Re: [XeTeX] word breaking in languages like telugu, sanskrit

On Oct 3, 2010, at 11:09 PM, Kattamuri Ekanadham wrote: Long time ago Yves Codet wrote ... With XeLaTeX, if you use the package "polyglossia", hyphenation patterns (included in the package "hyph-utf8") corresponding to the language you select will be applied. For instance: \usepackage{fontspe

Re: [XeTeX] word breaking in languages like telugu, sanskrit

Long time ago Yves Codet wrote ... With XeLaTeX, if you use the package "polyglossia", hyphenation patterns (included in the package "hyph-utf8") corresponding to the language you select will be applied. For instance: \usepackage{fontspec} \usepackage{polyglossia} \setdefaultlanguage{sanskrit} \

Re: [XeTeX] hyperref broken??

On 2010-10-04 11:57:27 +1030, "David J. Perry" said: Ross and Will, So the first question should be what is the version of XeTeX that MikTeX is providing. And is David actually using that, or still an earlier version, as I was on a Mac. If the primitive is not there, then the latest versions

Re: [XeTeX] hyperref broken??

Ross and Will, So the first question should be what is the version of XeTeX that MikTeX is providing. And is David actually using that, or still an earlier version, as I was on a Mac. If the primitive is not there, then the latest versions of expl3 and fontspec just will not work, and may not

Re: [XeTeX] hyperref broken??

Hi Will, and others, On 04/10/2010, at 9:56 AM, Will Robertson wrote: > Am 03.10.2010 um 15:52 schrieb Will Robertson: > >> On 03/10/2010, at 11:41 PM, Philipp Stephani wrote: >> >>> Am 03.10.2010 um 14:02 schrieb David Perry: >>> If I omit the option, or use 'xetex' in place of 'hyper

Re: [XeTeX] Prime + Unicode-math

On 03-10-2010 22:53, Herbert Schulz wrote: The error goes away if you set a math font using the \setmathfont command as in \setmathfont{Asana Math} Many thanks to you and to Khaled. But this creates another problem. If I compile the file: \documentclass{article} \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} \us

Re: [XeTeX] Prime + Unicode-math

On 03-10-2010 22:50, Ulrik Vieth wrote: If you get Q″ instead of P′ with XeTeX, you likely have multiple different versions of the Asana-Math font on your disk somewhere (possibly TTF and OTF at the same time). I checked and that was indeed the case. This is known bug with XeTeX, and the be

Re: [XeTeX] hyperref broken??

Am 03.10.2010 um 15:52 schrieb Will Robertson: > On 03/10/2010, at 11:41 PM, Philipp Stephani wrote: > >> Am 03.10.2010 um 14:02 schrieb David Perry: >> >>> If I omit the option, or use 'xetex' in place of 'hypertex' or use the >>> driverfallback option, I get: >>> >>> ! Undefined control seq

Re: [XeTeX] Prime + Unicode-math

Dear José Carlos, No problem here too. If Ulrik' suggestion does not apply in your case I suggest you check if you're using the most recent version of unicode-math. (The last version is dated 2010/09/27). Best, António Fernandes On Oct 3, 2010, at 10:40 PM, José Carlos Santos wrote: > On 03-

Re: [XeTeX] Prime + Unicode-math

On Oct 3, 2010, at 4:40 PM, José Carlos Santos wrote: > On 03-10-2010 18:44, António Fernandes wrote: > >> The error goes away if you set a math font using the \setmathfont command >> as in >> >> \setmathfont{Asana Math} > > Many thanks to you and to Khaled. But this creates another problem. I

Re: [XeTeX] Prime + Unicode-math

If you get Q″ instead of P′ with XeTeX, you likely have multiple different versions of the Asana-Math font on your disk somewhere (possibly TTF and OTF at the same time). This is known bug with XeTeX, and the best solution is to make sure you have only one version of a font. Regards, Ulrik On

Re: [XeTeX] Prime + Unicode-math

On 03-10-2010 18:44, António Fernandes wrote: The error goes away if you set a math font using the \setmathfont command as in \setmathfont{Asana Math} Many thanks to you and to Khaled. But this creates another problem. If I compile the file: \documentclass{article} \usepackage[T1]{fontenc}

