Re: [XeTeX] I want to commit to xetex, how to make a pull request?

2022-12-13 Thread Joseph Wright
repo. Joseph On 13/12/2022 11:18, Tuff Contender wrote: Ummm stupid of me. The correct url is https://www.tug.org/svn/texlive/trunk/Build/source/texk/web2c/xetexdir/xetex.ch?r1=55885&r2=57724 , a commit on 2021-02-13. On Tue, Dec 13, 2022 at 7:06 PM Joseph Wright < joseph.wri...@mornin

Re: [XeTeX] I want to commit to xetex, how to make a pull request?

2022-12-13 Thread Joseph Wright
On 13/12/2022 11:03, Tuff Contender wrote: On Sat, Dec 10, 2022 at 6:22 PM Joseph Wright < joseph.wri...@morningstar2.co.uk> wrote: On 09/12/2022 19:07, Tuff Contender wrote: On 08/12/2022 09:22, Tuff Contender wrote: The code on XeTeX - Unicode-based TeX / Code / [

Re: [XeTeX] I want to commit to xetex, how to make a pull request?

2022-12-10 Thread Joseph Wright
On 09/12/2022 19:07, Tuff Contender wrote: On 08/12/2022 09:22, Tuff Contender wrote: The code on XeTeX - Unicode-based TeX / Code / [bc89c7] (sourceforge.net) seems not up to date, since the last modification is on 2020-01-20. [image: imag

Re: [XeTeX] I want to commit to xetex, how to make a pull request?

2022-12-08 Thread Joseph Wright
On 08/12/2022 09:22, Tuff Contender wrote: The code on XeTeX - Unicode-based TeX / Code / [bc89c7] (sourceforge.net) seems not up to date, since the last modification is on 2020-01-20. [image: image.png] Where should I submit a merge request

Re: [XeTeX] Uppercase in Armenian

2022-05-01 Thread Joseph Wright
On 30/04/2022 23:52, David Carlisle wrote: Something like this, I think. [image: image.png] \documentclass{article} \usepackage{polyglossia} \setdefaultlanguage{armenian} \setmainfont{DejaVu Sans} \ExplSyntaxOn \let\tuppercase\text_uppercase:n \ExplSyntaxOff \pagestyle{empty} \begin{document}

Re: [XeTeX] Uppercase in Armenian

2022-05-01 Thread Joseph Wright
On 01/05/2022 13:10, Jonathan Kew wrote: Hi Zdeněk, Checking the Unicode character database[1], U+0587 is listed as having a *compatibility* decomposition to <0565,0582> (not 0587): 0587;ARMENIAN SMALL LIGATURE ECH YIWN;Ll;0;L; 0565 0582N; Likewise, the SpecialCasing.txt file[2] that

Re: [XeTeX] Colour specials for XeTeX

2020-08-07 Thread Joseph Wright
On 07/08/2020 16:43, morris roger wrote: There are much simpler ways of adding colour; see https://ctan.org/pkg/do-it-yourself-tex where I include examples using opmac Roger H-F, Ottawa That's still wrappers around the same specials. Joseph

Re: [XeTeX] A LaTeX Unicode initialization desire/question/suggestion

2020-01-13 Thread Joseph Wright
On 13/01/2020 03:41, Doug McKenna wrote: | load-unicode-data handles some of the reading, but there is additional | reading (see l3unicode.dtx) that is in expl3.sty (in current xelatex | fomats) but will be preloaded in future releases and in the current | xelatex-dev release as noted above. I

Re: [XeTeX] [EXT] A LaTeX Unicode initialization desire/question/suggestion

2020-01-13 Thread Joseph Wright
On 13/01/2020 03:41, Doug McKenna wrote: Phil Taylor wrote: | So because JSBox is required/designed to incorporate all of XeTeX's | features, it must (by definition) implement/provide \Umathcode. Just to be clear, JSBox can eventually incorporate all of XeTeX's features (primitives), but doe

Re: [XeTeX] How much time to build LaTeX format for XeTeX

2019-12-05 Thread Joseph Wright
On 06/12/2019 03:15, Doug McKenna wrote: Given all the parsing of the Unicode character data files during INITEX, and all the inputting and creation of the hyphenation trees, how much CPU time elapses while building the XeTeX format file for LateX? I'm going to assume that the writing out of

Re: [XeTeX] Math class initialization in Unicde-aware engine

2019-12-02 Thread Joseph Wright
On 02/12/2019 17:52, Doug McKenna wrote: Joseph - A similar ambiguity occurs later in the README.md file. It says - \Umathcode for all letters as TeX class 7 (var) Does "letters" mean those code points on the TeX side with \catcode 11, or those Unicode code points labeled with 'L' in Unicode

