r), you could use:
>
> User.ORGANISATIONS.containsAnyObjectSatisfying(new ERXTrueQualifier())
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> Best regards,
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>
> Eclipse 4.37 release is today so it was time for me to touch up the WOLips
> build.
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> project, POM-only, that defines all the stuff needed (not
> only JavaXML), and include that into our projects.
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else hit this, and, if so, what did you do about it?
2. Is anyone else living in a post-JavaXML.framework world? It smuggles in a
lot of stuff that I'd like to get rid of (e.g., Log4J 1). If so, how did you do
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h? That is, what default behaviour will you be changing, and
how astonishing will this be?
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> Anyway, that's all. Hope someone finds this useful.
Fantastic work Hugi! I will check this out.
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or app instance, we've been using (a fork of) RedisJobStore (with Amazon
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er of adding the dependency to your POM. Eyeballing the source, I assume
you need to add this to your POM:
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7.4
When using Maven, the answer to any question of the form "How do I use Foo in
my project?" is going to be "Add Foo as a dependency in your
re you saying the archetype set up a POM
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> Is Ted using an old version of the wolifecycle-maven-plugin? For the
> build.properties thing to function, it has to have a patch from a very cool
> guy named Paul Hoadley or it won't work ;) That was about 3.5 years ago
>
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n whether the org.wocommunity archetypes
currently work straight out of the box, but someone will know.) The WOCommunity
wiki seems to be down right now, but there should be a reasonably current
walk-through to get a Maven "Hello World" going.
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r-plugin:4.0.0-beta-1 seems a bit bleeding edge. In any case,
unless you've truncated that, it doesn't show the clean failing. Fix the
NSTimeZone issue above first and report back.
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Presumably that's the root issue: if it could find webobjects-bom, it probably
doesn't need the explicit versions for the framework JARs. Why can't I find
webobjects-bom?
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> Which just leaves the WOLips groovy support. My question is again, does
> anyone use this?
Just by way of a data point for your survey: never used it, no plans to.
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existing session, the failure response is returned in either case. Other than
calling session() twice, what's going on here? How are these not essentially
the same method?
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> application log. Is that possible somehow?
Will this meet your needs?
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>> has them almost ready for prime-time.
If I recall correctly, Ramsey is 'nullterminated', and he's on the Maven
Committers team:
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here a WO
> adaptor built for them that can be grabbed? Any other considerations in
> deploying to Graviton?
We use really only the T3 family—haven't looked into using Graviton. Building
the WO adaptor from source is very straightforward, though.
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nly if you need cron. We use it to periodically post some measurements to
CloudWatch in some circumstances. If not, don't worry about it.
> Is the WO apache adaptor going to work as is?
Yep.
> And wotaskd and javamonitor should be fine I guess as just java apps.
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* Looks like postfix is no longer started automatically: our script used to
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* Looks like cron is no longer provided, and we're installing cronie.
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> }
> }
> ===
>
> If you can foresee case(s) when it would fail, I'd be grateful for some
> hints, so that I test them here and update my code appropriately.
>
> Thanks again and all the best,
> OC
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the WOSession, so if any object in that graph isn't serializable, it's game
over for that session. By all means try it out, but in our experience (and
we've sunk many hours into experimentation with it), it works brilliantly right
up until it fails spec
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> Howto subscribe to
> https://lists.wocommunity.org/Lists/webobjects-dev/List.html ?
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these are usually flagged by Eclipse when you try. What type of change were you
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3. Even better, but even more complicated: set up CI/buildserver between your
Git repo and Artifactory. You push to the Git repo, then your buildserver runs
Maven to build, test and deploy to Artifactory.
All of this involves quite a bit of work, but on the upside you only need to
inve
QL, at least, forcing major
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> Does anyone use RDS on AWS?
We've been using PostgreSQL on RDS for years. Is there anything you want to
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> Hugi and I will fix the documentation on the Wiki. Going from zero to Hello
> World should take anyone about 10 minutes (modulo some artefact download
> time). Converting an existing project might take 20 minutes.
entation on the Wiki.
Going from zero to Hello World should take anyone about 10 minutes (modulo some
artefact download time). Converting an existing project might take 20 minutes.
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> out, otherwise we would need to buy a very expensive license for a macro
> plugin. Hang on.
>
> Maik
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My personal preference would be to stay with Eclipse, but that's based solely
on Eclipse being the tool I know. I would be happy to migrate to IntelliJ if
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was it that made the most recent changes to address Eclipse API changes, and
can we tempt them with money to look at this?
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> So for everybody that wishes to try maven on WO; have a look at the sample
> projects.
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(b) it could probably be better achieved by modifying (Wonder's)
EOAttribute. I stopped short of doing that only because it should probably be
implemented in a general and well-designed way. I think this should be
database-agnostic, but adding new symbolic Value Types for models is probably
to do with PostgresqlTextArray, which is a quick
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> externalType = "text[]";
> factoryMethodArgumentType = EOFactoryMethodArgumentIsNSString;
> name = newAttribute;
> valueClassName = "com.webobjects.foundation.NSArray";
> valueFactoryClassName = "de.htgreenline.divas.prototypes.Value
te that's throwing that
exception, either:
2022-11-02 05:40:58.728 WARN NSLog - A fatal exception occurred: Unable to
create a byte representation for class
"net.logicsquad.woextensions.eof.PostgresqlTextArray"
At this point I'm out
nd some helpful docker images <https://hub.docker.com/u/lexxito>.
