Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Schools projects

2011-06-07 Thread Michael Peel
> You would need to explain what we can do better than: > > http://www.imagesofengland.org.uk/ > > Higher res yes but beyond that? That's easy: - Available under a free license. This is important as it means the images can be distributed more widely, and reused for more things. Also, being ab

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Schools projects

2011-06-07 Thread geni
On 6 June 2011 12:47, WereSpielChequers wrote: > I was recently involved in a children's photography competition > through another organisation I'm involved in. I think that commons and > "Wiki loves monuments" has a huge opportunity there, as most UK kids > now seem to have access to digital came

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Schools projects

2011-06-07 Thread Thomas Morton
There is a lot of interesting stuff here... I've been swamped with email the last few days and only just catching up so bear with me :D Roger, you have way more experience than me! So I am glad we agree on the best way to approach this. A few years back I watched someone do a power point presentat

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Schools projects

2011-06-06 Thread george . watson
n, 06 Jun 2011 18:29:58 To: Reply-To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Schools projects On Mon, 2011-06-06 at 18:19 +0100, steve virgin wrote: > "we can join the army, have sex, and smoke, if we are that way inclined" > > George - a word of advice

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Schools projects

2011-06-06 Thread Christophe Henner
auk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 16:53:58 To: Reply-To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Schools projects Surely you needn't even force them to register for Commons at all? Just make your own child-friendly submissions page, temporarily ho

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Schools projects

2011-06-06 Thread Brian McNeil
19 > To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Schools projects > > Regarding not using full names until the age of 18, I think that's a > somewhat high age limit. > While my username is a pseudonym, I, at only 16, am an accredited Wikinewsie > and OT

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Schools projects

2011-06-06 Thread steve virgin
s.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of george.wat...@wikinewsie.org Sent: 06 June 2011 17:19 To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Schools projects Regarding not using full names until the age of 18, I think that's a somewhat high age limit. While my username is a pseudony

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Schools projects

2011-06-06 Thread george . watson
auk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 16:53:58 To: Reply-To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Schools projects Surely you needn't even force them to register for Commons at all? Just make your own child-friendly submissions page, temporarily ho

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Schools projects

2011-06-06 Thread Jarry 1250
Surely you needn't even force them to register for Commons at all? Just make your own child-friendly submissions page, temporarily hosting them then transferring them en masse to Commons on the children's behalf. -- Harry (User:Jarry1250) On 6 June 2011 12:47, WereSpielChequers wrote: > I was re

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Schools projects

2011-06-06 Thread WereSpielChequers
I was recently involved in a children's photography competition through another organisation I'm involved in. I think that commons and "Wiki loves monuments" has a huge opportunity there, as most UK kids now seem to have access to digital cameras and the Internet. It would be great to launch a "Wik

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Schools projects

2011-06-05 Thread Martin Poulter
Chris, what I understand by schools outreach is getting the educational benefits of WM projects into schools - via teachers. Hence still an adult audience. On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Chris Keating wrote: > > >> Pitching this stuff is hard; kids at different ages see things >> differently, a

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Schools projects - evening courses

2011-06-05 Thread Brian McNeil
Has anyone been in touch with User:jbmurray regarding his use of Wikipedia in academia? I know he's not in the UK, but it may be useful to put curious or interested UK academics in touch with him. I suspect he could highlight a lot of things to avoid, plus extol the educational virtues of getting

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Schools projects - evening courses

2011-06-05 Thread Roger Bamkin
Tom, WSC Be Bold if you have time. @Tom would the OU Do this for us? I could see it as a supplemental module to a number of courses. regards Roger On 3 June 2011 22:11, Thomas Morton wrote: > This is an interesting line of thought. > > I think a lot could be done with local experts. > >

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Schools projects

2011-06-05 Thread Roger Bamkin
Hi Tom, I'm not sure if my experience is more than yours (5 years ish) but I will be doing this "hands on". I'm intending to use the real wikipedia so it I may need to find some support to rollback damage. (Any volunteers out there - leave a message off list) I have asked classes to get accounts a

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Schools projects

2011-06-05 Thread Patel, Vinesh
I'm working with a few lecturers for a CA program at Imperial; Alex is involved and is training me as an ambassador. Vinesh President, WPians at Imperial College On 4 Jun 2011, at 22:16, "Martin Poulter" mailto:infob...@gmail.com>> wrote: I can see five broad ways we can try and engage in ed

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Schools projects

2011-06-05 Thread Chris Keating
> > Pitching this stuff is hard; kids at different ages see things differently, > and kids in different areas age at different speeds. > I think you've hit one of the main challenge of schools outreach on the head. We are starting to have a "recipe" for introducing adult organisations to Wikipedi

