Re: [XeTeX] [tex-live] Seemingly inexplicable shift in page origin between TL 2014 and TL 2016

2016-07-15 Thread Ross Moore
Hi David, On Jul 15, 2016, at 4:47 PM, David Carlisle mailto:d.p.carli...@gmail.com>> wrote: Is there a mechanism similar to \hypersetup that allows the options to be changed *after* the package has been loaded? Not really, although the actual setting is in \AtBeginDocument{\AtBeginDVI so

Re: [XeTeX] [tex-live] Seemingly inexplicable shift in page origin between TL 2014 and TL 2016

2016-07-15 Thread Philip Taylor
David Carlisle wrote: > well that'll be the page size special change as mentioned earlier I > assume. > what does \usepackage [nosetpagesize]{color} do? Success :-) The page reverts to its correct position. Thank you, David. But when you say "that will be the page size special change menti

Re: [XeTeX] [tex-live] Seemingly inexplicable shift in page origin between TL 2014 and TL 2016

2016-07-15 Thread Ross Moore
Hi Phil. On Jul 15, 2016, at 5:28 PM, Philip Taylor mailto:p.tay...@rhul.ac.uk>> wrote: I am intrigued to know why a package intended to support colour would want to set page size, though, and wonder from where it gets its information regarding the intended page size, One of my messages answ

Re: [XeTeX] [tex-live] Seemingly inexplicable shift in page origin between TL 2014 and TL 2016

2016-07-15 Thread Philip Taylor
Ross Moore wrote: > One of my messages answered this. > It is so that \setpagecolor can work correctly. > A coloured rectangle is drawn, at the size of the full page. > \shipout is patched to do it on every page. OK, that makes sense ('though I would argue that it should be the author's resp

Re: [XeTeX] [tex-live] Seemingly inexplicable shift in page origin between TL 2014 and TL 2016

2016-07-15 Thread David Carlisle
Phil, > And why does : > >\input miniltx > \input color > /not/ change my page size ? as stated earlier, if used under latex the specified page size is known and set in the latex allocated registers \paperheight/paperwidth, but if used under plain these are not set and that section of x

Re: [XeTeX] [tex-live] Seemingly inexplicable shift in page origin between TL 2014 and TL 2016

2016-07-15 Thread Philip Taylor
P.S. Option "nosetpagesize" does not seem to appear in the PDF output of "TeXdoc color", for the version of 2016/05/22. ** Phil. -- Subscriptions, Archive, and List information, etc.: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/xetex

Re: [XeTeX] [tex-live] Seemingly inexplicable shift in page origin between TL 2014 and TL 2016

2016-07-15 Thread David Carlisle
On 15 July 2016 at 09:17, Philip Taylor wrote: > P.S. Option "nosetpagesize" does not seem to appear in the PDF output of > "TeXdoc color", for the version of 2016/05/22. well no, it wouldnt. 2016-06-02 David Carlisle * graphics.dtx, color.dtx, drivers.dtx: add pagesize special support

Re: [XeTeX] [tex-live] Seemingly inexplicable shift in page origin between TL 2014 and TL 2016

2016-07-15 Thread Philip Taylor
David Carlisle wrote: > as stated earlier, if used under latex the specified page size is known and > set in the latex allocated registers \paperheight/paperwidth, Sorry, either messages are arriving out of synch or some are getting lost in the post; I don't seem to recall any mention of this,

Re: [XeTeX] [tex-live] Seemingly inexplicable shift in page origin between TL 2014 and TL 2016

2016-07-15 Thread David Carlisle
but if you have an up to date system it is in the documented code (texdoc color.pdf) I should probably update grfguide at some point. David On 15 July 2016 at 09:24, David Carlisle wrote: > On 15 July 2016 at 09:17, Philip Taylor wrote: >> P.S. Option "nosetpagesize" does not seem to appear