Re: [XeTeX] arabxetex vs. xepersian

Axel Kielhorn wrote: > Reading the documentation of the XeTeX packages I want to mention in lshort, > I came across two packages for Farsi: > > arabxtex supports: > arab (Arabic) > farsi (persian) > urdu > sindhi > pashto > ottoman (turk) > kurdish > kashmiri > malay (jawi) > uighur > > xepersia

Re: [XeTeX] XeTeX in lshort

On 2 Oct 2010, at 19:12, Philipp Stephani wrote: > Am 30.09.2010 um 20:12 schrieb Elliott Roper: > >> What I'm lacking is a set of beginner documents that ties all the TeX zoo >> together. Do I have to read source to find the definitive answer to which >> package has what package as a pre-requ

Re: [XeTeX] XeTeX in lshort

On 2 Oct 2010, at 18:56, Philipp Stephani wrote: > Am 01.10.2010 um 00:49 schrieb Elliott Roper: > >>> As far a documentation is concerned look at the LaTeX Companion for >>> packages. >> ..and that's where I get a bit taken aback. The book arrives last Saturday. >> I head for the Index for th

Re: [XeTeX] Prime + Unicode-math

On Sun, Oct 03, 2010 at 06:26:51PM +0100, José Carlos Santos wrote: > Hi all, > > If I compile this file: > > \documentclass{article} > \usepackage{fontspec} > \usepackage{xltxtra} > \usepackage{unicode-math} > \begin{document} > $P'$ > \end{document} > > I get this error message: > > ! Undefin

Re: [XeTeX] Problem changing default fonts

On Sun, Oct 03, 2010 at 05:28:43PM +0200, Drébon wrote: > On 03/10/2010 16:57, Herbert Schulz wrote: > >Howdy, > >No problem here. Put \listfiles at the top of your file and re-compile. > >Compare it to this > Ok, my fontspec is only 2.1.a and my realscripts.sty v0.2... I'm > upgrading and test ag

Re: [XeTeX] Prime + Unicode-math

Dear José Carlos, The error goes away if you set a math font using the \setmathfont command as in \setmathfont{Asana Math} António Fernandes On Oct 3, 2010, at 6:26 PM, José Carlos Santos wrote: > Hi all, > > If I compile this file: > > \documentclass{article} > \usepackage{fontspec} > \us

[XeTeX] Prime + Unicode-math

Hi all, If I compile this file: \documentclass{article} \usepackage{fontspec} \usepackage{xltxtra} \usepackage{unicode-math} \begin{document} $P'$ \end{document} I get this error message: ! Undefined control sequence. \um_prime_single_mchar l.6 $P'$ Why is that? The unicode-math documentati

Re: [XeTeX] XeTeX in lshort

> A very good source is Murray Sargent's blog: > http://blogs.msdn.com/b/murrays/ > e.g. this (quite technical) post: > http://blogs.msdn.com/b/murrays/archive/2006/09/13/752206.aspx > "The new font tables enable one to automatically position subscripts and > superscripts horizontally better

Re: [XeTeX] fontspec smcp bug

\font\1="Kepler Std" at 8pt\1 %9pt uses Regular for me Hallo Welt! \font\2="Kepler Std" at 12pt\2 Hallo Welt! \font\3="Kepler Std" at 14pt\3 Hallo Welt! \font\4="Kepler Std" at 24pt\4 Hallo Welt! \end This is XeTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.2-0.9995.1 (MiKTeX 2.8) (preloaded format=xetex 2010.10.3) 3

Re: [XeTeX] hyperref broken??

Am 03.10.2010 um 15:52 schrieb Will Robertson: > (Sent quickly. Please excuse brevity.) > > On 03/10/2010, at 11:41 PM, Philipp Stephani wrote: > >> Am 03.10.2010 um 14:02 schrieb David Perry: >> >>> If I omit the option, or use 'xetex' in place of 'hypertex' or use the >>> driverfallback op

Re: [XeTeX] hyperref broken??