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Schools projects

2011-06-04 Thread Martin Poulter
I can see five broad ways we can try and engage in education. The diversity of possibilities is great but it means that it's difficult to take a structured approach: each of these things needs a proper working group or task force, and effort on many fronts, in order to have a chance of success. Hen

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Schools projects

2011-06-03 Thread Thomas Morton
Roger, Would be interested to see if Martin made any progress with that. I have to submit lesson plans next week so hopefully might have something of my own to contribute by then. Pitching this stuff is hard; kids at different ages see things differently, and kids in different areas age at differ

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Schools projects - evening courses

2011-06-03 Thread Thomas Morton
This is an interesting line of thought. I think a lot could be done with local experts. I've been talking to my OU lecturer about this and they strike me as another good avenue for doing adult/expert education of Wikipedia. Tom On 3 June 2011 16:52, Roger Bamkin wrote: > So we need a lead per

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Schools projects - evening courses

2011-06-03 Thread Roger Bamkin
So we need a lead person or project. Anything that (in time) would have a broader effect than a single evening course would I believe get a good hearing for seed funding/ support Anyone? Roger B On 3 June 2011 14:48, WereSpielChequers wrote: > My Mum is active in her local branch of the Univer

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Schools projects

2011-06-03 Thread Roger Bamkin
I agree Charles. I've come across this with museum folk too who have written on Wikipedia that they have a larger chunk of a particular mineral than anyone else in the world. When it comes down to it, they don't know if this is true and they have never published the claim so they cannot write

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Schools projects - evening courses

2011-06-03 Thread Rod Ward
f Of WereSpielChequers Sent: 03 June 2011 14:48 To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Schools projects - evening courses My Mum is active in her local branch of the University of the third age, they struck me as a perfect partner for such an evening course. Especially if

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Schools projects - evening courses

2011-06-03 Thread WereSpielChequers
My Mum is active in her local branch of the University of the third age, they struck me as a perfect partner for such an evening course. Especially if the UK chapter were to offer the U3A a grant for hiring in approved Wikipedians to deliver said course. But please call it something other than "cr

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Schools projects

2011-06-03 Thread Charles Matthews
On 01/06/2011 22:36, Roger Bamkin wrote: > Two minor threads: Martin Poulter and I discussed how we could put > together a teaching plan so that someone like yourself could organise > an enevening course in "creating your own wiki page" ... not sure > whether Martin made any progress. I know he

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Schools projects

2011-06-01 Thread Roger Bamkin
Two minor threads: Martin Poulter and I discussed how we could put together a teaching plan so that someone like yourself could organise an enevening course in "creating your own wiki page" ... not sure whether Martin made any progress. I know he was investigating ... I suspect there are a lot of p

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Schools projects

2011-06-01 Thread Alex Stinson
There is an education list at https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education which appears to be one of the better ways to contact people because not everyone regularly checks outreach wiki (including myself). I invite people to join who want to work with Education and Wikimedia projects, i

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Schools projects

2011-06-01 Thread Thomas Morton
Hey Alex, Yes a lot of that has been my starting point. FWIW there is a lack of content for the younger age groups (say 14-16) which is where my current focus is; the "beginner" guides are more suited (at least in my experience of teaching) to older students. I'd also like to see some more materia

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Schools projects

2011-06-01 Thread Alex Stinson
"High school professors." Yikes! Meant teachers, not professors. I thought I fixed that in a second read. Been working with universities for too long. Tom, that sounds like something that could really use some development in the way of documented techniques or presenting the information. You may w

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Schools projects

2011-06-01 Thread Thomas Morton
Chris, Yes, that was my impression too - I have some ideas/proposals to try and bring into play but didn't want to step on top of an active project that I'd missed :P I'm based in Lincolnshire. Alex, I've been keeping a close eye on the Ambassadors project - it looks like some great work (yet

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Schools projects

2011-06-01 Thread Chris Keating
I think it's been hibernating for a while. I haven't heard it mentioned at all since the new Board took office. Of course, if someone wants to pick up the ball and run with it, that would be very welcome. Whereabouts are you, Tom? Regards, Chris On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Thomas Morton w

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Schools projects

2011-06-01 Thread Alex Stinson
Tom, Well recently I have been trying to build relationships at the University level in order to make Wikipedia more accessible along the lines of the Wikipedia Ambassador program in the US (Wikipedia Ambassadors UK http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Ambassadors/UK ). We have had particular su