Re: [XeTeX] Math class initialization in Unicde-aware engine

2019-12-01 Thread Joseph Wright
On 02/12/2019 05:56, Doug McKenna wrote: - \lccode and/or \uccode for non-letter code points for which an upper or lower case mapping is given The problem with this is that earlier, it is stated that all combining mark code points (class code starting with 'M' in the UnicodeData.txt file) ar

Re: [XeTeX] Math class initialization in Unicde-aware engine

2019-11-27 Thread Joseph Wright
On 28/11/2019 00:16, Ross Moore wrote: If by ignoring you mean removing the character entirely, then that is surely not best at all. Most N Class (Normal) characters would be simply of the default \mathord class. That is already the case: it's where IniTeX starts off, chars are mathord.

Re: [XeTeX] Math class initialization in Unicde-aware engine

2019-11-27 Thread Joseph Wright
On 28/11/2019 01:26, Doug McKenna wrote: Ross wrote: | If by ignoring you mean removing the character entirely, then that is surely not best at all. | | Most N Class (Normal) characters would be simply of the default \mathord class. The parsing code in load-unicode-math-classes.tex installs

Re: [XeTeX] Math class initialization in Unicde-aware engine

2019-11-27 Thread Joseph Wright
On 27/11/2019 23:20, Doug McKenna wrote: Another question about Unicode-aware TeX engine (e.g., XeTeX) initialization files. The Unicode Consortium provides a file, MathClass.txt, e.g., ./texmf-dist/tex/generic/unicode-data/MathClass.txt It contains a list of lines (and comments). Field 0 of

Re: [XeTeX] Lowercase Unicode code points in hyphenation patterns

2019-11-24 Thread Joseph Wright
On 24/11/2019 19:42, Joseph Wright wrote: This has of course come up before, and I'd like to add to the expl3 case changers. However, I've not been able to track down any formal statement on the case mappings: are they in the UCD, some official publication, ...? Joseph Found the a

Re: [XeTeX] Lowercase Unicode code points in hyphenation patterns

2019-11-24 Thread Joseph Wright
On 24/11/2019 19:42, Joseph Wright wrote: This has of course come up before, and I'd like to add to the expl3 case changers. However, I've not been able to track down any formal statement on the case mappings: are they in the UCD, some official publication, ...? Joseph Found the a

Re: [XeTeX] Lowercase Unicode code points in hyphenation patterns

2019-11-24 Thread Joseph Wright
On 24/11/2019 18:40, Apostolos Syropoulos via XeTeX wrote: On Sunday, November 24, 2019, 4:21:32 AM GMT+2, David Carlisle wrote: >the lccode tables are set by the macro layer not the engine code, it reads in The Unicode consortium data file tex/generic/unicode-data/UnicodeData.txt and

Re: [XeTeX] [tex-live] Primitive parity, \expanded and \Ucharcat

2018-06-18 Thread Joseph Wright
On 13/05/2018 13:36, Jonathan Kew wrote: On 13/05/2018 13:15, Joseph Wright wrote: On 13/05/2018 12:23, Jonathan Kew wrote: On 13/05/2018 10:57, Joseph Wright wrote: Hello all, Modulo any issues that show up in testing, all of the above is now done and on my GitHub fork (https://github.com

Re: [XeTeX] [tex-live] Primitive parity, \expanded and \Ucharcat

2018-05-13 Thread Joseph Wright
On 13/05/2018 12:23, Jonathan Kew wrote: On 13/05/2018 10:57, Joseph Wright wrote: Hello all, Modulo any issues that show up in testing, all of the above is now done and on my GitHub fork (https://github.com/josephwright/texlive-source/tree/Ucharcat: this branch has 'all the stuff&#

Re: [XeTeX] Primitive parity, \expanded and \Ucharcat

2018-05-13 Thread Joseph Wright
On 03/05/2018 22:38, Joseph Wright wrote: Hello all, In adding features to expl3, the LaTeX team have been making use of a variety of 'new' (post-e-TeX) 'utility' primitives in various engines. Almost always these originate in pdfTeX and have migrated to other engines, bu

Re: [XeTeX] Primitive parity, \expanded and \Ucharcat

2018-05-04 Thread Joseph Wright
On 03/05/2018 22:38, Joseph Wright wrote: - 'pdfutils': (u)pTeX has picked up a number of pdfTeX primitives, and   a subset have made their way into XeTeX too. However, XeTeX is still   missing several, most notably an expandable RNG. We are part-way   though working out patches

Re: [XeTeX] [tex-live] Primitive parity, \expanded and \Ucharcat

2018-05-04 Thread Joseph Wright
Hello Norbert, I'll merge them as required and send diff files to where/whoever is best. For (u)ptex a pull request at https://github.com/texjporg/tex-jp-build might be useful. This is the main development area for all Japanese TeX engine stuff. I see that the \expanded code has already been