>
> Hope, my experience will be helpful and feel free to ask some questions.
That was a great article, super-interesting. Presumably it wasn't just an
academic exercise—are you using any of these approaches in produ
realisation that
there's just no one that's going to do the work.
> Question… I thought Maven was old-hotness once Gradle stepped in? If we are
> talking about moving on, why isn’t Gradle on the table?
Again, it's just motivated manpower: who would build a Gradle plug-in?
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> What do you think?
I fully support this proposal.
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to fetching.
Intra-JVM like that is not a configuration we've used. Can you walk us through
what you've tried and why you think it's not working? There have been a few
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eclipse always worked. It
> was bringing all my old cruft along that seems to have caused the issues,
> plus a major dose of idiocy on my part.
It can be hard migrating a large project with frameworks, but it is possible.
If you want to persist, we can make it work.
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;ve been using for quite some time!
Once we get this working, you will learn to love Eclipse again. Err, maybe.
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The last 5% of the Maven journey can be frustrating, but once we get you there,
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> applications.
Brilliant.
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next.
> I would be very grateful for any pointers at all. I still would like to move
> away from ant for this build, and I need to simplify my frameworks, so moving
> to maven seems like an important step in modernising my build.
You won't regret it. Any time you s
://github.com/wocommunity/wonder/issues/304
https://wiki.wocommunity.org/display/documentation/Wonder+Logging
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> * In any case, if you're definitely using Log4J 2 (we are—I went to some
> effort months ago to set it up!), you can mitigate the issue immediately by
> re-launching all instances
ly by
re-launching all instances with "-Dlog4j2.formatMsgNoLookups=true". That will
give you time to re-build with Log4J 2.15.0.
* Finally, if you're using AWS and you're using Web Application Firewall (WAF,
which I highly recommend), you're already covered by the
AWSMa
_unique UNIQUE (bar) DEFERRABLE INITIALLY DEFERRED;");
That's PostgreSQL syntax, and you might need to adjust it for another database.
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Monitor which I guess
> is how we ensure it is available — so, that’s a normal config everyone does?
> I’m not even sure…
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Postgres 9 and 11, Wonder 7.1.
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Wonder.
So, are you still around? And if so, wanna open a PR?
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> most specific where I had a contact and a precise amount to bill.
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Henrique!
> In the end, I think the answer to "is it a bug?" is in the eye of the
> observer.
I still can't convince myself that this _isn't_ a bug.
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> What do you think?
Brilliant. I'll contact you off-list.
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nly took me 19 months to realise it, but Markus's #901 here:
https://github.com/wocommunity/wonder/pull/901/
fixes ERXStaticResourceRequestHandler so that JarResourceRequestHandler is no
longer required. Nice work Markus!
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alidation below throws exception and can’t save the data!
> Any ideas and/or work arounds?
Can you give some more detail about what you're running into? I have used
er.attachment.storageType=db, though not recently. I have never run into an
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for production and an alternate for development—something that's trivial with
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s;fi;fi;fi')
endif
1. Change those three lines in make.config.
2. Run 'make'.
3. Find mod_WebObjects.so and put it where you need it.
4. There is no 4.
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you don't need to rely on ancient package versions of JavaMonitor and
wotaskd—you can just pull them from the WOCommunity Jenkins. The rest of it is
just scripting up the stuff you'd normally do to get them running on any Unix.
Let me know
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> On 21 Aug 2020, at 16:29, Hugi Thordarson via Webobjects-dev
> mailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>>
> wrote:
>
>> @paul
>> To my knowlege, there's no secret, always just worked. And dan
re DCEVM? I seem to recall that
some level of hot code replacement used to work with a vanilla JDK—or did I
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ifact/temp/dist>/
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That URL works here as well.
What does 'java -version' show for the JDK you're using?
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nce with this or have ideas about what might be
> causing this?
This stopped working for me on OS X several years ago. What's the secret on a
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<http://www.wocommunity.org/podcasts/wowodc/2012/DynamicElements.mov>
I think I've watched this annually since 2012!
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everything to work (the docs are kind of convoluted/outdated).
>
> Perhaps I'm just stupid, but if not; I believe we would benefit greatly from
> having a functional, up-to-date step-by-step guide for how to do development
> on WOLips. Teach a man to fish a
ur account.
> Can it be kept current?
I doubt it. The community is too small and the will to do that just isn't there.
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nice if they did the same thing, or if the difference could be detected and
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with your solution to 2 above—but you'll always be talking about the same
instant in time, stored in the database as UTC.
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ot be the solution to your original problem, but if you're
expecting an NSMavenProjectBundle but getting an NSFluffyBunnyProjectBundle,
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lace? Because the Wonder archetype (and our custom
archetype that's based on it) no longer adds it because it's obsolete.
org.eclipse.m2e.core.maven2Nature
org.eclipse.jdt.core.javanature
org.objectstyle.wolips.incrementalframeworknature
So, does
ously the main change was Ralf's work to provide a
'flattenComponents' configuration option. That's a really nice feature.
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Hello,
Update: in the absence of any objections, I am going to merge #3 and #4 today.
Johann merged #5 a few days ago. I think #4 is quite uncontroversial, and #3
certainly works for me and presumably Ralf.
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and that sounds too hard, let me
know and maybe we can work out another way.
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e a large suite of existing tests using a
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Seems like a good idea to me. Do you want to at least create the PR and we can
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