ll with us (and has
been since the Windows Installer was written ).
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blair Murri
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 21:24
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Subject: R
alf Of Christopher
Painter
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 10:32 AM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Merge Module Help
What feedback? All I saw was a childish quip/troll post.
Personally I'm sick of the component rules and it's associa
From: Rob Mensching <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Merge Module Help
> To: "General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset."
>
> Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 11:39 AM
> Hey, wait a minute here.
>
> First, Automating Component/@Guids
> 1. How do you manage updates to the "database" in source
> control? Do people update the file before building or does
> the build machine checkout/checkin automatically? If the
> latter, what source control systems does it support... (you
> can see where I'm going )?
We use cvsnt as our s
the
Component/@Guid creates.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Arnson
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 08:47
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Merge Module Help
Christopher Karper wrote
his better than using auto-generated-stable Guids?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Hall
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 01:28
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Merge Module Help
> The cas
aller XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Merge Module Help
John Hall wrote:
> Ah, we don't do patches, which is why it works for me :)
>
That's also an option. That's what ClickThrough does, using "early"
major upgrades every time. In that case, you don't
ere. This is where we talk
about the WiX toolset.
Thank you.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Arnson
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 08:54
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John Hall wrote:
> Ah, we don't do patches, which is why it works for me :)
>
That's also an option. That's what ClickThrough does, using "early"
major upgrades every time. In that case, you don't even need stable IDs.
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> John Hall wrote:
> > I have written a tool that auto-generates .wxs files for some parts
> > of my project - we ship a lot of example scripts. It only handles
> > files and generates one component per file. The tool maintains a
> > database (well, an XML file) that lists all the GUIDs ever
> > a
Christopher Painter wrote:
> Once again you pedantically pick through my comment without actually offering
> anything constructive yourself.
Wow, I'm really put in my place, aren't I?
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I was thinking that the missing file would be the exception. Can you clarify
what you have in mind?
--- On Wed, 7/23/08, Christopher Karper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From: Christopher Karper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Merge Module Help
> To: &q
Christopher Karper wrote:
> FWIW, I personally would rather manage the process by exception, instead of
> *always*.
>
Yes, some help is usually better than none. It's all about managing
expectations. If it's possible to automatically generate the original
setups, not being able to generate pa
>
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Merge Module Help
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "General discussion for Windows Installer XML
> toolset."
> Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 10:33 AM
> Christopher Painter wrote:
> > This would be a pretty easy scenario to handle. Check
&
FWIW, I personally would rather manage the process by exception, instead of
*always*.
Chris
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 11:33 AM, Bob Arnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Christopher Painter wrote:
> > This would be a pretty easy scenario to handle. Check the WXS against
> the XML and if a component
Christopher Painter wrote:
> This would be a pretty easy scenario to handle. Check the WXS against the
> XML and if a component is missing, throw an error and suggest the puncture
> component pattern ( transitive=true condition=false, 0 byte files for
> storage )
>
"Throw an error" isn't t
wrote:
> From: Bob Arnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Merge Module Help
> To: "General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset."
>
> Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 9:32 AM
> John Hall wrote:
> > I have written a tool that auto-generates
John Hall wrote:
> I have written a tool that auto-generates .wxs files for some parts of
> my project - we ship a lot of example scripts. It only handles files and
> generates one component per file. The tool maintains a database (well,
> an XML file) that lists all the GUIDs ever allocated, and a
> The case that gets really tricky is to have one build where a Resource
> disappears (usually accidentally) then the next build where the
> Resource comes back. It needs to get the same Component and GUID.
I have written a tool that auto-generates .wxs files for some parts of
my project - we s
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Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 17:49
To: 'General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.'
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Merge Module Help
That's an excellent point. The devil, as always, is in the details of when
someone screws u
s Minnis
Sent: Sat 19/07/2008 21:11
To: 'General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.'
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Merge Module Help
Based on what people said in earlier messages, I'm migrating to using a
wixlib with a fragment generated by Heat. A lack of samples or useful
d
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wix-users-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Mensching
> Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 1:15 PM
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Merge Module Help
>
> I think you've over-simplified the
lf Of James Minnis
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 13:08
To: 'General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.'
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Merge Module Help
I couldn't find a feature request for that with a couple of quick searches,
but it is possible that I missed it.
This is defi
nstaller XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Merge Module Help
>
> James Minnis wrote:
> > Right now, I'm generating a merge module
>
> Do you have a specific need for a merge module? (i.e., are you sharing
> it with others so they can create installers?) If not, avoid m
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> Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 11:01 AM
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Merge Module Help
>
> This is a constant feature request (I'm surprised there isn't a feature
> request alrea
it will get some
attention.
-Jamey
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wix-users-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Luke Bakken
> Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 8:09 AM
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Merg
James Minnis wrote:
> Right now, I'm generating a merge module
Do you have a specific need for a merge module? (i.e., are you sharing
it with others so they can create installers?) If not, avoid merge
modules. They needlessly complicate things, as you're finding out with #1.
> 1) I want to cre
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wix-users-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Luke Bakken
> Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 8:09 AM
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Merge Module Help
>
> >> I'm surpr
>> I'm surprised that Heat doesn't have the functionality of leaving the
>> existing GUIDs in place. I just presumed I wasn't seeing how to do it.
>
> There was (is?) a project called "Paraffin" (http://xrl.us/mnhwj) for
> managing GUIDs. I've never used it so I can't vouch for it, but it may
> be
> updates, but it is very much not ideal. The biggest problem with this is
> the lag in the Visual Studio IDE when dealing with a roughly 3 MB XML file
> for the merge module.
Don't use VS to edit your XML. Something like Notepad2 or Vim or any
modern text editor should work great.
> I'm surpris
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> > Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 5:52 PM
> > To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Merge Module Help
> >
> > I can't really answer intelligently to question #1, as
for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Merge Module Help
>
> I can't really answer intelligently to question #1, as to question #2,
> I'll
> do my best.
>
> Heat is really built for initial import functionality, not continual
> maintenance
I can't really answer intelligently to question #1, as to question #2, I'll
do my best.
Heat is really built for initial import functionality, not continual
maintenance. You do not want your GUIDs changing on your components with
each build, it will turn upgrades into a nightmare, and will make p
I'm working on a fairly large installer. It contains roughly 7000 files in
165 folders and a total of 670 MB of uncompressed data. Needless to say,
I'm generating the files, components, and directories using Heat.
Right now, I'm generating a merge module WXS file using Heat and then using
the Me
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