[XeTeX] Primitive parity, \expanded and \Ucharcat

2018-05-03 Thread Joseph Wright
Hello all, In adding features to expl3, the LaTeX team have been making use of a variety of 'new' (post-e-TeX) 'utility' primitives in various engines. Almost always these originate in pdfTeX and have migrated to other engines, but are not in any way tied to PDF output, etc. Depending on the

Re: [XeTeX] Allowing Ucharcat to produce active characters

2018-04-18 Thread Joseph Wright
On 18/04/2018 16:08, Bruno Le Floch wrote: Hello, I suggest allowing \Ucharcat to produce active characters. See three-line patch attached. This would allow to produce active characters expandably in all engines (pdfTeX, luaTeX, XeTeX, pTeX, upTeX). My code makes \Ucharcat `~ 13 \e

Re: [XeTeX] Problem involving \includegraphics after texlive update on Debian Tesing

2017-07-07 Thread Joseph Wright
On 07/07/2017 12:54, Johann Spies wrote: > After a recent upgrade of texlive to 2017.20170629-1 on Debian I am > experiencing a problem compiling a longstanding document and I can > replicate the problem with the following code: > > \documentclass[12pt,a4paper]{article} > \usepackage{fontspec} % G

Re: [XeTeX] Using tikz with plain XeTeX

2017-05-13 Thread Joseph Wright
On 13/05/2017 12:49, Philip Taylor wrote: > > > John Was wrote: >> Even if PS-Tricks and Tikz do clash, it doesn't seem to be PS-Tricks >> specifically that's causing this issue (I've tried commenting it out) - >> suspicion currently falls on Edmac, which I use for cropmarks and sometimes >> f

Re: [XeTeX] Using tikz with plain XeTeX

2017-05-13 Thread Joseph Wright
On 13/05/2017 11:53, John Was wrote: > Dear All > > Apologies if this is the wrong list (but I’ve always found participants here > very helpful!). > > I have been sent some tikz code for diagrams to be included in a forthcoming > article. The author uses a version of LaTeX but tikz should work

Re: [XeTeX] [tex-live] xetex.def

2017-05-10 Thread Joseph Wright
On 09/05/2017 23:13, Karl Berry wrote: > what is the reason for having two .def files here. > > I can't imagine an insurmountable technical reason for having two > independent .def files these days. Indeed, it would seem highly > desirable to me to merge them, with conditional parts as needed.

Re: [XeTeX] [tex-live] xetex.def

2017-05-09 Thread Joseph Wright
On 09/05/2017 14:27, Joseph Wright wrote: > So the question is what are the _essentials_ of the difference: really > it's about 'how much difference do we need to look after in the .def files'. I should add that the question arose as dvipdfmx.def and xetex.def currently use

Re: [XeTeX] [tex-live] xetex.def

2017-05-09 Thread Joseph Wright
On 09/05/2017 14:19, Akira Kakuto wrote: > Dear Joseph, > >> Following a bug report for (x)dvipdfmx box scaling, we are talking a >> look at xetex.def and dvidpfmx.def to fix that and related issues. This >> raises a question: what is the reason for having two .def files here. A >> quick test sugg

[XeTeX] xetex.def

2017-05-09 Thread Joseph Wright
Hello all, Following a bug report for (x)dvipdfmx box scaling, we are talking a look at xetex.def and dvidpfmx.def to fix that and related issues. This raises a question: what is the reason for having two .def files here. A quick test suggests that XeTeX (xdvipdfmx) can happily use dvipdfmx.def wi

Re: [XeTeX] TeX--XeT and OpenType fonts

2017-03-01 Thread Joseph Wright
On 01/03/2017 12:14, Jonathan Kew wrote: > On 01/03/2017 11:59, Joseph Wright wrote: >> Hello all, >> >> With example >> >> \font\OTtenrm="[lmroman10-regular.otf]/OT" >> \OTtenrm >> \TeXXeTstate=1 >> \beginR >>

Re: [XeTeX] TeX--XeT and OpenType fonts

2017-03-01 Thread Joseph Wright
On 01/03/2017 12:08, Joseph Wright wrote: > On 01/03/2017 12:06, Philip Taylor wrote: >> What happens if you replace the \endR with a blank line to cause the >> paragraph to end, Joseph [1] ? >> Philip Taylor > > Box ends on starting on the right but text itself is

