The difference between the two is that in former case the output returned
by the DB is normalized (each record is a Row object) while in the
executesql case the output is not normalized (each record is a tuple
containing data in the database specific representation). It does take time
to loops
I don't care about ORM performance which is worse both in term of bare
performance and in development speed, but using large databases and doing
profiling I find that most of the time that is "spent on DB IO" is ispent
inside python code unless executesql is used. There is still a lot of room
for
It really depends on what one compares.
I do not think we ever published benchmarks claiming web2py is faster than
other frameworks. If one want speed raw WSGI (perhaps with gunicorn or
gevent) without templates and without databases beats every framework. The
more a framework does, the slower
I seem to remember vividly seeing a benchmark about 4 years ago that showed
that web2py was indeed the fastest.
Either that benchmark was misleading, or things have changed.
In either case, it would still remain important to explain to the public
the reasons for the trade-offs that were chosen. I
Web2py can not be the fastest, but it is the most simple and functional for
everyone.
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Because I think it is pointless for various reasons:
1) I am biased and people outside the community would not trust it
2) Code changes so it would become obsolete quick
3) One can produce benchmarks to produce almost any result one wants
4) People who are concerned about 2x factors in speed are n
Massimo, how about you writing an article about this subject and share with us?
So, this could be spread.
On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Massimo Di Pierro
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> I agree. I will do.
>
> On Thursday, 11 July 2013 11:51:39 UTC-5, Arnon Marcus wrote:
>>
>> I see.
>> In that case, I think it wou
I agree. I will do.
On Thursday, 11 July 2013 11:51:39 UTC-5, Arnon Marcus wrote:
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> I see.
> In that case, I think it would be advisable to note that in presentations,
> as peope might get the wrong impression...
>
> On Thursday, July 11, 2013, Massimo Di Pierro
> >
> wrote:
> > It is true bu
I see.
In that case, I think it would be advisable to note that in presentations,
as peope might get the wrong impression...
On Thursday, July 11, 2013, Massimo Di Pierro
wrote:
> It is true but not an issue. Django is faster only in hello world
examples because does not perform as many header va
It is true but not an issue. Django is faster only in hello world examples
because does not perform as many header validation/conversions as web2py
does and because you cannot turn off sessions in web2py. As soon as one
uses templates, web2py is faster. If you use databases the speed is about
t
BTW, is it really true that web2py is twice as slower than django nowadays?
How can that be?
Didn't it used to be twice as fast?
When I first evaluated it 3 years ago, it was by-far the fastest - what
changed?
You said that one of the core principles of accepting changes to web2py, is
that they s
Awesome lightning-talk...
They should have given you much more time...
I actually would have opted for a slightly different prioritization for
what to show:
1. For me, as a developer, the ticketing system is one of the most useful and
impressive piece of work in the whole of web2py - I think for
The interactive shell is this one: https://github.com/mdipierro/kryten
I posted it after PyCon Argentina.
Massimo
On Sunday, 7 July 2013 07:30:20 UTC-5, Alan Etkin wrote:
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> At EuroPycon I only used a few slides which are a subset of that talk. The
>> rest was an interactive demo.
>>
>
> Thanks
Nice talk! Worth watching even for those who are already familiar with
Web2Py.
It was interesting to hear your opinion about not so big developers
community as a major problem. But we are here to solve it, after all :)
Thanks and regards from Moldova (which is in Europe, btw :)
On Sunday, July
>
> At EuroPycon I only used a few slides which are a subset of that talk. The
> rest was an interactive demo.
>
Thanks. Much shorter than PyConUS or PyConAr talks, but still worth seeing.
I liked the interactive shell script (or wathever you've used to create the
app).
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This is the talk from PyCon Brazil:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/18065445/Tmp/PyConBr-2012.pdf
At EuroPycon I only used a few slides which are a subset of that talk. The
rest was an interactive demo.
Massimo
On Saturday, 6 July 2013 19:06:47 UTC-5, Ovidio Marinho wrote:
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> very good ,
very good ,you have the slides?
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> Thanks to the EuroPython o
Thanks to the EuroPython organizers. It was an excellent conference. I attended
at the last moment and I had the opportunity to give a talk in the open space.
Here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsLgZUGM3kg
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I may be able to make it for a day or two and if other people are going we can
organize an Open Space meeting.
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https://ep2012.europython.eu/p3/ep2012/whos-coming
is anybody planning to come?
Manuele
Euro Python
http://ep2011.europython.eu/
I cannot go but it would be nice to submit a proposal for a web2py talk. If
needed I can help with slides.
Massimo
http://ep2011.europython.eu/call-for-paper/
I cannot make it but if you want to give a talk on web2py or web2py-
related, I can help you any way you want. Just let me know.
Massimo
Massimo, any plans to attend?
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