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--- On Tue, 12/30/08, John Robbins wrote:
> From: John Robbins
> Subject: RE: [WiX-users] WIX 3 - Suggestions
> To: "chr...@deploymentengineering
30, 2008 1:42 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] WIX 3 - Suggestions
Why do you want to harvest to separate directory structures into one
output file? Use smaller files (Fragments), make your setup code
manageable.
Even if there is a good reason (y
o: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] WIX 3 - Suggestions
Jeremy Lew wrote:
> Well, I was talking about the Id values not the Guid values. They
need
> to be unique as well, no? Or only within their directory?
>
Heat should already be generating
ndows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] WIX 3 - Suggestions
Jeremy Lew wrote:
> Well, I was talking about the Id values not the Guid values. They
need
> to be unique as well, no? Or only within their directory?
>
Heat should already be generating unique (though *not *st
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Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 10:21
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] WIX 3 - Suggestions
John Robbins wrote:
> I can't help but think that it sounds like the whole patching system in
> Windows Installer is
Jeremy Lew wrote:
> Well, I was talking about the Id values not the Guid values. They need
> to be unique as well, no? Or only within their directory?
>
Heat should already be generating unique (though *not *stable) IDs when
there are multiple files with the same name in different directorie
John Robbins wrote:
> I can't help but think that it sounds like the whole patching system in
> Windows Installer is not really a viable solution for the real world. Bummer.
>
Hmmm...If all of software were easy, there'd be little room for some of
us to provide "consulting & debugging and tra
nately baked into the very heart of the installer.
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From: John Robbins [mailto:j...@wintellect.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 09:00
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] WIX 3 - Suggestions
>> http://trentm.com/b
Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] WIX 3 - Suggestions
You mean like the Directory/@ComponentGuidGenerationSeed?
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From: Jeremy Lew [mailto:j...@liquidmachines.com]
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 14:41
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset
[mailto:chr...@deploymentengineering.com]
>Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 11:25 PM
>To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
>Subject: Re: [WiX-users] WIX 3 - Suggestions
>
>MSI does a handful of things very well at the expense of just about
>everything else.They'll never
>> http://trentm.com/blog/archives/2007/05/29/wix-and-msp/. The idea is
>you replace the element with a like the following:
>>
>> >Guid='C7D97EA9-83DF-4B07-8E38-D10A30F70FD2'>
>>
>>
>> In my installers, I'm using patches to upgrade and the above trick
>does work.
>Do you do QFEs?
Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] WIX 3 - Suggestions
You mean like the Directory/@ComponentGuidGenerationSeed?
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From: Jeremy Lew [mailto:j...@liquidmachines.com]
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 14:41
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset
John Robbins wrote:
> http://trentm.com/blog/archives/2007/05/29/wix-and-msp/. The idea is you
> replace the element with a like the following:
>
> Guid='C7D97EA9-83DF-4B07-8E38-D10A30F70FD2'>
>
>
>
> In my installers, I'm using patches to upgrade and the above trick does work.
>
Neil Sleightholm wrote:
> Just to clarify, is that only true for minor upgrades? I thought major
> upgrades would remove files if they are no longer in the msi.
>
Kinda sorta: http://www.joyofsetup.com/2008/12/30/paying-for-upgrades/.
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From: Neil Sleightholm [mailto:n...@x2systems.com]
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 23:56
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] WIX 3 - Suggestions
I have seen that option before and obviously didn't
aller XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] WIX 3 - Suggestions
Just to clarify, is that only true for minor upgrades? I thought major upgrades
would remove files if they are no longer in the msi.
Neil
Neil Sleightholm
X2 Systems Limited
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Sent: Tue 30/12/2008 03:03
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] WIX 3 - Suggestions
Rob Mensching wrote:
> For Components with one file each... maybe. It's the closest we've come.
> Still experimental (one reas
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From: Rob Mensching [mailto:rob.mensch...@microsoft.com]
Sent: Mon 29/12/2008 21:09
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] WIX 3 - Suggestions
Uhh, heat already supports that with the
component as transitive and assign it a no-op condition.
It's a pain, but it does work.