Re: [XeTeX] TeX--XeT and OpenType fonts

2017-03-01 Thread Joseph Wright
On 01/03/2017 12:06, Philip Taylor wrote: > What happens if you replace the \endR with a blank line to cause the > paragraph to end, Joseph [1] ? > Philip Taylor Box ends on starting on the right but text itself is still LTR. I suspect this is not normally noticed as my guess is HarfBuzz 'does i

[XeTeX] TeX--XeT and OpenType fonts

2017-03-01 Thread Joseph Wright
Hello all, With example \font\OTtenrm="[lmroman10-regular.otf]/OT" \OTtenrm \TeXXeTstate=1 \beginR abc \endR \bye the output is LTR with TL'16. Is this a known issue? Joseph -- Subscriptions, Archive, and List informa

Re: [XeTeX] [tex-live] Random number primitives

2016-11-14 Thread Joseph Wright
On 14/11/2016 07:39, Akira Kakuto wrote: > Dear Joseph, > >> - \(pdf)uniformdeviate >> - \(pdf)normaldeviate >> - \(pdf)randomseed >> - \(pdf)setrandomseed >> (LuaTeX drops the 'pdf' part of the names.) > > H. Kitagawa, the author of eptex, has added > \pdfuniformdeviate > \pdfnormaldeviate > \pd

Re: [XeTeX] Random number primitives

2016-11-13 Thread Joseph Wright
On 13/11/2016 15:49, Karljürgen Feuerherm wrote: > Well… does it have to be either/or, anyhow? Taking Apostolos’ last point, why > not have a switch? > > It makes sense to allow for cross-platform compatibility, but there’s no > reason to think that *nobody* would appreciate an improved algorith

Re: [XeTeX] Random number primitives

2016-11-13 Thread Joseph Wright
On 13/11/2016 13:04, Apostolos Syropoulos wrote: >> to track the seed). The usefulness of pseudo-random numbers has come up >> a few times recently, and so we'd like to address this. (Expandable >> floating point evaluation is pretty handy as an end user!) > > > Can you please elaborate on the u

Re: [XeTeX] [tex-live] Random number primitives

2016-11-13 Thread Joseph Wright
On 12/11/2016 23:50, Nelson H. F. Beebe wrote: > Joseph Wright writes on > Sat, 12 Nov 2016 21:45:37 +: > >>> Both pdfTeX and LuaTeX include a series of primitives that expose a >>> lower-level pseudo-random number generator (I assume from C: there is >>

[XeTeX] Random number primitives

2016-11-12 Thread Joseph Wright
Hello all, As many people will know, the LaTeX team have developed an expandable FPU as part of expl3. That gets quite a bit of use, but one area we can't currently address is random numbers. The pgf bundle has a pseudo-random number generator, but that can't be expandable (you need to track the s

Re: [XeTeX] not enough \XeTeXcharclass registers

2016-02-01 Thread Joseph Wright
On 01/02/2016 09:37, Philip Taylor wrote: > > > Akira Kakuto wrote: > >>> Some interesting (and new, and unexpected) diagnostics, Akira-san; as >>> far as I can tell, no PDF was produced : >> >> You have to replace "all" included binaries, by saving the old ones. >> Note that size of xdvipdfmx.e

Re: [XeTeX] not enough \XeTeXcharclass registers

2016-02-01 Thread Joseph Wright
On 01/02/2016 09:00, Philip Taylor wrote: > > > Akira Kakuto wrote: > >> You can test the new experimental XeTeX on win32 by >> http://members2.jcom.home.ne.jp/wt1357ak/xetex-exp-w32.zip > > /Domo arigato gozaimasu/, Akira-san. Downloaded and installed, just > re-building formats before commen

Re: [XeTeX] not enough \XeTeXcharclass registers

2016-01-31 Thread Joseph Wright
On 31/01/2016 18:31, Philip Taylor wrote: > Just as TeX has \maxdimen, it would be useful if derivatives of TeX such > as XeTeX could add analogous environmental enquiries such as > \maxXeTeXcharclass (or, less uglily but also less meaningfully, > \XeTeXmaxcharclass). \maxdimen isn't a primitive (

Re: [XeTeX] not enough \XeTeXcharclass registers

2016-01-31 Thread Joseph Wright
On 31/01/2016 18:07, Philip Taylor wrote: > > > Jonathan Kew wrote: > >> Before this gets merged to the master source, though, some testing would >> be appreciated -- obviously, this will currently require rebuilding >> xetex from the git source branch. > > I use XeTeX on a daily basis, Jonatha

Re: [XeTeX] not enough \XeTeXcharclass registers

2015-12-13 Thread Joseph Wright
On 13/12/2015 07:04, Werner LEMBERG wrote: > > [XeTeX 3.14159265-2.6-0.2 (TeX Live 2015)] > > > Folks, > > > I'm updating the `ucharclasses.sty' to completely cover Unicode. This > style file maps Unicode character blocks to character classes, and > I've hit the 256 entry limit of \XeTeXc

