I meant to add before clicking 'send': I imagine that's what OGL does, release 
the copyright but not the trademark (as is standard for free licenses).

Mike

On 1 May 2012, at 18:58, Michael Peel wrote:

> Trademark and copyright law are two separate things - you can release the 
> copyright on something whilst keeping the trademark. See:
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Trademark#Trademark_law
> 
> Thanks,
> Mike
> 
> On 1 May 2012, at 18:54, Chris Keating wrote:
> 
>> I imagine the mascots are trademarks, and that the OGL doesn't release the 
>> trademarks as well.... or does it?
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Richard Symonds 
>> <richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:
>> Fantastic Tom! 10/10. I withdraw my earlier nonsensical question.
>> 
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>> On 1 May 2012 16:51, Tom Morris <t...@tommorris.org> wrote:
>> On Tuesday, 1 May 2012 at 16:45, Richard Symonds wrote:
>> 
>>> Perhaps I should rephrase my previous nonsensical reply:
>>> 
>>> Is this really OGL? I suppose it is, but the Flickr account seems to think 
>>> it's non-commercial...
>> 
>> Yes. It's published by the DCMS, and according to their website, it's Crown 
>> Copyright, and thus under the terms of the PSI Framework, is OGL.
>> 
>> http://www.dcms.gov.uk/copyright.aspx
>> http://www.dcms.gov.uk/7085.aspx#Flickr_policy
>> 
>> There's no indication on the Flickr page that it is owned by anyone other 
>> than the DCMS, and thus we have good reason to believe it's covered by the 
>> OGL. There is an existing license on the Flickr images, and reusers are free 
>> to reuse it under CC BY-NC-ND if they feel so inclined. But we've had other 
>> OGL images from other government departments that are also licensed on 
>> Flickr as some variant of CC that's not Commons compatible.
>> 
>> The DCMS are aware though, through Twitter and email. As are James Forrester 
>> and various other people who grok OGL.
>> 
>> --
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