--- On Tue, 12/30/08, John Robbins wrote:
> From: John Robbins
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] WIX 3 - Suggestions
> To: "General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset."
>
> D
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>-Original Message-
>From: Bob Arnson [mailto:b...@joyofsetup.com]
>Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 7:04 PM
>To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
>Subject: Re: [WiX-users] WIX 3 - Suggestions
>
>Rob Mensching w
Rob Mensching wrote:
> For Components with one file each... maybe. It's the closest we've come.
> Still experimental (one reason it isn't documented well).
>
It breaks down whenever files are removed, which is a problem especially
for Web apps.
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You mean like the Directory/@ComponentGuidGenerationSeed?
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From: Jeremy Lew [mailto:j...@liquidmachines.com]
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 14:41
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] WIX 3 - Suggestions
I played around with
nd of prefix to make the uniqueness work out.
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From: Rob Mensching [mailto:rob.mensch...@microsoft.com]
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 5:22 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] WIX 3 - Suggestions
For Components with one
s Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] WIX 3 - Suggestions
So, does heat -ag not solve the component rules problem?
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From: Rob Mensching [mailto:rob.mensch...@microsoft.com]
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 4:09 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Instal
So, does heat -ag not solve the component rules problem?
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From: Rob Mensching [mailto:rob.mensch...@microsoft.com]
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 4:09 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] WIX 3 - Suggestions
Uhh, heat
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Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 1:09 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] WIX 3 - Suggestions
How is it different than heat?
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From: Ian Elliott (Excell Data Corporation) [mailto:a-iae...@microsoft.
Uhh, heat already supports that with the -ag switch.
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From: Neil Sleightholm [mailto:n...@x2systems.com]
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 13:00
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] WIX 3 - Suggestions
2. I would suggest that
How is it different than heat?
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From: Ian Elliott (Excell Data Corporation) [mailto:a-iae...@microsoft.com]
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 13:05
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] WIX 3 - Suggestions
I also have a home
[mailto:j...@liquidmachines.com]
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 12:36
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] WIX 3 - Suggestions
Can you elaborate on which of the component rules #2 presents problem
for? I wrote a tool to auto-gen my components from my
neral discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] WIX 3 - Suggestions
Rob,
Thanks for your response. If I have extra time this week I can look into
creating a WIX extension for the package registration. I don't mind adding
to existing documentation if there is any e
toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] WIX 3 - Suggestions
Can you elaborate on which of the component rules #2 presents problem
for? I wrote a tool to auto-gen my components from my web structure as
well. It puts every file in its own component with a new Guid for the
id. Is this approach problemat
share on SourceForge where such tools can be uploaded for
others to access?
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From: Jeremy Lew [mailto:j...@liquidmachines.com]
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 12:36 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] WIX 3 - Suggestions
does?
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From: Rob Mensching [mailto:rob.mensch...@microsoft.com]
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 1:55 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] WIX 3 - Suggestions
1. It would be fantastic if someone wrote the extension that
Rob,
Thanks for your response. If I have extra time this week I can look into
creating a WIX extension for the package registration. I don't mind adding
to existing documentation if there is any easy way to do it. Let me know if
the manual is online in some sort of wiki or other editable form an
o one steps up to help.
The active volunteers on the WiX toolset are all busy fixing bugs.
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From: Frankenspank [mailto:frankensp...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 06:52
To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] WIX 3 - Suggestions
Joh
generation and MSI it can
> completely screw up component rules if used incorrectly.
>
> John
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> >From: Frankenspank [mailto:frankensp...@gmail.com]
> >Sent: Sunday
om: Frankenspank [mailto:frankensp...@gmail.com]
>Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 7:43 AM
>To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
>Subject: [WiX-users] WIX 3 - Suggestions
>
>These suggestions are primarily for the dev team. I am not an expert on
>deployment, but I have used InstallShield,
These suggestions are primarily for the dev team. I am not an expert on
deployment, but I have used InstallShield, NSIS and Visual Studio to create
installers in the past. Overall, I have found the easiest to use and
maintain to be NSIS.
I've recently started a project using WIX, the existing in
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