which way of creating unicode-encoded .tex-documents to propose in lshort?
>
> Using GNU Emacs 23.x – the Unicode Emacs (and any of its variants
Am 29.09.2010 um 21:26 schrieb Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd):
>
>
> Tobias Schoel wrote:
>
>> I wouldn't recommend anything other than kile for linux users. for me it
>> offers the fastest way of texing.
>>
>> I tried emacs when we got the task of learning and testing a bit of lisp
>> in u
Am 01.10.2010 um 08:25 schrieb Tobias Schoel:
> Hi,
>
> of course, any document has structure and formatting, even plain txt-files
> have. That's not the point. The point I made, and you wrote it yourself:
> - In TeX you explicitly state the structure/format.
In TeX you cannot state the struct
Am 01.10.2010 um 00:49 schrieb Elliott Roper:
>> As far a documentation is concerned look at the LaTeX Companion for packages.
> ..and that's where I get a bit taken aback. The book arrives last Saturday. I
> head for the Index for the bits I really need.
> XeTeX - nada
> fontspec - zip
> Unicode
Am 01.10.2010 um 00:14 schrieb Peter Dyballa:
>
> Am 30.09.2010 um 00:42 schrieb Alan Munn:
>
>> And I deal with a broad range of students at a major US research university.
>
>
> U.S. American students are not a gauge for Earth's youth.
I didn't talk about American students. What I describe
Am 30.09.2010 um 20:12 schrieb Elliott Roper:
> What I'm lacking is a set of beginner documents that ties all the TeX zoo
> together. Do I have to read source to find the definitive answer to which
> package has what package as a pre-requisite?
Yes, and that won't change until LaTeX becomes a s
Am 30.09.2010 um 17:33 schrieb Axel Kielhorn:
>> The attractiveness to using LaTeX to exchange documents (in the past,
>> and to a large extent, even now) is that you can be sure that the
>> source file can be read by your computer, even if you don't have the
>> same fonts or language support (EOL
Am 30.09.2010 um 16:01 schrieb Keith J. Schultz:
> With Tex et al. the structure/formatting commands are in document verbatim.
> When using TeX et al. you are more aware of what you are doing
I don't know if that is really true. It's relatively easy to find out the
current style of a character/p
Am 30.09.2010 um 12:27 schrieb Keith J. Schultz:
> The same should be true of xelshort. It should:
I find your list very useful, but it seems to focus more on the differences
between XeLaTeX and pdfLaTeX. What I have in mind is a document that should be
readable for beginners who have never use
Am 30.09.2010 um 09:36 schrieb Tobias Schoel:
> Hi,
>
> there are three kinds of people who should learn TeX&Co:
> - those who absolutely need TeX, because no other system let's them produce
> the documents they have to (all this linguistis and co. [don't take offense,
> I have no idea of the p
Am 30.09.2010 um 00:42 schrieb Alan Munn:
>
> On Sep 29, 2010, at 5:59 PM, Peter Dyballa wrote:
>
>>
>> Am 29.09.2010 um 23:40 schrieb Philipp Stephani:
>>
>>> reality is approximately as follows: Users who read beginner documents such
>>> as ls
Am 02.10.2010 um 21:22 schrieb Alan Munn:
> On Oct 2, 2010, at 2:47 PM, Philipp Stephani wrote:
>
>> Am 30.09.2010 um 09:36 schrieb Tobias Schoel:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> there are three kinds of people who should learn TeX&Co:
>>> - th
Am 02.10.2010 um 21:52 schrieb Paul Isambert:
> Le 02/10/2010 21:22, Alan Munn a écrit :
>> On Oct 2, 2010, at 2:47 PM, Philipp Stephani wrote:
>>
>>> Am 30.09.2010 um 09:36 schrieb Tobias Schoel:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> ther
Am 02.10.2010 um 23:56 schrieb Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd):
>
>
> Philipp Stephani wrote:
>
>> Indeed I've already seen questions in LaTeX forums on how to achieve Word's
>> math typesetting quality in LaTeX.
>
> Could you please c
Am 03.10.2010 um 06:12 schrieb David Perry:
> I just updated MiKTeX; I noticed that both hyperref and memoir were included
> in the update. Now my book (which uses memoir) won't compile.
