Re: [Xen-devel] Possible improvement to Xen Security Response Process

2017-02-17 Thread Lars Kurth
> On 23 Jan 2017, at 11:30, Jan Beulich wrote: > >>>> On 20.01.17 at 20:21, wrote: >> James Bulpin writes ("Re: [Xen-devel] Possible improvement to Xen Security >> Response Process"): >>> , and the issue is considered to be of significant

Re: [Xen-devel] Possible improvement to Xen Security Response Process

2017-01-23 Thread Jan Beulich
>>> On 20.01.17 at 20:21, wrote: > James Bulpin writes ("Re: [Xen-devel] Possible improvement to Xen Security > Response Process"): >> , and the issue is considered to be of significant urgency due >> to its severity, then the fourth Tuesday in the month sh

Re: [Xen-devel] Possible improvement to Xen Security Response Process

2017-01-20 Thread Ian Jackson
James Bulpin writes ("Re: [Xen-devel] Possible improvement to Xen Security Response Process"): > On Tue, 2016-12-13 at 08:42, Jan Beulich wrote: >> On 12.12.16 at 18:11, wrote: > > > > Hmm - this means 6 weeks of latency in the worst case. I don't >

Re: [Xen-devel] Possible improvement to Xen Security Response Process

2017-01-04 Thread James Bulpin
On Wed, 2017-01-04 at 13:02, Jan Beulich wrote: On 04.01.17 at 12:58, wrote: >> On Tue, 2016-12-13 at 08:42, Jan Beulich wrote: >> On 12.12.16 at 18:11, wrote: I'll join in the bunfight with a stronger proposal (noting in passing that according to https://xenbits.xen.org/xsa/

Re: [Xen-devel] Possible improvement to Xen Security Response Process

2017-01-04 Thread Jan Beulich
>>> On 04.01.17 at 12:58, wrote: > On Tue, 2016-12-13 at 08:42, Jan Beulich wrote: > On 12.12.16 at 18:11, wrote: >>> I'll join in the bunfight with a stronger proposal (noting in passing >>> that according to https://xenbits.xen.org/xsa/ we are now expecting 5 >>> consecutive weeks of XSA

Re: [Xen-devel] Possible improvement to Xen Security Response Process

2017-01-04 Thread James Bulpin
On Tue, 2016-12-13 at 08:42, Jan Beulich wrote: On 12.12.16 at 18:11, wrote: >> I'll join in the bunfight with a stronger proposal (noting in passing >> that according to https://xenbits.xen.org/xsa/ we are now expecting 5 >> consecutive weeks of XSA announcements): >> 1) Where practical, X

Re: [Xen-devel] Possible improvement to Xen Security Response Process

2016-12-13 Thread Jan Beulich
>>> On 12.12.16 at 18:11, wrote: > I'll join in the bunfight with a stronger proposal (noting in passing > that according to https://xenbits.xen.org/xsa/ we are now expecting 5 > consecutive weeks of XSA announcements): > 1) Where practical, XSA public disclosures will be batched and announced > o

Re: [Xen-devel] Possible improvement to Xen Security Response Process

2016-12-12 Thread Anthony Liguori
On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 9:11 AM, Matthew Allen wrote: > On Wed, 2016-12-07 at 16:23 +, Ian Jackson wrote: >> ... >> I have an alternative concrete suggestion: >> >> Unless there are good reasons to diverge, our suggestions to >> discoverer(s) will be based on the following criteria, in order

Re: [Xen-devel] Possible improvement to Xen Security Response Process

2016-12-12 Thread Matthew Allen
On Wed, 2016-12-07 at 16:23 +, Ian Jackson wrote: > ... > I have an alternative concrete suggestion: > > Unless there are good reasons to diverge, our suggestions to > discoverer(s) will be based on the following criteria, in order of > precedence: > 1. Avoiding disclosure on Fridays, week

Re: [Xen-devel] Possible improvement to Xen Security Response Process

2016-12-07 Thread Ian Jackson
Matthew Allen writes ("Re: [Xen-devel] Possible improvement to Xen Security Response Process"): > I agree; I'm suggesting changes to the dates that the security team > would propose to a discoverer. Right. Personally I think that batching would be valuable, if it do

Re: [Xen-devel] Possible improvement to Xen Security Response Process

2016-12-06 Thread Matthew Allen
On Mon, 2016-12-05 at 11:24 -0800, Stefano Stabellini wrote: > On Mon, 5 Dec 2016, Jan Beulich wrote: > > >>> On 05.12.16 at 15:17, wrote: ... > > > Obviously, some issues are discussed in public before the security > > > impact is realised (such as XSA-201); equally, the right to set > > > a di

Re: [Xen-devel] Possible improvement to Xen Security Response Process

2016-12-05 Thread Stefano Stabellini
On Mon, 5 Dec 2016, Jan Beulich wrote: > >>> On 05.12.16 at 15:17, wrote: > > From a security purist point of view, any delay in publication could > > increase the possibility of vulnerabilities being exploited in the > > wild. However, given the significant frequency of publication of XSAs, > >

Re: [Xen-devel] Possible improvement to Xen Security Response Process

2016-12-05 Thread Jan Beulich
>>> On 05.12.16 at 15:17, wrote: > From a security purist point of view, any delay in publication could > increase the possibility of vulnerabilities being exploited in the > wild. However, given the significant frequency of publication of XSAs, > I’d suggest that users failing to keep up with t

[Xen-devel] Possible improvement to Xen Security Response Process

2016-12-05 Thread Matthew Allen
According to https://xenbits.xen.org/xsa/ we are in the middle of 4 consecutive Tuesdays of security announcements: XSA-19[1-8] on Nov. 22, XSA-201 Nov. 29, XSA-199 Dec. 6 and XSA-200 Dec. 13. The present security policy does not encourage batching of XSAs and I would like us to consider refining