Re: [Wikimediauk-l] So who knows about their local wifi?

2012-05-01 Thread geni
On 30 April 2012 22:56, Roger Bamkin wrote: > Hi guys, > > I'm interested in wifis. We have some concerns about the legalities of > allowing anonymous users to use a free wifi system without giving their > email addresses or agreeing to terms and conditions. Can't tell you where - > but you might

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] So who knows about their local wifi?

2012-05-01 Thread Thomas Morton
On 1 May 2012 10:06, geni wrote: > On 30 April 2012 22:56, Roger Bamkin > wrote: > > Hi guys, > > > > I'm interested in wifis. We have some concerns about the legalities of > > allowing anonymous users to use a free wifi system without giving their > > email addresses or agreeing to terms and co

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] So who knows about their local wifi?

2012-05-01 Thread David Gerard
On 1 May 2012 10:35, Thomas Morton wrote: > More than anything it depends on the context; if you are talking about a > small endeavour at, say, a meeting venue you're probably alright using an > ad-hoc setup. But if you are talking an entirely public network then things > are more complex. > To b

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] So who knows about their local wifi?

2012-05-01 Thread Tom Morris
On 1 May 2012 11:04, David Gerard wrote: > On 1 May 2012 10:35, Thomas Morton wrote: > >> More than anything it depends on the context; if you are talking about a >> small endeavour at, say, a meeting venue you're probably alright using an >> ad-hoc setup. But if you are talking an entirely publi

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] So who knows about their local wifi?

2012-05-01 Thread David Gerard
On 1 May 2012 11:24, Tom Morris wrote: > On 1 May 2012 11:04, David Gerard wrote: >> I note also the Hack Day Manifesto (really a how-to), which goes into >> quite some detail on the technical side (though not the legal one): >> http://hackdaymanifesto.com/ > As one of the Hack Day Manifesto dr

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK communications review - Wiki page created for input

2012-05-01 Thread Stevie Benton
Hello again, Just a reminder of the below. Please do take a look and share your thoughts on the article and discussion page at http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/2012_communications_review Many thanks, Stevie On 23/04/2012 14:59, Stevie Benton wrote: Hello everyone, There's a need for a thoroug

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] So who knows about their local wifi?

2012-05-01 Thread brian.mcneil
Forgive the scathing cynicism, but we're governed by retards who I wouldn't trust to change a 13-amp fuse! Let alone actually realise that 99% of household equipment could get by with a 1-amp, or less, fuse. I _know_ my local WiFi ;-) (SSID: xx, Key: not telling). I also know that WEP is

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Office] Wikimedia UK communications review - Wiki page created for input

2012-05-01 Thread Richard Symonds
To expand on this a little: this review will affect how we talk to the UK list, our members, the general UK Wikimedia community, etc. It's vitally important that everyone puts their views on here: how could we communicate better? Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Disclaimer viewable at ht

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] So who knows about their local wifi?

2012-05-01 Thread Roger Bamkin
You have again exceed my expectations. I knew this was a tricky area and you have mapped it's boundaries and key features. Same as I would have got from three trips to a lawyer . THX On May 1, 2012 2:10 PM, wrote: > Forgive the scathing cynicism, but we're governed by retards who I > wouldn't tr

[Wikimediauk-l] Olympic mascots on Commons

2012-05-01 Thread Tom Morris
I proudly present, those ghastly Olympics mascots, now available on Wikimedia Commons: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Olympic_mascots.jpg I shall now await being sued by Lord Coe and the LOGOC and/or a massive deletion debate on Commons. -- Tom Morris ___

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Olympic mascots on Commons

2012-05-01 Thread Richard Symonds
OGL? Is it? Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Disclaimer viewable at http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia:Email_disclaimer Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk On 1 May 2012 16:30, Tom Morris wrote: > > I proudly present, those ghastly Olympics mascots, now available

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Olympic mascots on Commons

2012-05-01 Thread Richard Symonds
Perhaps I should rephrase my previous nonsensical reply: Is this really OGL? I suppose it is, but the Flickr account seems to think it's non-commercial... Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Disclaimer viewable at http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia:Email_disclaimer Visit http://www.wik

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Olympic mascots on Commons

2012-05-01 Thread Tom Morris
On Tuesday, 1 May 2012 at 16:45, Richard Symonds wrote: > Perhaps I should rephrase my previous nonsensical reply: > > Is this really OGL? I suppose it is, but the Flickr account seems to think > it's non-commercial... Yes. It's published by the DCMS, and according to their website, it's Crown

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Olympic mascots on Commons

2012-05-01 Thread Richard Symonds
Fantastic Tom! 10/10. I withdraw my earlier nonsensical question. Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Disclaimer viewable at http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia:Email_disclaimer Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk On 1 May 2012 16:51, Tom Morris wrote: > On Tuesday,

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Olympic mascots on Commons

2012-05-01 Thread Chris Keating
I imagine the mascots are trademarks, and that the OGL doesn't release the trademarks as well or does it? Chris On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Richard Symonds < richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk> wrote: > Fantastic Tom! 10/10. I withdraw my earlier nonsensical question. > > Richard Symonds >

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Olympic mascots on Commons

2012-05-01 Thread Michael Peel
Trademark and copyright law are two separate things - you can release the copyright on something whilst keeping the trademark. See: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Trademark#Trademark_law Thanks, Mike On 1 May 2012, at 18:54, Chris Keating wrote: > I imagine the mascots are trademarks, and th

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Olympic mascots on Commons

2012-05-01 Thread Michael Peel
I meant to add before clicking 'send': I imagine that's what OGL does, release the copyright but not the trademark (as is standard for free licenses). Mike On 1 May 2012, at 18:58, Michael Peel wrote: > Trademark and copyright law are two separate things - you can release the > copyright on so