>
> The following lines have been in my preamble for months without change:
>
> \usepackage[hypertex,
>
Am 03.10.2010 um 10:00 schrieb Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd):
>
>
> Philipp Stephani wrote:
>
>> Here (in German):
>> http://www.golatex.de/latex-mathe-font-fuer-bildschirm-t3664.html
>>
>> Although I have to admit that in that case the quality i
Am 03.10.2010 um 10:07 schrieb Peter Dyballa:
>
> Am 02.10.2010 um 17:02 schrieb Drébon:
>
>> Now, I am just searching for a replacement police for helvet that support
>> smallcaps (and to understand what was I intending to do with the problematic
>> \renewcommand*\sfdefault{ugq})
>
>
> Thi
Am 03.10.2010 um 10:14 schrieb Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd):
>
>
> Philipp Stephani wrote:
>
>> In TeX you cannot state the structure because TeX is a low-level
> > typesetting system that offers only a few low-level primitives
> > and a macro language.
Am 03.10.2010 um 14:02 schrieb David Perry:
> Heiko,
>
> Thank you for the reply.
>
> On 10/3/2010 4:41 AM, Heiko Oberdiek wrote:
>
>> This is correct. XeTeX is used to generate PDF, `hypertex' is
>> a driver for DVI mode. You can easily omit the option, because
>> XeTeX is automatically detec
Am 03.10.2010 um 15:52 schrieb Will Robertson:
> (Sent quickly. Please excuse brevity.)
>
> On 03/10/2010, at 11:41 PM, Philipp Stephani wrote:
>
>> Am 03.10.2010 um 14:02 schrieb David Perry:
>>
>>> If I omit the option, or use 'xetex' in place o
Am 05.10.2010 um 11:59 schrieb Nikos Platis:
> Consider the following minimal file:
>
> ---
> \documentclass[a4paper,10pt]{article}
> \usepackage{fontspec}
> \setmainfont{Candara}
> \begin{document}
> ά Ά έ Έ ή Ή ί Ί ϊ Ϊ ΐ ό Ό ύ Ύ ϋ Ϋ ΰ ώ Ώ
> \end{document}
> ---
>
> Using a ful
Am 17.10.2010 um 08:25 schrieb Roland Kuhn:
>
> On Oct 17, 2010, at 00:53 , Herbert Schulz wrote:
>
>>
>> On Oct 16, 2010, at 5:11 PM, Roland Kuhn wrote:
>>
>>> I wanted to try out different approaches to the french hyphenation problem
>>> involving apostrophes, thereby including
>>>
>>> \u
Am 17.10.2010 um 11:27 schrieb Roland Kuhn:
>
> On Oct 17, 2010, at 11:04 , Philipp Stephani wrote:
>
>>
>> Am 17.10.2010 um 08:25 schrieb Roland Kuhn:
>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 17, 2010, at 00:53 , Herbert Schulz wrote:
>>>
>>>>
Am 18.10.2010 um 19:21 schrieb Khaled Hosny:
> On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 07:00:24PM +0200, Pablo Rodríguez wrote:
>> Hi Will, Khaled and others,
>>
>> as Ulrike Fischer has noticed
>> (http://tug.org/pipermail/xetex/2010-October/018895.html), fontspec
>> enters in a loop italics are defined as sla
Am 18.10.2010 um 20:09 schrieb Pablo Rodríguez:
> On 10/18/2010 07:21 PM, Khaled Hosny wrote:
>> On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 07:00:24PM +0200, Pablo Rodríguez wrote:
>> [...]
>> I have no idea how this would be fixed, but github issue tracker[1] is the
>> proper place to report bug, at least to make
Am 06.11.2010 um 20:08 schrieb BPJ:
> Is it an optical illusion, or is the size of \textsuperscript and
> \textsubscript rather like \tiny than like \scriptsize?
minimal example please, latex.ltx does explicitly switch to the script size,
but of course any package can override that
--
- Ursprüngliche Mail
> Von: Tobias Schoel
> An: Unicode-based TeX for Mac OS X and other platforms
> Gesendet: Montag, den 22. November 2010, 7:18:19 Uhr
> Betreff: [XeTeX] accent circumflex with unicode-math
>
> The accents have different width. This might be wanted in text mode, but
- Ursprüngliche Mail
> Von: Khaled Hosny
> An: Unicode-based TeX for Mac OS X and other platforms
> Gesendet: Montag, den 22. November 2010, 14:43:02 Uhr
> Betreff: Re: [XeTeX] accent circumflex with unicode-math
>
> A bit simpler workaround that imitates TeX behaviour (unless someone
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