On 10/3/2010 9:11 AM, Philipp Stephani wrote: ! Undefined control sequence. \str_if_eq_p:nn #1#2->\tex_ifnum:D \pdf_strcmp:D {\etex_unexpanded:D {#1}}{\... l.479 ...p:w \cs_set_nopar:cpn \cs_set_nopar:Npn I fixed the missing commas but tha

Re: [XeTeX] Problem changing default fonts

On 03/10/2010 16:57, Herbert Schulz wrote: Howdy, No problem here. Put \listfiles at the top of your file and re-compile. Compare it to this Ok, my fontspec is only 2.1.a and my realscripts.sty v0.2... I'm upgrading and test again -- D. --

Re: [XeTeX] Undefined control sequence

On 02/10/2010 10:55 p.m., Ross Moore wrote: > Hello Cesar, > > On 03/10/2010, at 12:38 AM, Cesar Romani wrote: > >> I'm using xelatex from TexLive 2008 on Win XP. >> I wanted to run the following text under xelatex: >> >> >> \documentclass{article} >> >> \usepackage{fontspec}

Re: [XeTeX] Problem changing default fonts

On Oct 3, 2010, at 9:50 AM, Drébon wrote: > \documentclass{article} > \usepackage{xltxtra} > \usepackage{fontspec} > \setmainfont[Numbers=OldStyle]{TeX Gyre Heros} > > \begin{document} > Text \textsc{Small Caps seem not to work with old style numbers}. > \end{document} Howdy, No problem here.

Re: [XeTeX] Problem changing default fonts

On 03/10/2010 16:26, Khaled Hosny wrote: They have, all Tex Gyre fonts (AFAIK) have small caps: How ! It seems that it is "just" the [Numbers=OldStyle] options that messes with small-caps... Is it a bug or a feature ? \documentclass{article} \usepackage{xltxtra} \usepackage{fontspec} \setmain

Re: [XeTeX] fontspec smcp bug

[seems that my first attempt didn't make it to the list as I wasn't subscribed] On Oct 3, 2010, at 10:14 , Will Robertson wrote: > On 03/10/2010, at 6:14 PM, Roland Kuhn wrote: > >> While we're at it: the documentation is not completely precise wrt. optical >> font sizes. I have installed Keple

Re: [XeTeX] fontspec smcp bug

On Oct 3, 2010, at 10:14 , Will Robertson wrote: > On 03/10/2010, at 6:14 PM, Roland Kuhn wrote: > >> While we're at it: the documentation is not completely precise wrt. optical >> font sizes. I have installed Kepler Std Opticals from Adobe (I'm on Snow >> Leopard) and fontspec.pdf mentions tha

Re: [XeTeX] Problem changing default fonts

On Sun, Oct 03, 2010 at 11:23:05AM +0200, Drébon wrote: > On 03/10/2010 10:07, Peter Dyballa wrote: > >This should not be too complicated... > > > >\ifxetex > > > >\fi > >\ifpdf > > > >\fi > >\textsc{Small or Big Caps?} > > > > Well as far as I understand this, this is a simple

Re: [XeTeX] hyperref broken??

Am 03.10.2010 um 14:02 schrieb David Perry: > Heiko, > > Thank you for the reply. > > On 10/3/2010 4:41 AM, Heiko Oberdiek wrote: > >> This is correct. XeTeX is used to generate PDF, `hypertex' is >> a driver for DVI mode. You can easily omit the option, because >> XeTeX is automatically detec

Re: [XeTeX] arabxetex vs. xepersian

Le 03/10/2010 14:52, Tobias Schoel a écrit : I'm no linguist. Sorry if I have uttered old and overcome thoughts. Let's say they're controversial at best. But not false, mind you: just very hard to assess. As far as I know, languages do lack things indeed: some phonems, interpunctuation, gr

Re: [XeTeX] arabxetex vs. xepersian

I'm no linguist. Sorry if I have uttered old and overcome thoughts. As far as I know, languages do lack things indeed: some phonems, interpunctuation, grammar, ... Political use of phonetics: the German language is lacking the difference between the chinese phonems q,zh,ch,x,sh, ... The conse

Re: [XeTeX] arabxetex vs. xepersian

Le 03/10/2010 14:16, Tobias Schoel a écrit : That's not phonetics, that's politics. Nothing to do with Persian/Farsi. Language has always been an important weapon in politics. People think in the languages they speak. If a language lacks something, then the thinking of the speakers of this

Re: [XeTeX] hyperref broken??

