Re: [WiX-users] rfc: Package element changes

2006-08-07 Thread Richard Willis
Derek Cicerone wrote: >That's an idea, but then we'd be blocking off guids that people can never >use. That's a good idea though. Perhaps we could just interpret the >"PUT-GUID-HERE" values as a null guid or something when a special hidden >candle option is specified. > > Aren't Guids supposed

Re: [WiX-users] rfc: Package element changes

2006-08-04 Thread Derek Cicerone
ve a special process that runs over unit test files before they are sent to the compiler to fill in guids. Derek -Original Message- From: Richard Willis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 1:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 'WiX-users' Subject: Re: [WiX-

Re: [WiX-users] rfc: Package element changes

2006-08-04 Thread Richard Willis
y, August 02, 2006 10:16 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Bob Arnson' >Cc: 'DEÁK JAHN Gábor'; 'WiX-users'; 'Rob Mensching' >Subject: RE: [WiX-users] rfc: Package element changes > >All examples should use "PUT-GUID-HERE". You get a nic

Re: [WiX-users] rfc: Package element changes

2006-08-03 Thread Tony Hoyle
Jeremy Farrell wrote: > I agree totally. As far as I'm concerned this is a useful feature. I > want to be sure the ProductCode changes every time, to ensure that it is > impossible to do anything other than major upgrades. This may be an > unusual requirement, but it's a valid one and I shouldn'

Re: [WiX-users] rfc: Package element changes

2006-08-03 Thread Derek Cicerone
Title: RE: [WiX-users] rfc: Package element changes Thanks for the feedback Jeremy.  I think that’s a valid concern, so the warning idea is definitely out.  So it sounds like the decision is basically between using * or lots of question marks.  If people feel that the star syntax is

Re: [WiX-users] rfc: Package element changes

2006-08-03 Thread Jeremy Farrell
Title: RE: [WiX-users] rfc: Package element changes From: Bob Arnson Sent: Wed 8/2/2006 8:44 AM > > Derek Cicerone wrote: > > I've done some more thinking about this.  I think Rob's main objection with > > making Product/@Id optional was that someone might accide

Re: [WiX-users] rfc: Package element changes

2006-08-02 Thread Derek Cicerone
TED]; 'Bob Arnson' Cc: 'DEÁK JAHN Gábor'; 'WiX-users'; 'Rob Mensching' Subject: RE: [WiX-users] rfc: Package element changes All examples should use "PUT-GUID-HERE". You get a nice error message from the compiler and it's pretty self explanat

Re: [WiX-users] rfc: Package element changes

2006-08-02 Thread Rob Mensching
ob Arnson' Cc: 'DEÁK JAHN Gábor'; 'WiX-users'; 'Rob Mensching' Subject: Re: [WiX-users] rfc: Package element changes Hmm, that's a very good point. I'm just trying to address Rob's concern that a developer wouldn't understand what it means to g

Re: [WiX-users] rfc: Package element changes

2006-08-02 Thread Rob Mensching
Strange is good in this case... auto-gen of GUIDs is a dangerous thing. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeremy Farrell Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 5:46 PM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] rfc: Package element changes It's not

Re: [WiX-users] rfc: Package element changes

2006-08-02 Thread Derek Cicerone
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Arnson Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 8:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 'DEÁK JAHN Gábor'; 'Rob Mensching'; 'WiX-users' Subject: Re: [WiX-users] rfc: Package element changes Derek Cicerone wrote: > I've done some more thi

Re: [WiX-users] rfc: Package element changes

2006-08-02 Thread Bob Arnson
Derek Cicerone wrote: > I've done some more thinking about this. I think Rob's main objection with > making Product/@Id optional was that someone might accidentally forget to > specify it. However, what if we displayed a warning to the user whenever > they omitted the Property/@Id attribute infor

Re: [WiX-users] rfc: Package element changes

2006-08-02 Thread Derek Cicerone
ct: Re: [WiX-users] rfc: Package element changes That's correct - we generate the entire guid every time. Derek -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DEÁK JAHN, Gábor Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 1:14 AM To: WiX-users Subject: [WiX-users

Re: [WiX-users] rfc: Package element changes

2006-08-02 Thread Derek Cicerone
That's correct - we generate the entire guid every time. Derek -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DEÁK JAHN, Gábor Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 1:14 AM To: WiX-users Subject: [WiX-users] rfc: Package element changes On Tue, 1 Aug

[WiX-users] rfc: Package element changes

2006-08-02 Thread DE�K JAHN, G�bor
On Tue, 1 Aug 2006 16:44:39 -0400, Dave Williamson wrote: Dave, > I assume that "12345678----??5??" makes up all > the GUID parts except for 12345678 and 5. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong but as far as I know GUIDs are always created complete. There is no such thing as par

Re: [WiX-users] rfc: Package element changes

2006-08-01 Thread Bob Arnson
Derek Cicerone wrote: Just a note: the Product/@Id should almost never be auto-generated because that forces major upgrades every time.  Major upgrades are a perfectly valid lifestyle choice. But why would * be better than “----?”

Re: [WiX-users] rfc: Package element changes

2006-08-01 Thread Jeremy Farrell
ROTECTED]Cc: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.netSubject: Re: [WiX-users] rfc: Package element changes Just a note: the Product/@Id should almost never be auto-generated because that forces major upgrades every time.  But why would * be better than “----

Re: [WiX-users] rfc: Package element changes

2006-08-01 Thread Dave Williamson
#x27;Bob Arnson'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Cc: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.netSubject: Re: [WiX-users] rfc: Package element changes Just a note: the Product/@Id should almost never be auto-generated because that forces major upgrades every time.  But why wo

Re: [WiX-users] rfc: Package element changes

2006-08-01 Thread Derek Cicerone
, 2006 8:37 AM To: 'Bob Arnson'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [WiX-users] rfc: Package element changes   I have no opinion on that.  Anybody else care?     From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Arnson Sent: Monda

Re: [WiX-users] rfc: Package element changes

2006-08-01 Thread Rob Mensching
I have no opinion on that.  Anybody else care?     From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Arnson Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 3:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WiX-users] rfc: Package element

Re: [WiX-users] rfc: Package element changes

2006-07-31 Thread Bob Arnson
Derek Cicerone wrote: That is an excellent point – what if we keep the ???... syntax just for Product/@Id in that case and go with the recommendations below for everything else? Any chance of a different syntax? @Id="*" maybe, keeping with the wildcard scheme? -- sig://boB

Re: [WiX-users] rfc: Package element changes

2006-07-31 Thread Rob Mensching
I'd be okay with that. From: Derek Cicerone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 10:47 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [WiX-users] rfc: Package element changes That is an exce

Re: [WiX-users] rfc: Package element changes

2006-07-31 Thread Derek Cicerone
PROTECTED]; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [WiX-users] rfc: Package element changes   Product/@Id is a kinda' scary thing to make optional.  What if someone just accidentally forgets to add one?  Or what if someone copies an example that didn't add it?  The developer will end

Re: [WiX-users] rfc: Package element changes

2006-07-31 Thread Rob Mensching
oposed but I'm concerned about the potential for accidents.   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Derek Cicerone Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 23:16 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [WiX-users] rfc: Package element changes   We’ve recently disc

[WiX-users] rfc: Package element changes

2006-07-30 Thread Derek Cicerone
We’ve recently discovered that the way WiX creates merge modules is a little bit incorrect.  Every merge module has a unique guid which is used to modularize all the entries in the merge module (WiX does this properly).  However, that guid is also supposed to be used as the package code (su