Re: [XeTeX] \(pdf)mdfivesum

2015-07-10 Thread Joseph Wright
est TeX Live repository has > a new primitive \pdfmdfivesum imported from pdfTeX. > However the name and the implementation itself, are > still volatile. > > Best regards, > Akira Thanks: hope it was not too much effort. I'll have to get on with w

Re: [XeTeX] \(pdf)mdfivesum

2015-07-02 Thread Joseph Wright
the more prosaic issues of people having not-quite matching sources. (We are *not* talking about signing documents.) For the use case I have in mind MD5 will happily do the job. -- Joseph Wright -- Subscriptions, Archive, and List information, etc.: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/xetex

Re: [XeTeX] \(pdf)mdfivesum

2015-07-01 Thread Joseph Wright
able. TeX systems are essentially self-contained: on a Windows system with TeX Live or MiKTeX installed one can nowadays assume Lua as well as TeX but nothing else. Moreover, I'm thinking specifically of a use case linked to the process of document preparation itself. -- Joseph Wright

[XeTeX] \(pdf)mdfivesum

2015-07-01 Thread Joseph Wright
*may* be that the work may be closely related. -- Joseph Wright -- Subscriptions, Archive, and List information, etc.: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/xetex

Re: [XeTeX] Case changing for Greek

2015-05-07 Thread Joseph Wright
On 07/05/2015 15:02, Jonathan Kew wrote: > On 7/5/15 13:22, Joseph Wright wrote: >> Included in that 'standard' set up is the final sigma rule for Greek >> text. For performance reasons that code has been set up to assume that a >> sigma is final if it is followed by

Re: [XeTeX] Case changing for Greek

2015-05-07 Thread Joseph Wright
s a lot to say about uppercasing Greek. The > details of actual code patches will obviously not be relevant, but the > comments describing desired/implemented behavior may be helpful. Thanks for that: looks useful. Will need to read properly and digest. I am left wondering why this is not addr

Re: [XeTeX] Case changing for Greek

2015-05-07 Thread Joseph Wright
On 07/05/2015 14:23, Nikos Platis wrote: > 2015-05-07 15:22 GMT+03:00 Joseph Wright : > >> For performance reasons that code has been set up to assume that a >> sigma is final if it is followed by a space, a control sequence or a >>

Re: [XeTeX] Case changing for Greek

2015-05-07 Thread Joseph Wright
On 07/05/2015 13:40, Philip Taylor wrote: > > > Joseph Wright wrote: > >> For performance reasons that code has been set up to assume that a >> sigma is final if it is followed by a space, a control sequence or a >> character from the list >> >> )

[XeTeX] Case changing for Greek

2015-05-07 Thread Joseph Wright
al text, etc. Again, this can be added if there is a clear set of rules to follow. Detailed information is most welcome. -- Joseph Wright -- Subscriptions, Archive, and List information, etc.: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/xetex

Re: [XeTeX] Σχετ: Re: Assignment of codes (particularly \catcode) based on Unicode data

2015-05-07 Thread Joseph Wright
positional dependence is built it. There's no question that the TeX 1-1 mapping for case changing is not applicable to many situations, not just the case of Greek text. I'll ask a separate question about Greek case mapping for the expl3 context later on as it seems to have people's attention. -- Joseph Wright -- Subscriptions, Archive, and List information, etc.: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/xetex

Re: [XeTeX] Assignment of codes (particularly \catcode) based on Unicode data

2015-05-06 Thread Joseph Wright
> them at this level. > > I think that unicode-letters.def makes most sense as a > fully automated representation of the UCD data files in TeX syntax. > > That way everyone knows what data is in there. > > Individual language packages have far fewer character

Re: [XeTeX] Assignment of codes (particularly \catcode) based on Unicode data

2015-05-06 Thread Joseph Wright
o what 'GREEK CAPITAL LETTER EPSILON WITH PSILI' represents if it's not the upper case of 'GREEK SMALL LETTER EPSILON WITH PSILI': I notice in xgreek you map U+1F18 to U+0395 for upper casing and U+1F10 for lower casing.) -- Joseph Wright -- Subscriptions, Archive, and List information, etc.: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/xetex

Re: [XeTeX] Assignment of codes (particularly \catcode) based on Unicode data

2015-05-06 Thread Joseph Wright
On 06/05/2015 15:09, Jonathan Kew wrote: > On 6/5/15 14:14, Joseph Wright wrote: > >> Based on the current files, we have a block to set \XeTeXcharclass, >> which only applies to XeTeX. The logic followed in that code is that >> characters in the file LineBreak.