On 10/3/2010 5:51 AM, Philipp Stephani wrote: Removing "hypertex," should do it because hyperref knows when the document is compiled with XeLaTeX. > What errors do you get after removing the driver option? See my reply to Heiko. Note that you should remove the driver option everywhere, i.e.

Re: [XeTeX] arabxetex vs. xepersian

Le 03/10/2010 14:12, Vafa Khalighi a écrit : We say Parsi and that is it. Sorry but your arguments are nonsense. As you wish. Except you said "Persian" :) Paul -- Subscriptions, Archive, and List information, etc.: http://tug.org/mailman/listi

Re: [XeTeX] arabxetex vs. xepersian

That's not phonetics, that's politics. Nothing to do with Persian/Farsi. Language has always been an important weapon in politics. People think in the languages they speak. If a language lacks something, then the thinking of the speakers of this language will probably lack it as well. And p

Re: [XeTeX] arabxetex vs. xepersian

We say Parsi and that is it. Sorry but your arguments are nonsense. -- به نام خداوند جان و خرد کزین برتر اندیشه برنگذرد -- Subscriptions, Archive, and List information, etc.: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/xetex

Re: [XeTeX] arabxetex vs. xepersian

Le 03/10/2010 13:51, Vafa Khalighi a écrit : We say Parsi, the international community says Persian. History says Persian, where does Farsi come from? As I said before, you should read some history before commenting unwisely? It's not a matter of history, it's a matter of phonetics. "Farsi" c

Re: [XeTeX] hyperref broken??

Heiko, Thank you for the reply. On 10/3/2010 4:41 AM, Heiko Oberdiek wrote: This is correct. XeTeX is used to generate PDF, `hypertex' is a driver for DVI mode. You can easily omit the option, because XeTeX is automatically detected. If I omit the option, or use 'xetex' in place of 'hypertex'

Re: [XeTeX] arabxetex vs. xepersian

2010/10/3 Paul Isambert : > "Persian" is an English pronunciation, "Farsi" an Arabic one. Both derive > from the same word. I can't see why one is fake and not the other. Like > saying the real name of French is Französich, for some reason having to do > with German phonetics... I trust Wikipedia:

Re: [XeTeX] arabxetex vs. xepersian

"Persian" is an English pronunciation, "Farsi" an Arabic one. Both derive from the same word. I can't see why one is fake and not the other. Like saying the real name of French is Französich, for some reason having to do with German phonetics... We say Parsi, the international community says Persi

Re: [XeTeX] arabxetex vs. xepersian

Le 03/10/2010 13:34, Vafa Khalighi a écrit : On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 10:28 PM, Arthur Reutenauer > wrote: On Sun, Oct 03, 2010 at 10:15:34PM +1100, Vafa Khalighi wrote: > Its Persian not Farsi. Farsi is the fake name that arabs give to our

Re: [XeTeX] arabxetex vs. xepersian

> Is this true for IranNastaliq as well? > > > No -- به نام خداوند جان و خرد کزین برتر اندیشه برنگذرد -- Subscriptions, Archive, and List information, etc.: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/xetex

Re: [XeTeX] arabxetex vs. xepersian

Am 03.10.2010 um 13:15 schrieb Vafa Khalighi: > I do not comment about "xepersian versus arabxetex". since it would not be > fair. I understand:-) > Well, there are heaps of good Persian fonts: > > XB series from IRMUG, IranNastaliq, The IRMUG fonts support: Persian, Arabic, Urdu, Pash

Re: [XeTeX] XeTeX in lshort

Am 03.10.2010 12:43, schrieb Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd): Philipp Stephani wrote: Yes, but is that really "structure"? Of course it's basically a question of definition, but if you look at other technologies that are supposed to be able to express structure (e.g. XML), then you'll find

