Phil, > And why does : > > \input miniltx > \input color
> /not/ change my page size ? as stated earlier, if used under latex the specified page size is known and set in the latex allocated registers \paperheight/paperwidth, but if used under plain these are not set and that section of xetex.def is skipped (really if you insist on using plain you should be prepared to look at the fairly simple tests in xetex.def) in the eplain/\beginpackages use enough of latex internals are emulated to send xetex.def down the latex code path. David -------------------------------------------------- Subscriptions, Archive, and List information, etc.: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/xetex