Roger, Would be interested to see if Martin made any progress with that. I have to submit lesson plans next week so hopefully might have something of my own to contribute by then.
Pitching this stuff is hard; kids at different ages see things differently, and kids in different areas age at different speeds. On the other matter; you're clearly way more experienced at this teaching lark than me :) but personally I find that this is the sort of thing that is best taught by "doing". One thing I did with on old teaching group (last year) was set up a cloned wiki with some content copied from Wikipedia and got them to edit it over the course of a few sessions (including collaborating using talk pages etc.) One of the biggest problems with new editors is helping them understand the eco-system. Tom On 1 June 2011 22:36, Roger Bamkin <victuall...@gmail.com> wrote: > Two minor threads: Martin Poulter and I discussed how we could put together > a teaching plan so that someone like yourself could organise an enevening > course in "creating your own wiki page" ... not sure whether Martin made any > progress. I know he was investigating ... I suspect there are a lot of > people who would like to put their local history work into Wikipedia ... if > we just explained it and demo ed it at the same time. > > Other thread. I teach secondary ICT. I'm planning to teach intro to Wiki > editting next week. I have still to find some resources. Any help > appreciated. > > regards > Roger B > > On 1 June 2011 17:34, Alex Stinson <stins...@dukes.jmu.edu> wrote: > >> There is an education list at >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education which appears to >> be one of the better ways to contact people because not everyone regularly >> checks outreach wiki (including myself). I invite people to join who want to >> work with Education and Wikimedia projects, it include a fair number of >> Campus Ambassadors who are doing innovative stuff at universities as well as >> a number of other people in various chapters involved in education stuffs, >> >> Alex >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 5:29 PM, Thomas Morton < >> morton.tho...@googlemail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hey Alex, >>> >>> Yes a lot of that has been my starting point. FWIW there is a lack of >>> content for the younger age groups (say 14-16) which is where my current >>> focus is; the "beginner" guides are more suited (at least in my experience >>> of teaching) to older students. I'd also like to see some more material on >>> the goals/ideals of Wikipedia (as that seems a better start point before >>> leaping into account creation :)). >>> >>> Also I noticed that a lot of the focus is on editing or contributing >>> Wikipedia. I've approached this from a slightly different perspective - >>> which is that most of the kids I will be talking to aren't interested in >>> writing (and probably aren't yet capable of doing so) a Wikipedia article. >>> On the other hand I aim to teach them about using WP as a resource (and the >>> potential pitfalls) as well as trying to get them to treat it with respect >>> (i.e. quit the vandalism). >>> >>> Is there a place on Outreach where discussion of education/teaching >>> materials is happening? >>> >>> Tom >>> >>> On 1 June 2011 17:15, Alex Stinson <stins...@dukes.jmu.edu> wrote: >>> >>>> "High school professors." Yikes! Meant teachers, not professors. I >>>> thought I fixed that in a second read. Been working with universities for >>>> too long. >>>> >>>> Tom, that sounds like something that could really use some development >>>> in the way of documented techniques or presenting the information. You may >>>> want to check out the stuff on the Wikimedia Foundation bookshelf project >>>> for materials you can destribute instead of making all of them yourself ( >>>> http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bookshelf). We also have been >>>> developing a fair amount of stuff at the education portal on outreach, >>>> though still a work in progress ( >>>> http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education). Alot has already been >>>> developed in fairly professional ways, it just needs to be applied in the >>>> class room, >>>> >>>> Alex >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Thomas Morton < >>>> morton.tho...@googlemail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Chris, >>>>> >>>>> Yes, that was my impression too - I have some ideas/proposals to try >>>>> and bring into play but didn't want to step on top of an active project >>>>> that >>>>> I'd missed :P >>>>> >>>>> I'm based in Lincolnshire. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Alex, >>>>> >>>>> I've been keeping a close eye on the Ambassadors project - it looks >>>>> like some great work (yet another reason to wish I was a student again >>>>> :)). >>>>> Expanding that into schools is a major project, but one that I think would >>>>> net us some massive gains long term. I'd be really interested in hearing >>>>> about your work with the high school professors. >>>>> >>>>> In general: >>>>> >>>>> I've been interested in education for a while; I'm a scout leader here >>>>> & my parents have their own business doing educational visits to schools >>>>> on >>>>> the topic of astronomy (so I have fairly extensive experience of that sort >>>>> of "business model"). The reason I have a specific interest now is that >>>>> I've >>>>> been approached to look at doing an evening class on computers and the >>>>> internet at a local secondary school. One of the topics I want to cover is >>>>> Wikipedia and WP editing. >>>>> >>>>> I could put together some teaching material & release it for others to >>>>> use on an ad-hoc basis, but I think there is loads more we could expand >>>>> into >>>>> if WMUK were behind it - stuff like working with the teaching bodies to >>>>> get >>>>> WP recognised as a resource, and perhaps even worked into the curriculum >>>>> (at >>>>> the very least work with them to provide useful material for >>>>> teachers/students about Wikipedia). In fact, something like the training >>>>> events Cancer Research people (but for teachers) would be really >>>>> interesting >>>>> to explore. >>>>> >>>>> Another off-hand idea; it would be great to try and team up with some >>>>> of the GLAM institutions to run educational days (i.e. have groups of kids >>>>> turn up to learn about stuff using local and Wikipedia content, and to get >>>>> an introduction to Wikipedia). >>>>> >>>>> And more; we could use WMUK resources to train up and support Wikipedia >>>>> volunteers who want to go into the classroom - because teaching kids can >>>>> be >>>>> damned hard! >>>>> >>>>> There's a lot to focus on, but I think it is one of our most important >>>>> outreach areas in the UK. >>>>> >>>>> Tom >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 1 June 2011 16:40, Chris Keating <chriskeatingw...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I think it's been hibernating for a while. I haven't heard it >>>>>> mentioned at all since the new Board took office. >>>>>> >>>>>> Of course, if someone wants to pick up the ball and run with it, that >>>>>> would be very welcome. Whereabouts are you, Tom? >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> Chris >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Thomas Morton < >>>>>> morton.tho...@googlemail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hey all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What is the status of our work with schools/education? >>>>>>> http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Initiatives/Schools_project seems to be >>>>>>> a little stagnant, there are references to other School interactions on >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> Wiki (including a link to a hidden office page about the educational >>>>>>> budget). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is any of this still active? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I only ask because I've been approached locally to do some in-school >>>>>>> work relating to Wikipedia and it occurred to me that this is a major >>>>>>> area >>>>>>> we could be focusing on. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've got a decent amount of experience working with children, schools >>>>>>> and educators and it would be great to contribute that on a wider scale. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If none of those projects are particularly active, would anyone be >>>>>>> interested in working on this (including volunteering to go into >>>>>>> schools and >>>>>>> youth groups)? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tom / ErrantX >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Wikimedia UK mailing list >>>>>>> wikimediau...@wikimedia.org >>>>>>> http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l >>>>>>> WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Wikimedia UK mailing list >>>>>> wikimediau...@wikimedia.org >>>>>> http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l >>>>>> WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Wikimedia UK mailing list >>>>> wikimediau...@wikimedia.org >>>>> http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l >>>>> WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikimedia UK mailing list >>>> wikimediau...@wikimedia.org >>>> http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l >>>> WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimedia UK mailing list >>> wikimediau...@wikimedia.org >>> http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l >>> WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia UK mailing list >> wikimediau...@wikimedia.org >> http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l >> WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org >> >> > > > -- > Roger Bamkin > (aka Victuallers) > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia UK mailing list > wikimediau...@wikimedia.org > http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org > >
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