Re: [XeTeX] arabxetex vs. xepersian

On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 10:28 PM, Arthur Reutenauer < arthur.reutena...@normalesup.org> wrote: > On Sun, Oct 03, 2010 at 10:15:34PM +1100, Vafa Khalighi wrote: > > Its Persian not Farsi. Farsi is the fake name that arabs give to our > > language as they have no "p". > > Vafa, what did we say abou

Re: [XeTeX] arabxetex vs. xepersian

On Sun, Oct 03, 2010 at 10:15:34PM +1100, Vafa Khalighi wrote: > Its Persian not Farsi. Farsi is the fake name that arabs give to our > language as they have no "p". Vafa, what did we say about making such statements on a public mailing-list? Arthur ---

Re: [XeTeX] XeTeX in lshort

Am 03.10.2010 um 10:14 schrieb Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd): > > > Philipp Stephani wrote: > >> In TeX you cannot state the structure because TeX is a low-level > > typesetting system that offers only a few low-level primitives > > and a macro language. > > If "TeX offered only a few low-

Re: [XeTeX] arabxetex vs. xepersian

Its Persian not Farsi. Farsi is the fake name that arabs give to our language as they have no "p". I do not comment about "xepersian versus arabxetex". since it would not be fair. bidi supports hebrew as it is a RTL written language but minor adjustments needed for typographical details like what

Re: [XeTeX] arabxetex vs. xepersian

On Sunday 03 October 2010 12:56:19 Axel Kielhorn wrote: > At the same time I noticed that there is no package for Hebrew. > Is bidi (and a correct font) sufficient to write Hebrew? I am happy using raw xetex (with eplain loaded). The "SBL Hebrew" font is really excellent; there are other fonts

[XeTeX] arabxetex vs. xepersian

Reading the documentation of the XeTeX packages I want to mention in lshort, I came across two packages for Farsi: arabxtex supports: arab (Arabic) farsi (persian) urdu sindhi pashto ottoman (turk) kurdish kashmiri malay (jawi) uighur xepersian supports only Farsi, but adds command names in Fars

Re: [XeTeX] XeTeX in lshort

Philipp Stephani wrote: Yes, but is that really "structure"? Of course it's basically a question of definition, but if you look at other technologies that are supposed to be able to express structure (e.g. XML), then you'll find data modeling, schema, transformation and querying languages,

Re: [XeTeX] Problem changing default fonts

> > Note that \ifpdf checks for PDF output, and doesn't have to be true > whenever pdfTeX is used. Better > iftex provides \ifPDFTeX > > \ifxetex > > \else > \ifluatex > > \else > > \fi > \fi > > > No, what happens if you use some other engines? ptex or vtex? -- به نام خداوند جا

Re: [XeTeX] Problem changing default fonts

Am 03.10.2010 um 10:07 schrieb Peter Dyballa: > > Am 02.10.2010 um 17:02 schrieb Drébon: > >> Now, I am just searching for a replacement police for helvet that support >> smallcaps (and to understand what was I intending to do with the problematic >> \renewcommand*\sfdefault{ugq}) > > > Thi

Re: [XeTeX] XeTeX in lshort

Am 03.10.2010 um 10:00 schrieb Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd): > > > Philipp Stephani wrote: > >> Here (in German): >> http://www.golatex.de/latex-mathe-font-fuer-bildschirm-t3664.html >> >> Although I have to admit that in that case the quality is more related to >> the font and not so mu

Re: [XeTeX] Problem changing default fonts

On 03/10/2010 11:47, Michiel Kamermans wrote: Drébon, in the world of typography it is a well known fact that Helvetica and clones lack small-caps How, ok, but I was mislead because with pdftex, helvetica clone provided by helvet package has small-caps However, that means the trick is actu

Re: [XeTeX] Problem changing default fonts

Am 03.10.2010 um 11:23 schrieb Drébon: My current problem is that the Tex Gyre *** fonts have no small caps. I think the PUA (Private Use Area) has some small glyphs (for whatever use), even a lot accented ones. (Helvetica is a font without Small Caps. By definition/character/look/visual

Re: [XeTeX] hyperref broken??