[XeTeX] Assignment of codes (particularly \catcode) based on Unicode data

2015-05-06 Thread Joseph Wright
data file. This is a complex area and we have at present done little other than copy the current logic. -- Joseph Wright -- Subscriptions, Archive, and List information, etc.: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/xetex

Re: [XeTeX] XeTeX maintenance

2015-04-27 Thread Joseph Wright
ying that you have to find the correct Unicode code point for everything is not so convenient. (One can arrange different key binds to flip between which could be used to do for example the math-mode bold A business, but that may or may not be

Re: [XeTeX] XeTeX maintenance

2015-04-27 Thread Joseph Wright
On 27/04/2015 08:43, Ross Moore wrote: > Hi Joseph, > > On 27/04/2015, at 4:19 PM, Joseph Wright wrote: > >> On 27/04/2015 00:22, Ross Moore wrote: >>>> But of course that doesn't address the problem for LaTeXt users until >>>> someone writes a

Re: [XeTeX] XeTeX maintenance

2015-04-27 Thread Joseph Wright
(\startsection/\stopsection for example), and of course plain users can define similar structures (indeed without the constraints that LaTeX has of needing not to break things). -- Joseph Wright -- Subscriptions, Archive, and List information, etc.: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/xetex

Re: [XeTeX] XeTeX maintenance

2015-04-26 Thread Joseph Wright
On 27/04/2015 01:05, Douglas McKenna wrote: > Joseph Wright wrote: > >> \def\"{0}\expandafter\def\csname^00022\endcsname{1} >> \ifnum\"=0 \message{tex82}\else\message{newstuff}\fi > > When I implemented a Unicode escape sequence extension using double-

Re: [XeTeX] XeTeX maintenance

2015-04-26 Thread Joseph Wright
ngine level: is that fair? Deciding what elements of a document are 'structure' is hard, and in 'real' documents it's not unusual to see a lot of input that's more about appearance than structure. That of course isn't limited to TeX: I suspect anyone trying to generate

Re: [XeTeX] XeTeX maintenance

2015-04-26 Thread Joseph Wright
On 26/04/2015 12:16, Philip Taylor wrote: > > > Joseph Wright wrote: > >> See for example details in >> http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/86/what-are-the-incompatibilities-of-pdftex-xetex-and-luatex >> for places where there are edge cases. The most

Re: [XeTeX] XeTeX maintenance

2015-04-26 Thread Joseph Wright
On 26/04/2015 12:00, Philip Taylor wrote: > > > Joseph Wright wrote: > >> The problem as always is not so much money as people. > > Yes, I do appreciate that, but sometimes money is also an obstacle ("do > I work on X, which will help keep a roof over my head, o

Re: [XeTeX] XeTeX maintenance

2015-04-26 Thread Joseph Wright
ve not only emerges but > becomes adopted as the /de facto/ replacement for TeX ? > > Philip Taylor The problem as always is not so much money as people. [Also, you do know about LuaTeX, yes? ;-) More seriously, XeTeX isn't a drop-in replacement for TeX90/pdfTeX.] -- Joseph Wright

Re: [XeTeX] XeTeX maintenance

2015-04-25 Thread Joseph Wright
On 25/04/2015 18:31, Khaled Hosny wrote: > Due to lack of time, skills and motivation, I’ll be no longer able to > work on XeTeX, so I’m stepping down as a maintainer. > > Regards, > Khaled Hello Khaled, Thanks for all of your work on XeTeX: it has been very much appreciated. Joseph ---

Re: [XeTeX] printing of characters above "FFFF with \string \meaning (and potentially \Uchar)

2015-04-23 Thread Joseph Wright
be attacked in the source? > > > David Obviously the non-BMP issue needs to be tackled, but I wonder if \Uchar could be added in any case. It would bring functionality in this area closer to LuaTeX and presumably the high chars business can be viewed as a separate issue. -- J

Re: [XeTeX] additional beginL endL nodes in math

2015-04-15 Thread Joseph Wright
icating the test file output for pdfTeX/XeTeX but perhaps normalising (if I can think of a way to do it!). -- Joseph Wright -- Subscriptions, Archive, and List information, etc.: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/xetex

Re: [XeTeX] Bug with color \specials?

