Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Cambridge meetup 21 May

2011-05-17 Thread Michael Peel
On 17 May 2011, at 12:05, Alex Stinson wrote: > On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 10:06 AM, Charles Matthews > wrote: > Advance publicity and reporting are of course the basics. But if you > look around the world, or listen to participants, there is the chance of > tying meetups into other things (e.g. p

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Cambridge meetup 21 May

2011-05-17 Thread Gordon Joly
On 16/05/2011 19:16, Richard Farmbrough wrote: > Depends on the ISP, and, moreover, it depends on the granularity of > information they provide. Most ADSL ISPs seem to enjoy churning IP > addresses every 24 hours (possibly small hours resets of their > exchange equipment). Many geo-attempts I

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Cambridge meetup 21 May

2011-05-17 Thread Richard Farmbrough
Indeed "often" does mean that, pretty much, however my knowledge of Virgin Media's infrastructure is limited to the half of it that was Telewest, and even there is not great. ADSL is indeed a different kettle of fish, often hitting a BT DSLAM (IIRC) at the exchange then performing some kind of

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Cambridge meetup 21 May

2011-05-17 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 17 May 2011 09:40, Michael Peel wrote: > internet access costs (but I know the London wikimeet pointedly avoids having > internet access) Pretty much all Weatherspoons have free WiFi, it's just that the one we go to in London has very poor free WiFi and we often can't get it to work. That's n

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Cambridge meetup 21 May

2011-05-17 Thread Alex Stinson
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 10:06 AM, Charles Matthews < charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com> wrote: > On 17/05/2011 09:40, Michael Peel wrote: > > Just to note: WMUK doesn't own the geonotices; any admin can change them > in the usual Wiki fashion. ;-) > > > > Also: to be honest, it's a little difficult

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Cambridge meetup 21 May

2011-05-17 Thread River Tarnell
In article <4dd16a1b.6050...@googlemail.com>, Richard Farmbrough wrote: > Depends on the ISP, and, moreover, it depends on the granularity of > information they provide. Most ADSL ISPs seem to enjoy churning IP > addresses every 24 hours (possibly small hours resets of their exchange > equip

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Cambridge meetup 21 May

2011-05-17 Thread Charles Matthews
On 17/05/2011 09:40, Michael Peel wrote: > Just to note: WMUK doesn't own the geonotices; any admin can change them in > the usual Wiki fashion. ;-) > > Also: to be honest, it's a little difficult to see how WMUK can give much > support to meetups. They're volunteer-led, advertised on-wiki, and d

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Cambridge meetup 21 May

2011-05-17 Thread Michael Peel
Just to note: WMUK doesn't own the geonotices; any admin can change them in the usual Wiki fashion. ;-) Also: to be honest, it's a little difficult to see how WMUK can give much support to meetups. They're volunteer-led, advertised on-wiki, and don't really need anything to support them to make

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Cambridge meetup 21 May

2011-05-17 Thread Chris McKenna
On Tue, 17 May 2011, Charles Matthews wrote: > > On the general situation: there are few meetups outside London in a > year. Meetups are a way of drawing those who "only" edit into other > things. I'd like to see WMUK give the running of more meetups maximum > support. > I'm fully in agreement wit

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Cambridge meetup 21 May

2011-05-17 Thread Charles Matthews
On 16/05/2011 14:39, Chris Keating wrote: > I have implemented my own suggestion and restricted the notice to a > box more defined by Lincoln and Southend - I hope that is OK with > people, I'm just a bit conscious that watchlist notices are quite > intrusive and we should be careful not to tell

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Cambridge meetup 21 May

2011-05-16 Thread Michael Peel
This is definitely something we need to start thinking about. Thus far, whenever I've posted geonotices I've gone for a large area as there haven't been many events happening in the UK - sufficiently few that I believe some wikimedians will deem it worthwhile traveling a long way for them (e.g.

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Cambridge meetup 21 May

2011-05-16 Thread Rod Ward
unton (not that we have done one there yet)? Rod From: wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediauk-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Chris Keating Sent: 16 May 2011 19:53 To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Cambridge meetup 2

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Cambridge meetup 21 May

2011-05-16 Thread Chris Keating
The reason I'm concerned is that we already use geonotices quite heavily and will probably use them even more in the future. While there is no financial cost to the geonotices (obviously) there is an opportunity cost and a cost in terms of the attention they require - we should bear this in mind. I

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Cambridge meetup 21 May

2011-05-16 Thread Richard Farmbrough
Depends on the ISP, and, moreover, it depends on the granularity of information they provide. Most ADSL ISPs seem to enjoy churning IP addresses every 24 hours (possibly small hours resets of their exchange equipment). Many geo-attempts I've seem simply use ISP's registered addresses (hence

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Cambridge meetup 21 May

2011-05-16 Thread Deryck Chan
Chris, Currently geo-targeting is only accurate to country level (due to ISPs randomly moving IPs around within a country - Magnus, is that correct?), so the only surefire way of targeting all of Cambridge is to scoop up all of the UK, unfortunately. Deryck On May 16, 2011 2:05 PM, "Chris Keating"

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Cambridge meetup 21 May

2011-05-16 Thread Chris Keating
I have implemented my own suggestion and restricted the notice to a box more defined by Lincoln and Southend - I hope that is OK with people, I'm just a bit conscious that watchlist notices are quite intrusive and we should be careful not to tell the whole of the UK about every event happening in t

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Cambridge meetup 21 May

2011-05-16 Thread Chris Keating
Can I suggest some rather tighter geotargeting for that notice - at the moment it appears to aim at every Wikipedian in a box with Belfast and Calais as its opposite corners On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Michael Peel wrote: > > On 16 May 2011, at 08:48, Charles Matthews wrote: > > > On 09

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Cambridge meetup 21 May

2011-05-16 Thread Charles Matthews
On 16/05/2011 08:55, Michael Peel wrote: > On 16 May 2011, at 08:48, Charles Matthews wrote: > >> On 09/05/2011 11:05, I wrote: >>> I have posted a page for the next Cambridge meetup: >>> >>> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Cambridge/11 >> A site notice for this event would be helpful. > I've

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Cambridge meetup 21 May

2011-05-16 Thread Michael Peel
On 16 May 2011, at 08:48, Charles Matthews wrote: > On 09/05/2011 11:05, I wrote: >> I have posted a page for the next Cambridge meetup: >> >> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Cambridge/11 > > A site notice for this event would be helpful. I've set up an en.wp geonotice for it (which appe

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Cambridge meetup 21 May

2011-05-16 Thread Charles Matthews
On 09/05/2011 11:05, I wrote: > I have posted a page for the next Cambridge meetup: > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Cambridge/11 A site notice for this event would be helpful. Charles ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org

[Wikimediauk-l] Cambridge meetup 21 May

2011-05-09 Thread Charles Matthews
I have posted a page for the next Cambridge meetup: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Cambridge/11 It is on meta by request (more sisterly). The page at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Cambridge_11 also exists but the intention is for people to sign up on the other page. Appar