Am 03.10.2010 um 06:12 schrieb David Perry: > I just updated MiKTeX; I noticed that both hyperref and memoir were included > in the update. Now my book (which uses memoir) won't compile. > > The following lines have been in my preamble for months without change: > > \usepackage[hypertex, >

Re: [XeTeX] Problem changing default fonts

Drébon, in the world of typography it is a well known fact that Helvetica and clones lack small-caps, and many vehemently argue that this is right and proper, because "it is in a typeface family that shouldn't have small-caps". However, that means the trick is actually really simple: don't tr

Re: [XeTeX] Tables

Le 03/10/2010 00:29, Mike Maxwell a écrit : On 10/2/2010 3:52 PM, Paul Isambert wrote: And I'll add: printing a corpus with annotations that don't show up but are fed to LuaTeX for statistics, and returned as tables. What I'm doing right now. Interesting. We're producing grammars. They're X

Re: [XeTeX] Tables

On 10/2/2010 3:29 PM, Mike Maxwell wrote: Interesting. We're producing grammars. They're XML (if you want to mark structure, use XML!), and they get converted to XeLaTeX for typesetting (if you want to typeset, use LaTeX!). One of the problems we've had is that of deciding whether tables are

Re: [XeTeX] Problem changing default fonts

On 03/10/2010 10:07, Peter Dyballa wrote: This should not be too complicated... \ifxetex \fi \ifpdf \fi \textsc{Small or Big Caps?} Well as far as I understand this, this is a simple way for secifying font configuration with for xetex or pdftex automatically. My curre

Re: [XeTeX] hyperref broken??

On Sun, Oct 03, 2010 at 12:12:40AM -0400, David Perry wrote: > I just updated MiKTeX; I noticed that both hyperref and memoir were > included in the update. Now my book (which uses memoir) won't > compile. > > The following lines have been in my preamble for months without change: > > \usepacka

Re: [XeTeX] XeTeX in lshort

Philipp Stephani wrote: In TeX you cannot state the structure because TeX is a low-level > typesetting system that offers only a few low-level primitives > and a macro language. If "TeX offered only a few low-level primitives", I would have been willing to accept that your argument might hav

Re: [XeTeX] Problem changing default fonts

> > This should not be too complicated... > >\ifxetex > >\fi >\ifpdf > >\fi >\textsc{Small or Big Caps?} > > Use iftex package, in which I am going to add \ifdvi, \ifps, \ifpdf and support for vtex in the next version. (one single package

Re: [XeTeX] Problem changing default fonts

Am 02.10.2010 um 17:02 schrieb Drébon: Now, I am just searching for a replacement police for helvet that support smallcaps (and to understand what was I intending to do with the problematic \renewcommand*\sfdefault{ugq}) This should not be too complicated... \ifxetex

Re: [XeTeX] XeTeX in lshort

Philipp Stephani wrote: Here (in German): http://www.golatex.de/latex-mathe-font-fuer-bildschirm-t3664.html Although I have to admit that in that case the quality is more related to the font and not so much to the typesetting. But see Ulrik's article for an overview of the improvements made

[XeTeX] Fwd: commit/bidi: vafa: an attempt to fix issue #6 (it requires users feedback) [Was: Two footnote bugs in Memoir with Bidi]

-- Forwarded message -- From: Date: Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 6:00 PM Subject: commit/bidi: vafa: an attempt to fix issue #6 (it requires users feedback) To: vafakh...@gmail.com 1 new changeset in bidi: http://www.bitbucket.org/vafa/bidi/changeset/ed9b91833eb4/ changeset: r99:ed9b91

Re: [XeTeX] Two footnote bugs in Memoir with Bidi

I attempted to fix this in commit 99. See http://bitbucket.org/vafa/bidi I have not tested it and so fixed it just from what Lars told me about the reason of the problem. It needs some testing. -- به نام خداوند جان و خرد کزین برتر اندیشه برنگذرد ---