2014-06-24 Thread Joseph Wright
: [snip] > But the binary (x)dvipdfmx must be involved somehow too: Even if I > use all the files from texlive2014 with miktex I don't get the error > there. Which files are we talking about here: just pgf-related ones or also xetex.def/dvipdfm

Re: [XeTeX] XeTeX/xdvipdfmx or the driver bug with eps images

2014-05-28 Thread Joseph Wright
ected output, as do latex + dvipdfmx or xelatex with the older driver set up. -- Joseph Wright -- Subscriptions, Archive, and List information, etc.: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/xetex

Re: [XeTeX] XeTeX/xdvipdfmx or the driver bug with eps images

2014-05-28 Thread Joseph Wright
not XeTeX-specific but is linked to a change in (x)divpdfmx and related config files: http://tug.org/svn/texlive?view=revision&revision=30175 (versions of xetex.def before this do not give the issue). As noted by Herbert Voss, w.eps is really a PS file. However, it's treated

Re: [XeTeX] Extended ^^ notation and \scantokens

2014-05-05 Thread Joseph Wright
trying to get a short demo together for that last one! Guess for the moment I'll just have to put up! -- Joseph Wright -- Subscriptions, Archive, and List information, etc.: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/xetex

Re: [XeTeX] ^^J in the plain XeTeX format

2014-05-05 Thread Joseph Wright
On 05/05/2014 08:05, Joseph Wright wrote: > Hello all, > > Doing some experiments on writing to the log, I find that the XeTeX > format shows different behaviour from other formats with respect to ^^J. > Trying > > \immediate\write-1{Hello^^Jworld} > \bye > &g

[XeTeX] Extended ^^ notation and \scantokens

2014-05-05 Thread Joseph Wright
et to five hexadecimal digits: bug in XeTeX? -- Joseph Wright -- Subscriptions, Archive, and List information, etc.: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/xetex

[XeTeX] ^^J in the plain XeTeX format

2014-05-05 Thread Joseph Wright
gives Hello^^Jworld LaTeX and ConTeXt (MkII) show identical behaviour for XeTeX and pdfTeX (and LuaTeX in the LaTeX case). Anyone know why this is, and if it's deliberate? -- Joseph Wright -- Subscriptions, Archive, and List information

Re: [XeTeX] The arcs package

2013-08-25 Thread Joseph Wright
On 25/08/2013 16:00, Joseph Wright wrote: > Nothing to do with XeTeX: it's due to relsize and shows up with a demo > for pdfTeX. Inside arcs.sty you find > > \let \rs@size@warning = \@gobbletwo > \relsize{-10}% > > but in the latest relsize (dated 2013-03-

Re: [XeTeX] The arcs package

2013-08-25 Thread Joseph Wright
\let \rs@size@warning = \@gobbletwo \relsize{-10}% but in the latest relsize (dated 2013-03-29) \rs@size@warning takes three arguments. Thus arcs needs adjusting (probaly should just leave the relsize code alone): I've CC'd the arcs author. -- Joseph Wright

Re: [XeTeX] Error of xeCJK and fonspec (Bokov Gleb - First Message)

2013-05-31 Thread Joseph Wright
hile ago and provided you have up-to-date fontspec and expl3 packages everything should work. -- Joseph Wright -- Subscriptions, Archive, and List information, etc.: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/xetex

Re: [XeTeX] First message: Xelatex, pstricks and Mountain Lion

2013-01-14 Thread Joseph Wright
on PC, so it is difficult to find the problem on Mac. > I someone can help me... > > Thank-you > François Have you tried installing XQuartz? (Apple no longer include X11 with ML, so you have to get your own from the community spin-out.) -- Joseph Wright -- Subscriptions, Archive, and List information, etc.: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/xetex

Re: [XeTeX] bidi.sty for plain XeTeX

2012-12-22 Thread Joseph Wright
nd so I stuck with it! > > > John For an entire document, you need to worry about \everypar and \parindent, for example \TeXXeTstate = 1 % \newbox\indentbox \everypar{% \setbox\indentbox=\lastbox \beginR \box\indentbox } as \beginR is an hmode command. -- Joseph

Re: [XeTeX] bidi.sty for plain XeTeX

2012-12-22 Thread Joseph Wright
ring whether there wasn't >> another bidi.sty file available for plain xetex. >> Perhaps there are other bidi packages available that I do not know of. > > Probably this one, Nicholas : > > d:/TeX/Live/2011/texmf-dist/tex/latex/bidi/bidi.tex >

Re: [XeTeX] bidi.sty for plain XeTeX

2012-12-21 Thread Joseph Wright
users would tend to 'roll their own'). -- Joseph Wright -- Subscriptions, Archive, and List information, etc.: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/xetex

Re: [XeTeX] [luatex] Info on direction primitives/implementation

2012-12-05 Thread Joseph Wright
blah or similar? > Since the book contains more than 300 pictures, almost all > paragraphs require \parshape. Paragraph shape is a someone separate issue :-) (In the sense that I have other worries that come up there without bringing in RTL!) --

