Re: [WiX-users] Imperfect install leading to repair.

2014-01-31 Thread Keith.Douglas
inal Message- From: Phil Wilson [mailto:phildgwil...@gmail.com] Sent: January-30-14 1:20 PM To: General discussion about the WiX toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Imperfect install leading to repair. "Pilot error" is just a euphemism for an error in the MSI. If the component is tran

Re: [WiX-users] Imperfect install leading to repair.

2014-01-30 Thread Phil Wilson
ernment of Canada | Gouvernement du Canada > > > -Original Message- > From: Phil Wilson [mailto:phildgwil...@gmail.com] > Sent: January-29-14 7:52 PM > To: General discussion about the WiX toolset. > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Imperfect install leading to repai

Re: [WiX-users] Imperfect install leading to repair.

2014-01-30 Thread Keith.Douglas
one 613-951-4405 Facsimile | Télécopieur 613-951-1966 Government of Canada | Gouvernement du Canada -Original Message- From: Phil Wilson [mailto:phildgwil...@gmail.com] Sent: January-29-14 7:52 PM To: General discussion about the WiX toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Imperfect inst

Re: [WiX-users] Imperfect install leading to repair.

2014-01-30 Thread Keith.Douglas
PM To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Imperfect install leading to repair. if the install was a major upgrade and that file was in-use during the uninstall then it may get deleted on reboot. That happens a lot because MSI is too stupid to check if fir

Re: [WiX-users] Imperfect install leading to repair.

2014-01-29 Thread Scott Palmer
If you don't believe it.. Try it out. We hit this all the time if we aren't careful to make sure that we wait for services to stop on uninstall. Even if we ask the service to stop, if we make it asynchronous the delete can happen while the service is still shutting down, so files are in use.

Re: [WiX-users] Imperfect install leading to repair.

2014-01-29 Thread Nicolás Alvarez
Can somebody else confirm this can happen? Upgraded in-use files disappearing on reboot sounds like something so serious that Windows Installer wouldn't have been released with such an issue. And otherwise we would be hearing about it all the time. -- Nicolas 2014-01-29 Scott Palmer : > if the i

Re: [WiX-users] Imperfect install leading to repair.

2014-01-29 Thread Phil Wilson
Apart from "pilot error" with components or whatever, it's worth noting that there is a bug on older OS versions where upgrades lose SxS files, in the GAC and in WinSxS, repair restores them. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/905238/en-us --- Phil Wilson On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 3:39 PM

Re: [WiX-users] Imperfect install leading to repair.

2014-01-29 Thread Scott Palmer
if the install was a major upgrade and that file was in-use during the uninstall then it may get deleted on reboot. That happens a lot because MSI is too stupid to check if fire that it might install are already scheduled to be deleted on reboot. So the new file gets installed and then deleted. Sc

[WiX-users] Imperfect install leading to repair.

2014-01-29 Thread Keith.Douglas
Hi everyone, I just released a new MSI for an upgraded version of one of our in house applications. This is about the 16th iteration (we've been in testing for most of this, so each new one is a full package with a MajorUpgrade) and all the rest have been successful, until today. One file did