Re: [XeTeX] [luatex] Info on direction primitives/implementation

2012-12-05 Thread Joseph Wright
On 05/12/2012 12:14, Jonathan Kew wrote: > On 5/12/12 11:56, Joseph Wright wrote: > >> Right, so some more thinking required here. The question is what is >> sensible for new content: from what you say about TeX--XeT and bidi, >> using pdfTeX/XeTeX is not currently to be

Re: [XeTeX] [luatex] Info on direction primitives/implementation

2012-12-05 Thread Joseph Wright
for 'real life' RTL work, despite >> limitations. > > Considering bidi has improved the situations and made things cleaner and > simpler, yes. Right, so some more thinking required here. The question is what is sensible for new content: from what you say about TeX--

Re: [XeTeX] [luatex] Info on direction primitives/implementation

2012-12-04 Thread Joseph Wright
TeX is a bit more 'interesting': I guess the existence of bidi means that people are using XeTeX for 'real life' RTL work, despite limitations. -- Joseph Wright -- Subscriptions, Archive, and List information, etc.: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/xetex

Re: [XeTeX] [luatex] Info on direction primitives/implementation

2012-12-04 Thread Joseph Wright
rsed in RTL mode so you have to do some macro > programming and this is not always the case, e.g, \vbox inside \hbox > * No tool for controlling equation number; it only provides > \predisplaydirection which is buggy in RTL. > * Very useful list :-) (I knew some of these, bu

Re: [XeTeX] [luatex] Info on direction primitives/implementation

2012-12-04 Thread Joseph Wright
ing ATS/ATSU with Core Text, and old > SilGraphite with Graphite2 engine) and further polishing of OpenType > math. Jonathan K. will tell you that my ability to write XeTeX patches is very limited :-) I was thinking much less complicated than layout engines (w

Re: [XeTeX] [luatex] Info on direction primitives/implementation

2012-12-04 Thread Joseph Wright
[Moved from the LuaTeX list as this moves me to XeTeX!] On 04/12/2012 14:33, Khaled Hosny wrote: > On Tue, Dec 04, 2012 at 01:52:19PM +0000, Joseph Wright wrote: >> Very useful, thanks. Point about detail understood: at the moment I'm >> trying to get my head around the ent

Re: [XeTeX] troubles with \setcounter in Tex 2012

2012-12-03 Thread Joseph Wright
counters like \setcounter{b}{\thea-2} etc.) > I would be extremely thankful for any support, since this issue completely > destroys my workflow. > > thanks in advance > Andrey You need to load the calc package: perhaps memoir was in earlier versions? -- Joseph Wright --

Re: [XeTeX] xelatex,polyglossia,biblatex conflict

2012-08-24 Thread Joseph Wright
uence error. > > Haines Brown Without a bit more detail it's hard to say, but I would strongly suggest using TL2012. Development of both biblatex and polyglossia is active, and so issues can and do get fixed over time. -- Joseph Wright

Re: [XeTeX] Announcing: LuaTeX support in Polyglossia

2012-08-22 Thread Joseph Wright
ithub.com/reutenauer/polyglossia -- Joseph Wright -- Subscriptions, Archive, and List information, etc.: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/xetex

Re: [XeTeX] XeLaTeX and SIunitx

2012-06-12 Thread Joseph Wright
able to search using the UTF-8 characters correctly. -- Joseph Wright -- Subscriptions, Archive, and List information, etc.: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/xetex

Re: [XeTeX] XeLaTeX and SIunitx

2012-06-11 Thread Joseph Wright
On 11/06/2012 21:57, Joseph Wright wrote: > Hello all, > > Taking a look back over the code, I already have some auto-detection in > for picking up UTF-8 symbols when the correct engine is in use. > > I've revised this a bit for the next release (v2.5d, on CTAN tomorrow

Re: [XeTeX] XeLaTeX and SIunitx

2012-06-11 Thread Joseph Wright
u+00b5 (u+03bc is wrong) - Ohmu+03a9 (u+2126 normalises here) - Degree u+00b0 - Arc minute u+2032 (requires unicode-math) - Arc second u+2033 (requires unicode-math) -- Joseph Wright -- Subscriptions, Archive, and List

Re: [XeTeX] "Minimalist" TeX?

2012-05-16 Thread Joseph Wright
kertex.html > > Which does not include XeTeX :) Oh yes, license and library issues: I forgot :-) -- Joseph Wright -- Subscriptions, Archive, and List information, etc.: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/xetex

Re: [XeTeX] "Minimalist" TeX?

2012-05-16 Thread Joseph Wright
a subset? > > Thanks, > CY TeX is more than one program, so it's not as simple as grabbing 'source for the binary TeX' and compiling it. For a minimal compilable set up, maybe take a look at KerTeX: http://www.kergis.com/en/kertex.html -- Joseph Wright ---

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